muppets who get shirty when you wont drop the price of a car
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Maldini35 said:
Have you ever paid the full asking price for a car?
I would probably be shirty if I'd come a long way to look at the car that was priced at top dollar and the seller wouldn't do a 'token' deal for £200 off.
You say you are in no hurry to sell which is fine but you seem to have a startling lack of understanding in how to sell cars. I'm not surprised you hate selling cars, it doesn't seem you're particularly adept at it.
Hold out for the full asking price by all means (and waste a lot of your free time showing punters around the car) but don't expect much sympathy on here.
(Bet you end up taking an offer after getting bored of seeing it sitting on your drive / taking up garage space)
Yes, I have paid the asking price for a car... on several occasions. I also negotiate heavily on a car whenever I can. But if a car is advertised as "no offers" I respect that and assume that the price is the price!I would probably be shirty if I'd come a long way to look at the car that was priced at top dollar and the seller wouldn't do a 'token' deal for £200 off.
You say you are in no hurry to sell which is fine but you seem to have a startling lack of understanding in how to sell cars. I'm not surprised you hate selling cars, it doesn't seem you're particularly adept at it.
Hold out for the full asking price by all means (and waste a lot of your free time showing punters around the car) but don't expect much sympathy on here.
(Bet you end up taking an offer after getting bored of seeing it sitting on your drive / taking up garage space)
What amazes me is the total arrogance of people like you that EXPECT someone to give you a "token" £200 off.
Maldini35 said:
I don't know what you said but I'm sure you were perfectly charming.
Selling cars has, and always will be, about doing deals.
I'm flabberghasted if this surprises you.
This thread all feels a little Daily Mail:
"Outrage at reasonable offer for secondhand car shock horror"
I think its more the fact he stated no offers in the advert, and then someone got annoyed at the fact their offer was refused.Selling cars has, and always will be, about doing deals.
I'm flabberghasted if this surprises you.
This thread all feels a little Daily Mail:
"Outrage at reasonable offer for secondhand car shock horror"
If he doesn't want to sell the car a £200 less than what he values it at, it's his choice, and he hasn't complained about it not being sold yet, simply that buyers cant read.
Never understood the 'never pay the asking price' mentality. Surely a car is worth what you are willing to pay for it as a buyer? The obsession with having to achieve some discount on a price arbitrarily assigned to the car by the seller seems a bit redundant, particularly if the car is underpriced to start with for its condition (it does happen!)
Of the 18 cars I've bought I only payed asking price for one of them; of course, I'll haggle like anyone else, but there are a fair chunk that I'd have been prepared to hand over the full amount just to secure the car, as it was exactly what I wanted and 'worth' every penny of the asking price to me. FWIW, I've sold a few performance cars to fellow PHers over the years, and a couple of buyers were quite happy to give me the asking price when they viewed with no haggling attempt because the pricing was realistic to start with.
Of the 18 cars I've bought I only payed asking price for one of them; of course, I'll haggle like anyone else, but there are a fair chunk that I'd have been prepared to hand over the full amount just to secure the car, as it was exactly what I wanted and 'worth' every penny of the asking price to me. FWIW, I've sold a few performance cars to fellow PHers over the years, and a couple of buyers were quite happy to give me the asking price when they viewed with no haggling attempt because the pricing was realistic to start with.
I once sold a car with "No Offers" as that is exactly the amount that was outstanding to clear the finance on it - and I got the amount advertised with no haggling - BUT, you can alway raise the price so the buyer feels good about getting a "deal" and you get what you want - everyones a winner! 
I bought another one recently (10 yr old Merc SLK) - was advertised on ebay but with a phone number which was handy. looking thro the history it had been thro twice already and was on it's third listing each previous time not making the reserve
I phoned the guy up asked about the car (things I wanted to know not covered by the advert) he was open and honest in his replies (even the tricky questions like any accident damage) he told me what the reserve was as the latest auction was still running so I was as honest and I said it was 100 miles away and the reserve was £750 above my budget. I asked if I would be wasting both our time if I came and viewed it bearing in mind I would need him to move on the price in order to secure a sale.
He said happy for me to view and he was prepared to move on the asking price (but wouldn't be giving it away) but he was pretty fed up with ebayers offering daft money for it (ie £1500 below the reserve) and would be much happier negotiating with a real person who had a genuine interest in buying a one owner car with good history in very good condition for it's age.
Saw the car liked it everything he said checked out and we got to the price stage and it was a very easy deal - he moved a fair way I spent a little bit more than my max but it was a pleasant and easy conversation - I wasn't going to let the car go anyway for £250 more as it was the best one I'd seen.
I've not regretted it and see nothing wrong in the whole process
To the OP
If you'd had a conversation with the person who got the hump cos you wouldn't drop you didn't make it clear enough that you weren't open to offers - if the seller of the SLK had told me he wouldn't shift on the price I wouldn't have viewed it as it was too much over my budget.
I phoned the guy up asked about the car (things I wanted to know not covered by the advert) he was open and honest in his replies (even the tricky questions like any accident damage) he told me what the reserve was as the latest auction was still running so I was as honest and I said it was 100 miles away and the reserve was £750 above my budget. I asked if I would be wasting both our time if I came and viewed it bearing in mind I would need him to move on the price in order to secure a sale.
He said happy for me to view and he was prepared to move on the asking price (but wouldn't be giving it away) but he was pretty fed up with ebayers offering daft money for it (ie £1500 below the reserve) and would be much happier negotiating with a real person who had a genuine interest in buying a one owner car with good history in very good condition for it's age.
Saw the car liked it everything he said checked out and we got to the price stage and it was a very easy deal - he moved a fair way I spent a little bit more than my max but it was a pleasant and easy conversation - I wasn't going to let the car go anyway for £250 more as it was the best one I'd seen.
I've not regretted it and see nothing wrong in the whole process
To the OP
If you'd had a conversation with the person who got the hump cos you wouldn't drop you didn't make it clear enough that you weren't open to offers - if the seller of the SLK had told me he wouldn't shift on the price I wouldn't have viewed it as it was too much over my budget.
If a seller such as the OP states "No offers" and someone is too stupid to understand then that's their problem. It matters not a jot how far they've come or wheteher they always haggle. I'd class them with the 'I never pay the asking price' brigade. So blinkered to thinking they'd be a lesser person for paying the asking price (even if it's reasonable) they repeat it like a special needs kid undertaking a simple task. "Unzip first, then piss....unzip first, then piss...unzip f........doh!"
I paid full asking price for my last car because it was several thousand pounds below value. Yes, the owner was desperate but I also knew there were three dead cert buyers behind me and if I didn't take it before they arrived it would have turned into an auction. According to the logic of some here though I should still have offered less
I paid full asking price for my last car because it was several thousand pounds below value. Yes, the owner was desperate but I also knew there were three dead cert buyers behind me and if I didn't take it before they arrived it would have turned into an auction. According to the logic of some here though I should still have offered less
grumbledoak said:
It's not clear how much the asking price was, so we cannot really tell who was being silly.
I once bought a new car for £16k. The nearest dealership wanted £16,016 and wouldn't budge. I simply went to a more sensible vendor.
Bet it cost you more than £16 in petrol to get there I once bought a new car for £16k. The nearest dealership wanted £16,016 and wouldn't budge. I simply went to a more sensible vendor.
Edited by Flintstone on Tuesday 10th May 17:06
grumbledoak said:
It's not clear how much the asking price was, so we cannot really tell who was being silly.
I once bought a new car for £16k. The nearest dealership wanted £16,016 and wouldn't budge. I simply went to a more sensible vendor.
I bought a 9 year old one (direct from the manufacturer (ish)) for a 5 figure sum in a sealed bid auction - I didn't get to haggle on that one and bidding blind is a heck of a thing to do when you have no idea what value other may place on the car.I once bought a new car for £16k. The nearest dealership wanted £16,016 and wouldn't budge. I simply went to a more sensible vendor.
Tyre Smoke said:
Has anyone ascertained the car in question and the asking price?
No, and I wont be disclosing it on here! For one, the moderators will see it as me trying to get exposure on here on a car for sale and close the thread... And can you imagine how this thread would go if I told you what it was!!!
Lets just say I have had it a long long time... and its appreciating, not depreciating
buzzer said:
No, and I wont be disclosing it on here! For one, the moderators will see it as me trying to get exposure on here on a car for sale and close the thread...
And can you imagine how this thread would go if I told you what it was!!!
Lets just say I have had it a long long time... and its appreciating, not depreciating
And can you imagine how this thread would go if I told you what it was!!!
Lets just say I have had it a long long time... and its appreciating, not depreciating
If its the 182 Clio I'm presuming your last comment was tongue in cheek ????
Not really.
There's plenty of 'have I priced this right?' threads.
It seems to me that you are being a bit 'up yourself' over this.
Most people put a car up for sale because they want to sell it. Anything that can be considered a 'major' purchase is usually subject to an offer or haggling if you prefer.
Either you want to sell the car or you don't. If you want to sell it, then be prepared for offers - which purchasers will deem to be fair, to be made. Don't come on here expecting the vast majority to side with you.
If you make it clear, politely to any potential purchaser that you will not haggle and the ticket price is the price no matter what, expect your viewings to drop.
Why not at least tell us what you are selling? Is it a case you need a secret handshake before you will divulge anything?
There's plenty of 'have I priced this right?' threads.
It seems to me that you are being a bit 'up yourself' over this.
Most people put a car up for sale because they want to sell it. Anything that can be considered a 'major' purchase is usually subject to an offer or haggling if you prefer.
Either you want to sell the car or you don't. If you want to sell it, then be prepared for offers - which purchasers will deem to be fair, to be made. Don't come on here expecting the vast majority to side with you.
If you make it clear, politely to any potential purchaser that you will not haggle and the ticket price is the price no matter what, expect your viewings to drop.
Why not at least tell us what you are selling? Is it a case you need a secret handshake before you will divulge anything?
OP I see where your coming from. ive done the same myself. I was selling an Almera 2.2DCI last year. I said Buy it now £2000 on ebay and started bidding at £1800.
I had a fella drive 200 miles to see it. he offered £1800 I turned it down, I said £2000 buy it now or no sale. Take the risk you may get it for £1800, it was worth about £2300+ so i priced it cheap anyway.
He left, and a girl came around later the same day, gave me £2000 and drove away.
He rang that night and said he would have it at £2000, I told him it was too late and he went mental.
At the end of the day he wanted money off, and completely overlooked the fact i priced it cheap anyway.
Some people
I had a fella drive 200 miles to see it. he offered £1800 I turned it down, I said £2000 buy it now or no sale. Take the risk you may get it for £1800, it was worth about £2300+ so i priced it cheap anyway.
He left, and a girl came around later the same day, gave me £2000 and drove away.
He rang that night and said he would have it at £2000, I told him it was too late and he went mental.
At the end of the day he wanted money off, and completely overlooked the fact i priced it cheap anyway.
Some people
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