RE: Kia announces a hot hatch
Discussion
R32UK said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
The guy who owns the Kia/Mazda/Chrysler/ franchises round our way bought the reg K1 AGT many years ago for this very eventuality.
He put it on a brand new Mazda RX7 back in the day, Mazda certainly weren't very happy when they saw it & made him take it off!
made him take it off?? He put it on a brand new Mazda RX7 back in the day, Mazda certainly weren't very happy when they saw it & made him take it off!
Kia's CEO made a habit of touring dealerships on the other side of the world in the mid-90sloudlashadjuster said:
Re the car, I've driven the standard Cee'd and Kia will have to do a lot of polishing to make this particular turd into a class leader.
Interesting view, as I found the 1.6 CRDi I drove to be just like every other modern hatchback. Competent but unremittingly dull. Certainly nothing offensive stood out dynamically. It rode OK, it turned in well, it all felt very safe and unflappable when pushed. There wasn't any feel through the steering. In other words, it was just like a cooking Focus/Astra/Golf.Given more power and a sharper setup, it stands as much chance as anything else.
the stigs dad said:
Not for me thanks. But the extra competition can only be a good thing to keep the established marques on their toes. A 250 bhp rwd or 4wd Kia hot hatch would be interesting though!
Same company:
Obviously not a hatch, but they do have a platform if they wanted to do it.
Agoogy said:
Codswallop said:
Given the reception that the Hyundai Veloster Turbo recieved, I am doubtful it will be a good steer either seeing as they likely share many components.
CAR thought it a brilliant 'steer'.It will use the same engione and but will provide more numbers.
I'm looking forward to it...cartoon sketch aside, it will look really good in the flesh.
The Veloster Turbo looked quite good in a cartoonish way, no doubt the Kia will look good as well.
Limpet said:
Interesting view, as I found the 1.6 CRDi I drove to be just like every other modern hatchback. Competent but unremittingly dull. Certainly nothing offensive stood out dynamically. It rode OK, it turned in well, it all felt very safe and unflappable when pushed. There wasn't any feel through the steering. In other words, it was just like a cooking Focus/Astra/Golf.
Given more power and a sharper setup, it stands as much chance as anything else.
I find the Focus much more involving, and even *gasp* the Astra is OK nowadays. The Golf's steering is just leaden in the way that only VW/Audi seem to be able to manage, but the Kia was just...distant? Too many echoes of 90s Korean metal in the experience.Given more power and a sharper setup, it stands as much chance as anything else.
Or maybe just my prejudice!
Limpet said:
loudlashadjuster said:
Re the car, I've driven the standard Cee'd and Kia will have to do a lot of polishing to make this particular turd into a class leader.
Interesting view, as I found the 1.6 CRDi I drove to be just like every other modern hatchback. Competent but unremittingly dull. Certainly nothing offensive stood out dynamically. It rode OK, it turned in well, it all felt very safe and unflappable when pushed. There wasn't any feel through the steering. In other words, it was just like a cooking Focus/Astra/Golf.Given more power and a sharper setup, it stands as much chance as anything else.
Astra? Focus? Golf? Octavia? Megane? Leon? Their base cars are all far less impressive than their top of the range versions.
What the hell is that Tonka on speed, if the wheels were any bigger you could dispose of the bodywork and ride in the reccess of each wheel, at least you wouldn't have to worry about how many doors it had.
I reckon that after a couple of ltrs of famous Grouse it might look as atractive and moder as a mk1 landrover,
I reckon that after a couple of ltrs of famous Grouse it might look as atractive and moder as a mk1 landrover,
Codswallop said:
Worst rendering ever. Given the reception that the Hyundai Veloster Turbo recieved, I am doubtful it will be a good steer either seeing as they likely share many components.
Veloster is based on the Venga/ix20 platform - which won't help its cause... cee'd shares with i30.Mojocvh said:
Boy at work has an astra "Nuremberg" edition, quite a tidy car with plenty of "go" when you need it.
Or it did have.
Dealer maintained from new, all servicing and other work receipted and book stamped.
40,000m and turbo blown, due to a common failure as it's mounted integrally in the manifolds, he was wanting a good will gesture from Vauxhall to cover some of the cost-NO CHANCE.
Its a nurburgring edition and 5 years old, the warranty ran out 2 years ago, why should Vx contribute ?Or it did have.
Dealer maintained from new, all servicing and other work receipted and book stamped.
40,000m and turbo blown, due to a common failure as it's mounted integrally in the manifolds, he was wanting a good will gesture from Vauxhall to cover some of the cost-NO CHANCE.
Its not really a common failure, turbos wear out, its a fact of life.
Certainly nothing to do with the integrated manifold anyway.
More likely due to the treatment it gets, poor treatment causes oil seal failure.
Anyway, the turbos are dirt cheap compared to what they used to be. He should take the chance to go to someone like turbo dynamics who can build a stronger/upgraded unit.
Far as the Kia goes, I see increasing numbers of them around, quite often driven by oldies. This could be a decent alternative to a golf gti though.
The optima doesn't look too bad either.
Edited by Crafty_ on Wednesday 28th November 20:47
I cant help feeling that if they can make it handle as well as the other rivals, and keep the stats the same speed wose, they could kill the ford/vw/astra, with that beloved thing of road testers, steering feel.
It seems every modern hatch apart from the Renaults seem to lack it, so heres a tip Kia, get that bit right and you are in for a winner...
It seems every modern hatch apart from the Renaults seem to lack it, so heres a tip Kia, get that bit right and you are in for a winner...
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