RE: SOTW: Saab 9-5 Aero HOT
Discussion
mikeyr said:
Interesting, never had any desire to own a Saab before but that seems a bargain way to cruise around. Fuel consumption poor I guess?
BTW, most amusing SOTW article for some time, normally flick through and then read advert but genuinely had my attention the whole way through. Good article that man!
For the manual at least I'm sorry to say that they can be surprisingly economical BTW, most amusing SOTW article for some time, normally flick through and then read advert but genuinely had my attention the whole way through. Good article that man!
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Mr E said:
That is a very good price. We paid more than twice that for a similar vintage estate (few less miles) a year ago...
Yeah, same here. Still, nevermind. It's all about 3rd gear in these. Will happily pull from 40 to 90 on the slip roads at a very nice rate. Never fails to make me grin.
Had the CPS fail on mine causing start issues and also a tube pop off the manifold tree causing loss of boost. Other than that its been fairly good.
And all the while the great unwashed will be spanking themselves into a frenzy bidding like crazy on a 1999, worn smooth, 180k mile, lightly bazzed Golf Mk4 tdi because it has the holy grail of a rattly diesel lump, which will sell for twice what this does.
That advert is shed perfection, honest and making all the right noises about maintenance, that is the kind of person to buy a car off, not like the girl at work whose KA is dying due to a HG fail so she has advertised it as fine and sold it for £800
That advert is shed perfection, honest and making all the right noises about maintenance, that is the kind of person to buy a car off, not like the girl at work whose KA is dying due to a HG fail so she has advertised it as fine and sold it for £800
nosuchuser said:
Yeah, same here. Still, nevermind.
It's all about 3rd gear in these. Will happily pull from 40 to 90 on the slip roads at a very nice rate. Never fails to make me grin.
Had the CPS fail on mine causing start issues and also a tube pop off the manifold tree causing loss of boost. Other than that its been fairly good.
We've also had a CPS, a temperature sensor (£30) and some minor weirdness with the xenons.It's all about 3rd gear in these. Will happily pull from 40 to 90 on the slip roads at a very nice rate. Never fails to make me grin.
Had the CPS fail on mine causing start issues and also a tube pop off the manifold tree causing loss of boost. Other than that its been fairly good.
It's been a bloody good car.
I had one of these ! Almost identical to this one.
A perfect station carpark, motorway run, airport carpark car and general daily snotter.
It is lovely to drive, particularly as an auto.
Compared to even modern metal, such as E class Mercs or BMW 5 series, it is still a very comfortable, quiet and pleasant car to travel in. Heated seats, leather, aircon and a decent stereo. And the value of the car is roughly equal to the price of a couple of major services of a newer car.
This is the perfect example of shed motoring.
The 9-5 is prone to the occasional electrical brain fart and the dashboard will throw some warnings at you, telling you to stop the car or check the brakes. Disconnecting and reconnecting the battery resets everything and the bogus warning lights all go out ! It happens about 3-4 times a year. Other than that, the car was utterly reliable over 30,000 miles from 80K, when I got it, to 110k, when I sold it.
It is also surprisingly fast. It makes excellent progress indeed.
And it is also completely invisible, attracts no attention or says anything about the driver. I like that. Not having to worry where you park is very liberating.
I want to get another one.
A perfect station carpark, motorway run, airport carpark car and general daily snotter.
It is lovely to drive, particularly as an auto.
Compared to even modern metal, such as E class Mercs or BMW 5 series, it is still a very comfortable, quiet and pleasant car to travel in. Heated seats, leather, aircon and a decent stereo. And the value of the car is roughly equal to the price of a couple of major services of a newer car.
This is the perfect example of shed motoring.
The 9-5 is prone to the occasional electrical brain fart and the dashboard will throw some warnings at you, telling you to stop the car or check the brakes. Disconnecting and reconnecting the battery resets everything and the bogus warning lights all go out ! It happens about 3-4 times a year. Other than that, the car was utterly reliable over 30,000 miles from 80K, when I got it, to 110k, when I sold it.
It is also surprisingly fast. It makes excellent progress indeed.
And it is also completely invisible, attracts no attention or says anything about the driver. I like that. Not having to worry where you park is very liberating.
I want to get another one.
I loved my old 9-5 Aeros! Apart from the one that blew up in France... top shed though, although the auto 'box does kill them a bit. My second was a manual and so much better.
toppstuff said:
And it is also completely invisible, attracts no attention or says anything about the driver. I like that. Not having to worry where you park is very liberating.
Agree with this, I now have an S2000 which is far more shouty and miss the inconspicuousness of the Aero. Rollcage said:
For the manual at least I'm sorry to say that they can be surprisingly economical
40mog achievabke with care.
Surprised by that but guess the auto box bites away a decent chunk of that fuel sipping parsimony! 40mog achievabke with care.
Are the estate versions more expensive? Always thought the convertibles look like a cheap way to get a family sized motor with soft top fun.
Saabs do seem to be good value at the moment, I recently bought a 2007 9-5 estate (diesel unfortunately, but at the price I wasn't too worried...) for £3k with a full main dealer history including recent EGR and DMF replacement as well as bushes and discs, so we're set for a good few miles without the usual issues that occur on 5 year old diesels.
As it's a second car, mainly used for long motorway journeys visiting friends and family down south and the odd tow of the race car I'm hoping it's going to be with us a while, it should only do about 4k a year.
I have to say though, having owned a 9000 in the past, build quality is nowhere near what it was, the penny-pinching GM era does show on this car, although the ride and comfort are the same, but the car feels altogether less solid than it's predecessor and there were a few rust patches on the inside of the tailgate due to a poorly painted panel.
Overall though, it's a cheap enough car not to worry too much, new enough to be comfortable and have the gadgets (ipod socket for instance) and roomy enough to take all the luggage for a week away or spares for the race car - the equivalent 5 series would have been almost 3 times the price.
As it's a second car, mainly used for long motorway journeys visiting friends and family down south and the odd tow of the race car I'm hoping it's going to be with us a while, it should only do about 4k a year.
I have to say though, having owned a 9000 in the past, build quality is nowhere near what it was, the penny-pinching GM era does show on this car, although the ride and comfort are the same, but the car feels altogether less solid than it's predecessor and there were a few rust patches on the inside of the tailgate due to a poorly painted panel.
Overall though, it's a cheap enough car not to worry too much, new enough to be comfortable and have the gadgets (ipod socket for instance) and roomy enough to take all the luggage for a week away or spares for the race car - the equivalent 5 series would have been almost 3 times the price.
I'm probably going to get shot as I just can't fall in love with the Saabs. I have driven plenty of different models and where they are fine in a straight line and I have to agree with a previous comment about how comfy the seats are but the rest of the package is so below par.
The ride and handling are appalling and genuinely scary down twisty back roads, the highest mileage example of either 93/95 iv'e driven had 70k on the clock and all of them had missing trim, rattled, squeaked and felt like a poor man's product. The ergonomics and quality of the interior I feel is particularly poor as well.
They are truly rapid and on a run the auto's are actually alright on fuel but town work really shows up the old design Tq Convertor. Even driving a 170bhp 2t auto on a run would creep towards 40mpg but through a bit of town work in and you'll be struggling for mid 20s overall.
The ride and handling are appalling and genuinely scary down twisty back roads, the highest mileage example of either 93/95 iv'e driven had 70k on the clock and all of them had missing trim, rattled, squeaked and felt like a poor man's product. The ergonomics and quality of the interior I feel is particularly poor as well.
They are truly rapid and on a run the auto's are actually alright on fuel but town work really shows up the old design Tq Convertor. Even driving a 170bhp 2t auto on a run would creep towards 40mpg but through a bit of town work in and you'll be struggling for mid 20s overall.
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