RE: TVR's new owner: PH Meets
Discussion
It will be interesting to see how this develops over the coming weeks and months and I wish the new owners the best of British luck, I think they will need that together with support and a clear vision. Jaguar have re-invented themselves and now has a superb range of cars and it would be nice, though of course on a much smaller and less cash rich scale to see TVR start to re-emerge but for the long term with quality products.
I think a new design with all the old genes but with a clear focus on quality would be the right step. A rebuilt former car with a new engine is to me not a move forward.
I think a new design with all the old genes but with a clear focus on quality would be the right step. A rebuilt former car with a new engine is to me not a move forward.
Bravo! Very good opening statement. He's talking to the fans and new outlets alike. He's showing that he has paid attention (note the comment on the 40+ pages discussion). And, he's level headed about it all.
Good business sense and good handling of the public. Excellent building blocks. Now there needs to be a bit of quiet time while they go beaver away at some designs.
Good business sense and good handling of the public. Excellent building blocks. Now there needs to be a bit of quiet time while they go beaver away at some designs.
Now that's a man i'd like to do business with.
Sod the touchy feely don't-want-to-upset-anyone-by-saying-the-wrong-thing crap that most car makers spout out. Straight to the point, no gumpf. I can't imagine many power point presentations will take place at TVR now.
Let's knuckle down and crack out a TVR for the future.
I can't wait to see how this develops.
Sod the touchy feely don't-want-to-upset-anyone-by-saying-the-wrong-thing crap that most car makers spout out. Straight to the point, no gumpf. I can't imagine many power point presentations will take place at TVR now.
Let's knuckle down and crack out a TVR for the future.
I can't wait to see how this develops.
Tyre Smoke said:
Sounds (from that piece) like an arrogant w@nker. A rich one, obviously, but one nevertheless.
Still, wait and see.
Would you rather the company in the hands of something like Ed Milliband? Still, wait and see.
I thought he sounded like a bloke making a very clear initial statement that he wasn't interested in the fancying about of a bunch of old women the last few years and was going to take it forward how he felt best not the old lot.
He seemed to allude to styling being important as well as Englishness as far as any cars are concerned and not nostalgic so certainly have the impression of wanting a modern interpretation that appeals to people today rather than yesterday.
I guess we just have to wait to learn which of those camps we all fall into and whether we are mortally offended, depressed but supportive or over the moon.
forzaminardi said:
A good first impression there - he appears straightforward, confident but modest and acknowledges that he'll be judged on what he does, not on what he says.
Judgement 1 - company established with about £1M - not enough to design/patent and type-approve a new type of headlight toast boy said:
Not going to be getting my hopes up too much just yet but it seems like he's got the right idea. Seems pretty pragmatic, and staying away from making bold statements and unfulfillable promises. I wish him luck!
Indeed. Came across very well I thought. Certainly a world away from the bombastic "pie in the sky" declarations Smolensky made when he took the helm.
Whilst i wish them the best of luck (and best of British) with re-inventing TVR, i simply can't see how in 2013, a small company with limited investment can even start to make a "real world" car that compete's with the big players? I wish i could, but i can't. There are two markets that work in that category:
1) Ultra performance, ultra basic (the Caterham / Atom market.) Make it go like stink, don't fit anything that doens't make it go fast. Costs less than £40k
2) The "Unique Hypercar" market: The 'egg, Noble M600 etc. You can afford a bit more tech in the car, but you're only going to sell a handful, and they cost lots (>£200k). Effectively brought by customers "just to be different" from the Lambo/Ferrari owners (they'll have a couple of those in their collection already)
Unfortunately, between those extremes lies a very difficult, and crowded, market place. The mainstream cars are now so fast that to be significantly "faster" is actually really hard, so you don't have that pure speed USP anymore. And the mainstream cars come with such a wide capability base (ABS/DSC/NAV/A/C/warranty/resale etc) that you can't compete with those either.
So, in summary, Tricky, very Tricky ;-)
1) Ultra performance, ultra basic (the Caterham / Atom market.) Make it go like stink, don't fit anything that doens't make it go fast. Costs less than £40k
2) The "Unique Hypercar" market: The 'egg, Noble M600 etc. You can afford a bit more tech in the car, but you're only going to sell a handful, and they cost lots (>£200k). Effectively brought by customers "just to be different" from the Lambo/Ferrari owners (they'll have a couple of those in their collection already)
Unfortunately, between those extremes lies a very difficult, and crowded, market place. The mainstream cars are now so fast that to be significantly "faster" is actually really hard, so you don't have that pure speed USP anymore. And the mainstream cars come with such a wide capability base (ABS/DSC/NAV/A/C/warranty/resale etc) that you can't compete with those either.
So, in summary, Tricky, very Tricky ;-)
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