Bikes are cool until.....

Bikes are cool until.....

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mp3manager

4,254 posts

198 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
mp3manager said:
Biker in being a dick shocka!
He was undoubtedly riding like a cock, but one incident does not mean all bikers ride that that. I've seen many DC5s being driven extremely badly, are all DC5 owners dicks?
Where did I say all bikers ride like that? I don't give a monkeys about other DC5 owners who drive badly, as it's got sod all to do with me.

mp3manager said:
No wonder they're called future organ donors.
Mr2Mike said:
They are only called that by cocks.
A bit touchy today? Did you not get any last night?

Edited by mp3manager on Sunday 4th August 12:23

MrB1obby

771 posts

152 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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g3org3y said:
Got off lightly, could have been a lot worse. Quite simply, was going too quick without looking far enough ahead.

What are the braking capabilities of a bike like? I know that when they do superbike vs supercar comparisons on the track, the bike gets spanked entering the corners under braking.
As far as I remember, a top Superbike can brake similar to a Civic Type R. The big sports tourers are slightly better though because of their wheelbase, I think the best is about 40 metres from 70mph.



Baz Tench

5,648 posts

192 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Strange one that! He was obviously riding badly. If that was me, I wouldn't post it on the bloody net!

I'd just have a quiet word with myself and move on.

Mastodon2

13,845 posts

167 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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He either looked ahead and thought he was going to make the gap and filter at speed between the two lorries or he simply wasn't looking and planning ahead. If you are going to weave through traffic at speed you better make sure you don't come a cropper in a fashion like this guy or you'll just look a plank. The people coming to see him sound concerned, but if I was a witness to that accident I'd want to make sure the guy was ok but I'd find it hard to feel sympathy for him. The only people I'd feel sorry for would be the owners of the lorries that could have been damaged. Hopefully they can claim from his insurance for any damage caused.

airportparking

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1,314 posts

164 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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I live in London and yes 99% of bikers ARE morons like this guy, and it's usually the innocent driver who gets the flak

Edited by airportparking on Sunday 4th August 13:28

soad

32,960 posts

178 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Stupid bd.

Voldemort

6,239 posts

280 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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dapearson said:
Bikes are cool. Full stop.
Not in the rain, they're not.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Voldemort said:
dapearson said:
Bikes are cool. Full stop.
Not in the rain, they're not.
they're very cool, then

fking freezing in fact (if you're not waring anything waterproof)

airportparking

Original Poster:

1,314 posts

164 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Mastodon2 said:
Hopefully they can claim from his insurance for any damage caused.
Highly UNLIKELY

xRIEx

8,180 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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airportparking said:
Mastodon2 said:
Hopefully they can claim from his insurance for any damage caused.
Highly UNLIKELY
Is that based on your extensive insurance experience?

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

134 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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He probably didn't realise how slowly the two lorries were travelling.

What mere mortals don't realise is how difficult it is to judge the speed of other vehicles whilst travelling at warp speed. A good example of this is when on single carriageways it can be difficult to judge from a distance is whether the vehicle on your side of the road coming at you at over 100mph is travelling in the same direction as you or oncoming traffic and overtaking. I saw the light and slowed right down. Have a feeling I wouldn't be here otherwise.

Mastodon2

13,845 posts

167 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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airportparking said:
Highly UNLIKELY
Between hitting stationary vehicles, multiple witnesses in the cars behind the incident and his footage being freely available on the net, I can't see how he could try and spin this to not be completely his own stupid fault.

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

134 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Mastodon2 said:
airportparking said:
Highly UNLIKELY
Between hitting stationary vehicles, multiple witnesses in the cars behind the incident and his footage being freely available on the net, I can't see how he could try and spin this to not be completely his own stupid fault.
Lorries didn't even realise they were in an RTA and drive off. Drivers reach destination see damage and wonder WTF is the only way I can see the damage to the trucks not being dealt with by biker's insurance.

Benj1984

173 posts

133 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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airportparking said:
I live in London and yes 99% of bikers ARE morons like this guy, and it's usually the innocent driver who gets the flak

Edited by airportparking on Sunday 4th August 13:28
I also live in London. You are getting bikers mixed up with moped riders and pizza delivery boys, who do a days CBT and that's enough to get them on the road. If you've ever done a CBT you'll realise that it is completely mental that its all you need to get on a bike that if you're over 17, can be a 125 and perfectly capable of exceeding the national speed limit! That's another discussion, but frankly idiots in London aren't bikers, they are moped riders. Night and day between the two.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

150 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Benj1984 said:
If you've ever done a CBT you'll realise that it is completely mental that its all you need to get on a bike that if you're over 17, can be a 125 and perfectly capable of exceeding the national speed limit!
"Perfectly capable" is a bit strong - 11kW/14.75bhp might get you to 70mph.

RWD cossie wil

4,324 posts

175 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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The problem with a bike is that it amplifies bad driving by a far higher factor than a car... There are just as many total cocks driving cars, if not millions more! However, make a mistake on a bike & generally you will be on your arse sliding down the road, in a car you might bash a kerb, skid or spin etc but generally be able to drive off unharmed, albeit with your tail between your legs.....

I ride a bike & love it, but you have to be SO careful compared to driving a car as you WILL come off worse in any collision, but I still think proper bike training makes you a far better car driver just from the much better observation you develop.

Guy in the video is a classic example of his own bad riding ending up as an accident, at speed undertakes & not looking far enough ahead show that he was at the limit of his mental capacity & riding too fast for what he could process IMHO.

Benj1984

173 posts

133 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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xRIEx said:
Benj1984 said:
If you've ever done a CBT you'll realise that it is completely mental that its all you need to get on a bike that if you're over 17, can be a 125 and perfectly capable of exceeding the national speed limit!
"Perfectly capable" is a bit strong - 11kW/14.75bhp might get you to 70mph.
I have ridden at 70 on a 125, but wasn't really the point I was making. Even if they did 50-60, it's still the speed limits on most A-roads, so what's the difference in doing 60 on a CBR125 to doing 60 on an R1? I find it a bit crazy how you can ride 2 vehicles that both will do the maximum speed limit in the UK. But one of them you just need to ride around some cones in a car park, and ride along a road with an instructor for an hour and your good to go! That's why ped riders have no idea most of the time.

I have to do the same test to drive a smart car, as I do to drive a Bugatti veron. Yet, on a vehicle that is a lot more dangerous when it goes wrong you can just jump on and cause mayhem!

CBR JGWRR

6,547 posts

151 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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xRIEx said:
Benj1984 said:
If you've ever done a CBT you'll realise that it is completely mental that its all you need to get on a bike that if you're over 17, can be a 125 and perfectly capable of exceeding the national speed limit!
"Perfectly capable" is a bit strong - 11kW/14.75bhp might get you to 70mph.
Very strong that. Even the "sports" 125s tucked in, throttle pinned struggle north of 70 indicated, let alone a real 70 mph... A motorway speeding ticket on a four stroke is unheard of.

CBR JGWRR

6,547 posts

151 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Benj1984 said:
so what's the difference in doing 60 on a CBR125 to doing 60 on an R1?
One's idling at around 2 grand rpm at almost closed throttle, the other is semi tucked in at 8 thou rpm in top with throttle to the stop.

Benj1984

173 posts

133 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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CBR JGWRR said:
xRIEx said:
Benj1984 said:
If you've ever done a CBT you'll realise that it is completely mental that its all you need to get on a bike that if you're over 17, can be a 125 and perfectly capable of exceeding the national speed limit!
"Perfectly capable" is a bit strong - 11kW/14.75bhp might get you to 70mph.
Very strong that. Even the "sports" 125s tucked in, throttle pinned struggle north of 70 indicated, let alone a real 70 mph... A motorway speeding ticket on a four stroke is unheard of.
What's the type of engine got to do with it. By the way, 4 stroke is what everyone modern super bike is, and also what every car is bar a few rare models in history.

Also, 2 strokes can be crazy fast. All the old GP500 bikes where 2 strokes and brutal.