As a PHer do you find yourself less excited by Supercars and such like....
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Seeing a supercar or two at an event is no big deal nowadays. It is expected: so many are built these days that they are the norm.
However, encountering one by chance on the open road (not trundling through central London!) is much more of a thrill. Those are the memories that stay with you. In my case a 288GTO on the M1 in about 1995.
However, encountering one by chance on the open road (not trundling through central London!) is much more of a thrill. Those are the memories that stay with you. In my case a 288GTO on the M1 in about 1995.
I went to Geneva last year and seen all the Hyper/Supercars, lots looked very interesting but nothing blew me away, then I seen a car that I don't even like in photographs and it stopped me dead, my other half said I simply stopped walking and my mouth opened as it came it to view. I was utterly fascinated by it, the car was this:
I don't know what it was but I found it achingly beautiful (and this is coming from someone who thought he preferred the Zonda!!).
I don't know what it was but I found it achingly beautiful (and this is coming from someone who thought he preferred the Zonda!!).
LotusOmega375D said:
Seeing a supercar or two at an event is no big deal nowadays. It is expected: so many are built these days that they are the norm.
However, encountering one by chance on the open road (not trundling through central London!) is much more of a thrill. Those are the memories that stay with you. In my case a 288GTO on the M1 in about 1995.
when I see a supercar on the road , my heart skips a beat .at shows and meets , whilst the same cars are nice to see I pretty much expect to see them so not such a big deal .However, encountering one by chance on the open road (not trundling through central London!) is much more of a thrill. Those are the memories that stay with you. In my case a 288GTO on the M1 in about 1995.
Its possible that there are such a large number of exotics on our roads now, we don't really take as much notice of them now, than we once might have.
I can remember seeing my first GT40 on public roads in Barkingside in Essex, when the majority of cars were Morris 1100`s or ford Anglia`s and even E-Types and Healy 3000 were relatively exotic and it was locked in my memory forever. But at this years Goodwood Revival there were 20 of them going around the track, and after a while it actually got a bit boring watching GT40 after GT40 chasing each other around the track. Also with one make racing it is as predictable as watching sinking of the Titanic films. Guess what? it Sunk!. Guess what car won the GT40 race????? I now see so many Bentley coupes knocking around I could swear I was footballers territory. Common as muck!!!
I can remember seeing my first GT40 on public roads in Barkingside in Essex, when the majority of cars were Morris 1100`s or ford Anglia`s and even E-Types and Healy 3000 were relatively exotic and it was locked in my memory forever. But at this years Goodwood Revival there were 20 of them going around the track, and after a while it actually got a bit boring watching GT40 after GT40 chasing each other around the track. Also with one make racing it is as predictable as watching sinking of the Titanic films. Guess what? it Sunk!. Guess what car won the GT40 race????? I now see so many Bentley coupes knocking around I could swear I was footballers territory. Common as muck!!!
I think supercars are far more common so less surprising.
I recall back in the 70s having my jaw clang open at the sight of a droop-snoot Firenza and a Citroen SM and a Ferrari Dino. A 911 was an event back then.
Now, even a Gallardo doesn't really excite.
That said, my son is 7 and he gets excited when he sees Ferraris and Lambos so I think it's an age not a petrolhead issue.
I recall back in the 70s having my jaw clang open at the sight of a droop-snoot Firenza and a Citroen SM and a Ferrari Dino. A 911 was an event back then.
Now, even a Gallardo doesn't really excite.
That said, my son is 7 and he gets excited when he sees Ferraris and Lambos so I think it's an age not a petrolhead issue.
I'm not interested in them as they have absolutely no relevance to my life.
Whilst I was between house projects I had a large amount of cash spare for a while.
I considered buying a Ferrari or a Noble etc but when I looked at where I go and what I take I realised that I wouldn't use on.
I'm either carrying stuff or picking it up or delivering / collecting 2+ children.
I can't use my normal cars to anything like their limits on the roads so what's the point of something faster ?
As speed limits get reduced and enforcement is greater combined with normal cars being so much better than they were I see Supercars getting less and less relevant.
I'm getting drawn towards classics these days - judging from their increasing prices - so are many others.
Whilst I was between house projects I had a large amount of cash spare for a while.
I considered buying a Ferrari or a Noble etc but when I looked at where I go and what I take I realised that I wouldn't use on.
I'm either carrying stuff or picking it up or delivering / collecting 2+ children.
I can't use my normal cars to anything like their limits on the roads so what's the point of something faster ?
As speed limits get reduced and enforcement is greater combined with normal cars being so much better than they were I see Supercars getting less and less relevant.
I'm getting drawn towards classics these days - judging from their increasing prices - so are many others.
There may be some roads on the planet where supercars still make some practical sense, but these would generally not be in the UK. It is remarkable that they are still made, (But long may it continue) the moment we stop thinking of and making objects like these we are headed for the grave.
But in most places it seems, they have gone past their sell by date. They will still be made and bought by those who can afford them, because for many they, are not so much a car to be driven, but more a statement of wealth and or fashion, Much as we might like to see it, do you really balieve many of them will be driven they way they were designed to be driven on most public roads. My guess would be no.
But in most places it seems, they have gone past their sell by date. They will still be made and bought by those who can afford them, because for many they, are not so much a car to be driven, but more a statement of wealth and or fashion, Much as we might like to see it, do you really balieve many of them will be driven they way they were designed to be driven on most public roads. My guess would be no.
Since I got into drag racing (both as a racer (Sportsman ET and American Super Stock) and a spectator) I have found super cars less and less impressive, many cars in a typical Pro-ET field make modern supercars look rather tame Stock bodied 60's muscle cars running quicker times and faster speeds over the 1/4 than even the Veyron and that’s before you even get to the Pro classes (Pro ET is a sportsman class) such as pro mod et al.
I don’t think I’d even consider buying a supercar if my numbers come up on Friday using them to their maximum potential in the UK is nigh on impossible – An individual can go much faster for far less money and use all of the cars capability buying a race car (be it drag car or a circuit car) than they can buying a super car, unless you want to pose then buy a supercar
I don’t think I’d even consider buying a supercar if my numbers come up on Friday using them to their maximum potential in the UK is nigh on impossible – An individual can go much faster for far less money and use all of the cars capability buying a race car (be it drag car or a circuit car) than they can buying a super car, unless you want to pose then buy a supercar
V8RX7 said:
I'm not interested in them as they have absolutely no relevance to my life.
Whilst I was between house projects I had a large amount of cash spare for a while.
I considered buying a Ferrari or a Noble etc but when I looked at where I go and what I take I realised that I wouldn't use on.
I'm either carrying stuff or picking it up or delivering / collecting 2+ children.
I can't use my normal cars to anything like their limits on the roads so what's the point of something faster ?
As speed limits get reduced and enforcement is greater combined with normal cars being so much better than they were I see Supercars getting less and less relevant.
I'm getting drawn towards classics these days - judging from their increasing prices - so are many others.
I'm the same, albeit I live in Dubai.....I sold my 964 because the roads here are mainly straight, and to find something worthwhile as fun to drive means a fair drive somewhere first, which I rarely did due to other commitments.....I replaced the 964 with a long wheelbase 7 series. That has now been replaced with a mercury mountaineer because it allows me, the wife, 2 kids and parents to all use one car.Whilst I was between house projects I had a large amount of cash spare for a while.
I considered buying a Ferrari or a Noble etc but when I looked at where I go and what I take I realised that I wouldn't use on.
I'm either carrying stuff or picking it up or delivering / collecting 2+ children.
I can't use my normal cars to anything like their limits on the roads so what's the point of something faster ?
As speed limits get reduced and enforcement is greater combined with normal cars being so much better than they were I see Supercars getting less and less relevant.
I'm getting drawn towards classics these days - judging from their increasing prices - so are many others.
You see 458's, lambos etc each and every day. The last thing I saw which make me look twice was a 2 door classic range rover. There is one garage here that's sublime- old mercs, various old bmw's, a 928gts....several old corvettes. Nothing like the frankly eye popping range of exotics you see here, but to my eyes, far more interesting. Recently saw a convertible xjs just wafting along with a very happy looking guy driving it.
The classic route is something I will be investigating very soon. Modern stuff. Not for me. The last desirable Ferrari to me was the 355.
Didn't know whether to write here or on the F12 thread. But got a close look at an F12 the other day and it just left me feeling rather 'meh'.
I'd imagine if I drove it I'd get a very different impression.
At the time I was more impressed by the drag cars and modifed Golfs that went like absolute stink !
I'd imagine if I drove it I'd get a very different impression.
At the time I was more impressed by the drag cars and modifed Golfs that went like absolute stink !
I've always preferred the idea of the practicality and cost effectiveness of the fastest modified 4 door saloon possible for the least possible financial outlay over the less practical,compromised,money no object supercar idea.Even though the supercar will obviously always ultimately be the fastest option in terms of sustained max speeds.
0a said:
I think I'm getting older. New lambos, the mp12 thing and the 458 don't interest me at all. To the extent that I genuinely don't think they would be on my lotto list.
Agreed - supercars interest me only in the technical sense. No matter how much money I had, I really can't see that I'd ever want to own one. Membership of a supercar club, for sure, but I simply don't have time in my life for cars I can't use pretty frequently.Were I ever to be a lottery winner, I'd probably have a comprehensively rebuilt W124 Mercedes estate with a Brabus-fettled nat-asp E63 engine/ running gear/electronics. Completely stock-looking, obviously, and not too shiny. I'd certainly not have a supercar.
Oddly, I had this conversation with the other half the other day as she was busy figuring out what she'd spend that lottery win on. Once she'd reeled off handbags, shoes, a new lead for the dog, multi-pack of Quavers and had finally got to cars... she seemed genuinely appalled that I didn't share her interest in all things bling and expensive. "But, but, but..." she stuttered "You wouldn't buy an Ferrari?" And which Ferrari would that be then dearest "I dunno, a red one" Ahhh, the red one.
And there lies the issue, whilst Supercars may be stupidly quick, superbly built and have that degree of exclusiveness that only comes with a big bank account, seemingly... I dunno, they just seem a bit too "look at me" plus I've always figured anybody with the cash could buy one and usually for the reasons my missus would buy one. So if I see one, yes it'll raise an eyebrow more so because I wonder to myself "Bloody hell, that lad has a car worth more than the area of Fife in which I reside" but that's it really.
Like your man there, it's the obscure 90's stuff that gets me. I've walked past a V10 R8 Spider in Edinburgh to peer through the windows of a Renault 21 Turbo. Maybe it's because back when I were in short trousers, jumpers for goalposts and such like, 90's performance cars were what I grew up with and ultimately what I could afford. Supercars are like supermodels or super yachts... all very nice but really, I means really? If my numbers came up, I wouldn't be rushing off to buy anything that could even vaguely be deemed a supercar.
That'd be too easy, it'd lack imagination and my mates would think I was a t
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And there lies the issue, whilst Supercars may be stupidly quick, superbly built and have that degree of exclusiveness that only comes with a big bank account, seemingly... I dunno, they just seem a bit too "look at me" plus I've always figured anybody with the cash could buy one and usually for the reasons my missus would buy one. So if I see one, yes it'll raise an eyebrow more so because I wonder to myself "Bloody hell, that lad has a car worth more than the area of Fife in which I reside" but that's it really.
Like your man there, it's the obscure 90's stuff that gets me. I've walked past a V10 R8 Spider in Edinburgh to peer through the windows of a Renault 21 Turbo. Maybe it's because back when I were in short trousers, jumpers for goalposts and such like, 90's performance cars were what I grew up with and ultimately what I could afford. Supercars are like supermodels or super yachts... all very nice but really, I means really? If my numbers came up, I wouldn't be rushing off to buy anything that could even vaguely be deemed a supercar.
That'd be too easy, it'd lack imagination and my mates would think I was a t
t. As I'm getting older, I'm becoming more interested in older cars - although I doubt I'd buy one due to maintainence (I'm just crap with a spanner).
New ones definately still appeal, but seeing them week in, week out does dilute the impact. I think the acessibility of these cars has increased with the rise of internet, forums, car clubs etc. Up until I was a teenager I don't think I'd ever seen a Ferrari in real life. The closest was the poster on my wall, and only ever one or two Porsches.
Seeing both was a special event, but they are common place nowadays and every car show has many of them.
New ones definately still appeal, but seeing them week in, week out does dilute the impact. I think the acessibility of these cars has increased with the rise of internet, forums, car clubs etc. Up until I was a teenager I don't think I'd ever seen a Ferrari in real life. The closest was the poster on my wall, and only ever one or two Porsches.
Seeing both was a special event, but they are common place nowadays and every car show has many of them.
I like to watch them and read the reviews but the stuff about cars that have potential to be within my means excite me more. One of the reasons I stopped reading EVO magazine. Reading them week after week ejaculating over how good the latest Pagani/Porsche/insert another expensive marque in a 8 page story when the latest hot hatch gets a two page review because its not an excuse to ps off to Rimini or the Ring in the latest £100k+ car I will see twice and never sit in started to piss me off.
s off to Rimini or the Ring in the latest £100k+ car I will see twice and never sit in started to piss me off.Dusty964 an acquaintance used a 7 in Dubai, and because he was a personal friend of some of the royalty there. they had it re finished for him, with gold for much of the bits including the wheels
headlamps (but they just looked like they were brass rather than gold) screen surround, mirrors etc.
Not sure if there would be many sevens there owing to the high temps, but it was quite an interesting take on a Caterham 7.
headlamps (but they just looked like they were brass rather than gold) screen surround, mirrors etc.
Not sure if there would be many sevens there owing to the high temps, but it was quite an interesting take on a Caterham 7.
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