mondeo st tdci....pitfalls?
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Pistom said:
Must say, the Z4 economy is about right but to get 42 out of a Mondeo TDCi you'd have to be heavy footed. I've yet to drive one and get below 50. If I really tried it would be closer to 60.
Talking about individual cars in reliability terms men's little though.
The kind of bad luck the poster is talking about can happen with any car.
The Mk3 is a good all round car but like all moderns will try to bankrupt you if things go wrong.
Not comparing it with the Z4 but just look at Z4 forums and they talk about spring failure, PAS failure, hood failure. All costing thousands.
Me, I've had 2 z4s, total reliability, 2 mk3 Mondeos, total reliability.
50 mpg I get 35 Talking about individual cars in reliability terms men's little though.
The kind of bad luck the poster is talking about can happen with any car.
The Mk3 is a good all round car but like all moderns will try to bankrupt you if things go wrong.
Not comparing it with the Z4 but just look at Z4 forums and they talk about spring failure, PAS failure, hood failure. All costing thousands.
Me, I've had 2 z4s, total reliability, 2 mk3 Mondeos, total reliability.
Oh but it's chipped, egr blocker and decat but mainly gets driven on country roads in Devon up and down a valley on the way to (wife's) work and back. All in all best mpg of any car we have owned except for the Clio 1.5 dci
I only used to get 35mpg from the ST on the way to work (10 minute drive on twisty roads and a bit of D/C). Over the same route the Z4 got about 27mpg.
The Z4 would do 35+ on a run if I wasn't trying to be well behaved (6 gears and relatively light) and on one occasion I did a steady 58mph for 40 miles and the display indicated 43mpg
I didn't really care about consumption anyway, the Z4 was an infinitely better car.
If I bought another ST, it would be the ST220, now that's a lovely machine
The Z4 would do 35+ on a run if I wasn't trying to be well behaved (6 gears and relatively light) and on one occasion I did a steady 58mph for 40 miles and the display indicated 43mpg
I didn't really care about consumption anyway, the Z4 was an infinitely better car.
If I bought another ST, it would be the ST220, now that's a lovely machine
Mashedpotatoes said:
Welshbeef said:
50mpg?
It will do 55mpg when on very long motorway trips but say you have a 30mile commute with say 20miles of that on M way with usual commuting congestion getting 42 mpg was about the best I could get.
Was that in the porsche It will do 55mpg when on very long motorway trips but say you have a 30mile commute with say 20miles of that on M way with usual commuting congestion getting 42 mpg was about the best I could get.
I've not ever owned a Porsche - it is on the wish list though.
Welshbeef said:
No the Mondy ST TDCI 2.2 mk3 hatchback.
I've not ever owned a Porsche - it is on the wish list though.
Wy will it only do it on very long motor way trips surely if you get on a motorway and do the most economical speed you will instantly do the best mpg regardless of diving 1 or 100 miles. Tell me different.I've not ever owned a Porsche - it is on the wish list though.
Mashedpotatoes said:
Wy will it only do it on very long motor way trips surely if you get on a motorway and do the most economical speed you will instantly do the best mpg regardless of diving 1 or 100 miles. Tell me different.
It's different.Whilst you're right, it will be doing it's most efficient at that precise point in time, that won't be enough to pull the tank average up to the car's most efficient.
Case in point, my current 2.0 petrol Mondeo, if I brim the tank, reset the computer and head straight for the motorway, by the time I get there, it's normally only reading high 20's if I'm lucky. To get the computer to read it's highest ever record (42mpg) takes over 100 miles of steady driving to drag the average up.
Go into a service station? Say goodbye to 1mpg.
If I fill up and drive the 25 miles from my home, up the A27 to Crawley, the computer never gets above 31-32mpg despite it being a steady run normally.
Blue Oval84 said:
BlackST - You've got a good one there then, hang onto it!
OP - In my time owning one (and working in a Ford dealership when they came out) most of them struggled to achieve anything like that when new, and I certainly never saw one report 50mpg+!
Mine didn't when it was new. It took about 40,000 mikes to run in. OP - In my time owning one (and working in a Ford dealership when they came out) most of them struggled to achieve anything like that when new, and I certainly never saw one report 50mpg+!
Mashedpotatoes said:
Wy will it only do it on very long motor way trips surely if you get on a motorway and do the most economical speed you will instantly do the best mpg regardless of diving 1 or 100 miles. Tell me different.
Because the journey isn't just on the m way. It is starting up the car driving through urban roads with a cold engine then onto the motorway
If I lived with my own private slip road onto the m way and my destination was just off the motorway then It would do the big numbers but 1/3 rd of my commute is non Mway its possible the mpg for that section of my commute in the ST was sub. 30mpg and the m way was 50+mpg thus the average over 40mpg and it was c 42mpg
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