vw scirocco 1.4 tsi
Discussion
Ok, sorry I agree. Here is my advice.
The 1.4tsi engine is woefully underpowered in 122bhp format and I would imagine someone of the OP's age being disappointed with the purchase in about 2weeks. My gf had that engine in a golf and it was thirsty as he'll above 65-70mph as well as noisy. Nice round town though and fairly efficient as long as you drove it like a complete miser.
I would imagine that the 160 would be a bit better on the motorway but probably would suffer on fuel economy around town, therefore not suiting the OP's driving rhythms (short trips). There are also the associated problems that people speak of on here about these engines breaking at any given moment.
The 2.0tdi engine is a nice one but people on here will tell you that it's unreliable. Whenever I have driven one (particularly in 170bhp guise) they are nice and quick enough.
However I have looked around and I simply can't understand why when for £12-14k you can have a 30-40k mile 2.0l tsi 200bhp and you're a young guy with his finances in order who doesn't do many miles, that you would even be considering the 1.4tsi. This for example: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
General advice when buying second hand cars: buy the most desirable version you can afford. The base model now will still only be the base model in 2,3,4 years time and will still be the one you take the biggest beating on when you come to sell it.
The 1.4tsi engine is woefully underpowered in 122bhp format and I would imagine someone of the OP's age being disappointed with the purchase in about 2weeks. My gf had that engine in a golf and it was thirsty as he'll above 65-70mph as well as noisy. Nice round town though and fairly efficient as long as you drove it like a complete miser.
I would imagine that the 160 would be a bit better on the motorway but probably would suffer on fuel economy around town, therefore not suiting the OP's driving rhythms (short trips). There are also the associated problems that people speak of on here about these engines breaking at any given moment.
The 2.0tdi engine is a nice one but people on here will tell you that it's unreliable. Whenever I have driven one (particularly in 170bhp guise) they are nice and quick enough.
However I have looked around and I simply can't understand why when for £12-14k you can have a 30-40k mile 2.0l tsi 200bhp and you're a young guy with his finances in order who doesn't do many miles, that you would even be considering the 1.4tsi. This for example: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
General advice when buying second hand cars: buy the most desirable version you can afford. The base model now will still only be the base model in 2,3,4 years time and will still be the one you take the biggest beating on when you come to sell it.
bulldong said:
Ok, sorry I agree. Here is my advice.
The 1.4tsi engine is woefully underpowered in 122bhp format and I would imagine someone of the OP's age being disappointed with the purchase in about 2weeks. My gf had that engine in a golf and it was thirsty as he'll above 65-70mph as well as noisy. Nice round town though and fairly efficient as long as you drove it like a complete miser.
I would imagine that the 160 would be a bit better on the motorway but probably would suffer on fuel economy around town, therefore not suiting the OP's driving rhythms (short trips). There are also the associated problems that people speak of on here about these engines breaking at any given moment.
The 2.0tdi engine is a nice one but people on here will tell you that it's unreliable. Whenever I have driven one (particularly in 170bhp guise) they are nice and quick enough.
However I have looked around and I simply can't understand why when for £12-14k you can have a 30-40k mile 2.0l tsi 200bhp and you're a young guy with his finances in order who doesn't do many miles, that you would even be considering the 1.4tsi.
General advice when buying second hand cars: buy the most desirable version you can afford. The base model now will still only be the base model in 2,3,4 years time and will still be the one you take the biggest beating on when you come to sell it.
Surprised you found the 122 bhp TSI woefully underpowered. Presumably that was in a Mk6? I've driven the Mk6 122 bhp Golf and have to say I was quite impressed (and I'm used to fairly powerful cars). It has decent acceleration and a lot of torque for a small engine. Gets fairly universal acclaim in road tests etc too.The 1.4tsi engine is woefully underpowered in 122bhp format and I would imagine someone of the OP's age being disappointed with the purchase in about 2weeks. My gf had that engine in a golf and it was thirsty as he'll above 65-70mph as well as noisy. Nice round town though and fairly efficient as long as you drove it like a complete miser.
I would imagine that the 160 would be a bit better on the motorway but probably would suffer on fuel economy around town, therefore not suiting the OP's driving rhythms (short trips). There are also the associated problems that people speak of on here about these engines breaking at any given moment.
The 2.0tdi engine is a nice one but people on here will tell you that it's unreliable. Whenever I have driven one (particularly in 170bhp guise) they are nice and quick enough.
However I have looked around and I simply can't understand why when for £12-14k you can have a 30-40k mile 2.0l tsi 200bhp and you're a young guy with his finances in order who doesn't do many miles, that you would even be considering the 1.4tsi.
General advice when buying second hand cars: buy the most desirable version you can afford. The base model now will still only be the base model in 2,3,4 years time and will still be the one you take the biggest beating on when you come to sell it.
Might be worth the OP looking at the TSI though, as you suggest. Nice enough engine too (I guess it's an update to the TFSI in my daily drive - unless they've changed it from the Mk5 Golf GTI/A3 TFSI).
Edited by johnnyBv8 on Friday 1st November 01:50
totally predictable coming from me, but how about this . . .
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
Yeah I went an test drove the 170 tdi and I test drove the 122 and i am impressed with both, in the meantime I've drove a fiesta st and a 10 plate
Focus st, not stuck between all 4 lmao! Going to have a proper sit down and do some research and test drive them again! Cheers for the advice so far
Focus st, not stuck between all 4 lmao! Going to have a proper sit down and do some research and test drive them again! Cheers for the advice so far
Jonnyboro said:
I wouldn't really want to get a lease car, would like to modify it in time and my best friends a mechanic and can show me how to do things! I can do a few easy mods now but would like to learn!
Fair enough, thought I'd mention incase you weren't aware as there are some good lease deals about these days.delmatt said:
The OP asked for advice about real world MPG for a very specific car and there are now tons of posts suggesting the car is no good, underpowered etc etc.
Someone must have one and been paying attention as to how much petrol it uses!
I think there was just one post suggesting they felt it was underpowered. Someone must have one and been paying attention as to how much petrol it uses!
Re real world mpg, they're meant to be pretty good - on short journeys I doubt a diesel would out-do them. A quick Google search suggests a real world mpg of 42-46 mpg, which will be more accurate than an isolated post on a thread http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/volkswagen/gol...
oldnbold said:
I have a 2011 1.4 with the dsg box which I've had from new. Not had a single problem with it, in fact its fantastic especially like the box which changes so quickly. Often suprises jonny the rep in his rep mobile sat on my bumper on the mototway, when the lane clears and it clicks down to 5th from 7th and leaves him disapearing in my mirror.
On short 1-2 mile trips in trafic it does 30-32mpg, on the motorway keeping pace with traffic about 34-36mpg and on a slowish A road trip where only 45-55mph is possible 38-40mpg.
I posted this in the first couple of posts. I've had the car 2.5 years - real world MPG as I think it's accepted that the man and dsg return about the same mpg.On short 1-2 mile trips in trafic it does 30-32mpg, on the motorway keeping pace with traffic about 34-36mpg and on a slowish A road trip where only 45-55mph is possible 38-40mpg.
To achieve anything over 40mpg you would need your granny to be driving it on a Sunday morning.
Edited by oldnbold on Sunday 3rd November 12:51
oldnbold said:
oldnbold said:
I have a 2011 1.4 with the dsg box which I've had from new. Not had a single problem with it, in fact its fantastic especially like the box which changes so quickly. Often suprises jonny the rep in his rep mobile sat on my bumper on the mototway, when the lane clears and it clicks down to 5th from 7th and leaves him disapearing in my mirror.
On short 1-2 mile trips in trafic it does 30-32mpg, on the motorway keeping pace with traffic about 34-36mpg and on a slowish A road trip where only 45-55mph is possible 38-40mpg.
I posted this in the first couple of posts. I've had the car 2.5 years - real world MPG as I think it's accepted that the man and dsg return about the same mpg.On short 1-2 mile trips in trafic it does 30-32mpg, on the motorway keeping pace with traffic about 34-36mpg and on a slowish A road trip where only 45-55mph is possible 38-40mpg.
To achieve anything over 40mpg you would need your granny to be driving it on a Sunday morning.
Edited by oldnbold on Sunday 3rd November 12:51
bulldong said:
Exactly what he says and exactly what I said in my post if you read it properly. To get any decent figures you need to drive it like a miser. Read what I wrote before criticising.
I have no idea WTF you are talking about Bulldong? I wasn't criticising anyone!! Just reiterating the MPG of the 1.4, 160bhp engine.I've just re read all your posts and cant see where you posted the specific MPG achieved by the 160bhp rocco.
I was actually responding to the post by delmatt
Edited by oldnbold on Monday 4th November 12:42
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