Nearly killed a kid on a moped...

Nearly killed a kid on a moped...

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Willeh85

760 posts

144 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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steve singh said:
Rubin215 said:
Kids on mopeds.

So sixteen years old then.

And you ran away rather than stop the car and give them a good kick in the balls?

You soft ste!

rofl
I do agree - I wouldn't have tolerated some kids hitting my car.
A few years ago in my early 20's I was at the front of a set of lights, it was quiet summer evening. A lad on a moped made his way to the front but kicked my door (god knows why) I put the window down and shouted some nasty words of wisdom.

He produced a crow bar from his jacket, hopped off his bike and started walking over. I jumped the red light(it was a T junction so I could see it was safe) and sped off down the NSL road.

Soft ste, check. Still got my teeth, check.

MotorsportTom

3,322 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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It's got absolutely fk all to do with the fact a CBT isn't a test and everything to do with the fact the two people you encountered are complete and utter ballbags.

If you had encountered morons in cars which I would hazard a guess almost, if not all people on here have, would you then say the driving test needs to be harder etc?

Report the incident to the police, I don't blame you for not retaliating when the lads most likely would keep on their helmets and possibly had armoured knuckles in their gloves.

Well done for being sensible and restrained enough to not use your car as a weapon, unfortunately many wouldn't show that restraint.

DrDeAtH

3,595 posts

233 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Next time OP. Just run them over, you will do the world a favour

wildcat45

8,078 posts

190 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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First of all you did exactly the right thing in not engaging them or getting out of your car.

Obviously in the PH world, you'd have got out, kicked them around a bit, hauled them home and beaten their chav parents to a pulp in an IRA-style punishment procedure. That would have been a better story, but life is not a movie.

You should have got the reg number, and if there was someoene else in the motor, firing up the video camera on a mobile would be a good source of info to back up subsequent allegations by you, or them. Not evidence perhaps but supporting information.

I don't know how well you know the area, but I'd have considered letting them follow me to the nearest police station. They'd probably have twigged you were going there and done a runner, but you never know. Locations with known CCTV are good - supermarket car parks for example. Also crowded areas are better places to be attacked in. More witnesses, more potential helpers for you. Who knows, there could have been a brace or two of PHers there ready to deliver justice. :-)

Either way, with someone else in the car - just get them to dial 999. Police will respond to an ongoing incident - the call is also recorded. "We are in a car on X road, two youths on bikes are attacking us and trying to get into the car etc." If the cops did happen to nick one of them, the audio recording would make interesting listening in court. The victim clearly alarmed and distressed, so frightened they called the cops from the car.

But not getting out of the car and not making it worse was the right thing to do. Much as beatings, waterboarding and toruture would have been fun. You did the right thing.

Rubin215

3,994 posts

157 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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wildcat45 said:
First of all you did exactly the right thing in not engaging them or getting out of your car.

Obviously in the PH world, you'd have got out, kicked them around a bit, hauled them home and beaten their chav parents to a pulp in an IRA-style punishment procedure. That would have been a better story, but life is not a movie.

You should have got the reg number, and if there was someoene else in the motor, firing up the video camera on a mobile would be a good source of info to back up subsequent allegations by you, or them. Not evidence perhaps but supporting information.

I don't know how well you know the area, but I'd have considered letting them follow me to the nearest police station. They'd probably have twigged you were going there and done a runner, but you never know. Locations with known CCTV are good - supermarket car parks for example. Also crowded areas are better places to be attacked in. More witnesses, more potential helpers for you. Who knows, there could have been a brace or two of PHers there ready to deliver justice. :-)

Either way, with someone else in the car - just get them to dial 999. Police will respond to an ongoing incident - the call is also recorded. "We are in a car on X road, two youths on bikes are attacking us and trying to get into the car etc." If the cops did happen to nick one of them, the audio recording would make interesting listening in court. The victim clearly alarmed and distressed, so frightened they called the cops from the car.

But not getting out of the car and not making it worse was the right thing to do. Much as beatings, waterboarding and toruture would have been fun. You did the right thing.
Spoilsport...

williredale

2,866 posts

153 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Rubin215 said:
wildcat45 said:
First of all you did exactly the right thing in not engaging them or getting out of your car.

Obviously in the PH world, you'd have got out, kicked them around a bit, hauled them home and beaten their chav parents to a pulp in an IRA-style punishment procedure. That would have been a better story, but life is not a movie.

You should have got the reg number, and if there was someoene else in the motor, firing up the video camera on a mobile would be a good source of info to back up subsequent allegations by you, or them. Not evidence perhaps but supporting information.

I don't know how well you know the area, but I'd have considered letting them follow me to the nearest police station. They'd probably have twigged you were going there and done a runner, but you never know. Locations with known CCTV are good - supermarket car parks for example. Also crowded areas are better places to be attacked in. More witnesses, more potential helpers for you. Who knows, there could have been a brace or two of PHers there ready to deliver justice. :-)

Either way, with someone else in the car - just get them to dial 999. Police will respond to an ongoing incident - the call is also recorded. "We are in a car on X road, two youths on bikes are attacking us and trying to get into the car etc." If the cops did happen to nick one of them, the audio recording would make interesting listening in court. The victim clearly alarmed and distressed, so frightened they called the cops from the car.

But not getting out of the car and not making it worse was the right thing to do. Much as beatings, waterboarding and toruture would have been fun. You did the right thing.
Spoilsport...
Yes but he is right though!

Toltec

7,165 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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0000 said:
I think it unlikely that (i) you couldn't see him gaining on you as he begins his overtake (ii) if you move at the same time you wouldn't accelerate faster than a moped and (iii) you couldn't warn him of your intention before making the manoeuvre with your indicator. It does rather sound like the OP wasn't paying enough attention to what was going on behind him, he wouldn't be the only one not to check the person behind isn't also thinking about an overtake though and it doesn't excuse their reaction.
I took it that both were moving from a standing start and since you should not be looking in your mirrors as you move off then Mike would not see the bike moving.

Not sure what relevance acceleration has, you do not get priority just because you can accelerate quicker.

There is no mention of indicators so why assume they were not used?

When riding a bike you do not overtake a car where it is likely to pull to the right, really basic stuff.

jimbop1

2,441 posts

205 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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buckline said:
What did you get for dinner?
Something nice apparently.

steve singh

3,995 posts

174 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Willeh85 said:
steve singh said:
Rubin215 said:
Kids on mopeds.

So sixteen years old then.

And you ran away rather than stop the car and give them a good kick in the balls?

You soft ste!

rofl
I do agree - I wouldn't have tolerated some kids hitting my car.
A few years ago in my early 20's I was at the front of a set of lights, it was quiet summer evening. A lad on a moped made his way to the front but kicked my door (god knows why) I put the window down and shouted some nasty words of wisdom.

He produced a crow bar from his jacket, hopped off his bike and started walking over. I jumped the red light(it was a T junction so I could see it was safe) and sped off down the NSL road.

Soft ste, check. Still got my teeth, check.
But in the other 10,000s of incidences they didn't - if you live your life in a state of constant fear and on a sample of 1, unable to read a given situation in it's individual way...well then please continue to hide in your house!

rallycross

12,847 posts

238 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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You did the right thing
Shame you don't have a reg number does need reporting as they will do it again they need a wake up call.

Riley Blue

21,059 posts

227 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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When do we get to the bit where you nearly killed a kid on a moped?

Mave

8,209 posts

216 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Toltec said:
since you should not be looking in your mirrors as you move off
Really? Why not? I always keep an eye on my mirrors when pulling away...

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

234 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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"Lifesavers" just before (and finally at the point of) changing course or direction work in cars as well as on bikes wink .

ClassicCarless

259 posts

172 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Willeh85 said:
steve singh said:
Rubin215 said:
Kids on mopeds.

So sixteen years old then.

And you ran away rather than stop the car and give them a good kick in the balls?

You soft ste!

rofl
I do agree - I wouldn't have tolerated some kids hitting my car.
A few years ago in my early 20's I was at the front of a set of lights, it was quiet summer evening. A lad on a moped made his way to the front but kicked my door (god knows why) I put the window down and shouted some nasty words of wisdom.

He produced a crow bar from his jacket, hopped off his bike and started walking over. I jumped the red light(it was a T junction so I could see it was safe) and sped off down the NSL road.

Soft ste, check. Still got my teeth, check.
This. Maybe they were 16, that's an assumption. Maybe they weren't crowbar carrying scrots, that's also an assumption.

What we do know is that the OP was outnumbered and had the wife in the car. Totally the right call to GTFO.

Even if he had been alone, still the right call to GTFO. Who know's what the scumbags would have done? You don't need to be a trained MMA fighter to do some serious damage with a weapon. If they are stupid enough to be riding long in the manner they were and punching cars whilst moving, I wouldn't want to be making guesses about what might or might not happen if i got out the car.

ETA. Risk my personal safety / health and that of my wife, to protect a piece of metal. A piece of metal which belongs to my company?!

No chance

ClassicCarless

259 posts

172 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Furthermore, I also want to know what was for dinner from sainsburys? I'm heading there shortly, rarely see "nice" things

Yadash

691 posts

126 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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What's annoying is that you don't really even need much qualification to be allowed to go out there and get on a moped, a provisional license and a £70 CBT and the government thinks you're safe to go out there and practise. The kind of people I've encountered around London on Mopeds are absolute idiots for the most part, they decide to ride through underpasses and fly down pedestrian footpaths at 30mph

SEE YA

3,522 posts

246 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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steve singh said:
Rubin215 said:
Kids on mopeds.

So sixteen years old then.

And you ran away rather than stop the car and give them a good kick in the balls?

You soft ste!

rofl
I do agree - I wouldn't have tolerated some kids hitting my car.
+1

CBR JGWRR

6,542 posts

150 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Yadash said:
What's annoying is that you don't really even need much qualification to be allowed to go out there and get on a moped, a provisional license and a £70 CBT and the government thinks you're safe to go out there and practise. The kind of people I've encountered around London on Mopeds are absolute idiots for the most part, they decide to ride through underpasses and fly down pedestrian footpaths at 30mph
Report them to the police then, both of those are illegal.

dvs_dave

8,707 posts

226 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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Get phone, take pics/vid of incident and make sure they see you doing so. They won't hang around for long, and you handily have plenty of evidence to go to the police with should you wish. Or just post up on YouTube for some good old fashioned mob justice.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

142 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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I saw some little st on a moped crash once into a council grit bin once and go flying, I laughed so hard I almost coughed up a lung, this ahole had been weaving and the like and dicking about all day on the estate I was working on. Normally I would be concerned about ones injuries after a crash but not this time.

A bit off topic I know, but just imagine that these two knobs will crash one day, and perhaps might break a few bones, and it may teach then a lesson.

So what did you end up having for dinner?