UK petrol pumps
Discussion
550M said:
Twice a day on our forecourt, and that's on pumps that are checked weekly to ensure the click off works as it should. Always white vans with the petrol cap stuck under the trigger.... Some vans can create an air lock, which after a while creates a blow back that no cut off can stop. This results in messy pump handles, dirty pumps and dirty forecourts, as it is invariably a diesel van. In short, it is thoughtless and uncaring people making the enviroment bad for everyone else.
Why do some people find it such a terrible hardship to manually hold the trigger? I wonder if these are the same people that give a handshake that makes the recipient feel like he's grasping a dead fish, perhaps some kind of genetic abnormality gives them non-existant hand muscles?
MajorProblem said:
Either jam the fuel cap in there or put a split pin on you key ring.
Or pull the trigger with your hand. Radical idea I know.Sayas here it's dropping the phones that poses the risk due to not being sufficiently well encased to prevent battery or circuitry from being a spark ignition source on impact. All other types of ignition sources negligible etc...
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To minimise the lazy retardness visible in the US. Static flash fires and driving off with the hose for a start.
I lime the no mobie policy. Helps people keep their mind on the job whilst dispensing around 1MW of energy.
EF carring the zero.
I lime the no mobie policy. Helps people keep their mind on the job whilst dispensing around 1MW of energy.
EF carring the zero.
Edited by conkerman on Saturday 23 November 11:48
conkerman said:
To minimise the lazy retardness visible in the US. Static flash fires and driving off with the hose for a start.
I lime the no mobie policy. Helps people keep their mind on the job whilst dispensing around 1MW of energy.
EF carring the zero.
Been edited once and I still can't make sense of what he says.I lime the no mobie policy. Helps people keep their mind on the job whilst dispensing around 1MW of energy.
EF carring the zero.
Edited by conkerman on Saturday 23 November 11:48
I know i`m an old fart but if memory serves me right then all pumps triggers used to hold, you had the option of either clicking back the clip to hold the trigger back in place or not and control by hand, there must have been a change of law quite a few years back, you know one of those brilliant H&S issues/ideas
JagXJR said:
GTIR said:
Not all HGV pumps have them. In fact I can't remember the last time I saw one.
Mobile phones are not allowed to be used mainly because you are suppose to be concentrating filling your car with flammable/messy fuel!
Actually the real reason (that they don't tell you) is because it can interfere with the garage equipment and give them all sots of issues (used to work for a company that supported some of the equipment).Mobile phones are not allowed to be used mainly because you are suppose to be concentrating filling your car with flammable/messy fuel!
Just easier for them to say is risk of fire as most will accept that as logical.
How complicated is this "garage equipment"?
If the garage equipment is that sensitive then it's open to all sorts of interference. WiFi (some vehicles have it fitted and always on), the vehicles own cellular setup, two way radio's and all the other stuff that flies about.
TREMAiNE said:
That is complete bulls
t.
I've recently started working as a router for a fuel company and have had to do an ADR awareness course - phones can cause fires and explosions, I was shown a video of a chap who dropped his phone after spilling unleaded, the whole thing caught fire and exploded and needless to say he died. The cellular waves the phone lets off is enough to ignite fuel vapours, its not guaranteed to cause an explosions - but it can and has.
No it's not. But believe what you want, as they don't want people to know why really, I'm not going to explain it here.t. I've recently started working as a router for a fuel company and have had to do an ADR awareness course - phones can cause fires and explosions, I was shown a video of a chap who dropped his phone after spilling unleaded, the whole thing caught fire and exploded and needless to say he died. The cellular waves the phone lets off is enough to ignite fuel vapours, its not guaranteed to cause an explosions - but it can and has.
I've done the same training as well as training on how the garage systems work, as well as Fire Marshall training. So yes, it's to stop fires and explosions
Hoonigan said:
I believe it is something to do with all the time you hold onto the pump you are discharging any static build up (not sure how through a rubber hose though) but if you were to walk away you could become charged and then discharge when touching the pump causing a spark and the possibly the end of the world.....
I wouldn't be surprised if the metal on the nozzle isn't earthed.I think one of the dangers is people sitting down in the car while refuelling - especially if the seat cover and clothes coming into contact are made synthetic materials.
550M said:
Twice a day on our forecourt, and that's on pumps that are checked weekly to ensure the click off works as it should. Always white vans with the petrol cap stuck under the trigger.... Some vans can create an air lock, which after a while creates a blow back that no cut off can stop. This results in messy pump handles, dirty pumps and dirty forecourts, as it is invariably a diesel van. In short, it is thoughtless and uncaring people making the enviroment bad for everyone else.
On certain pumps the average white van can take an age to fill ( it's not £20 for white van man-it could be as much as over £80) . Apart from that most diesel pumps I encounter are stinking of diesel . Local place they're out cleaning the site/ pump faces, but seldom do I see the pump handle getting a clean . Then there's the matter of plastic gloves .Most places seem to think it's nice to economise on customer comforts. That's in twelve years of both derv van and car. Possibly it's because a lot more cars are derv and the silly bints can't keep things clean . The phone thing would be a nice story if it wasn't for the fact that no one physically switches their phone off, they just don't make calls, and the phone will periodically log into the network sending out these deadly signals.
So pretty much all forecourts have phone transmissions going off, especially as they often rent out the pricing board as somewhere to stick a phone mast.
So pretty much all forecourts have phone transmissions going off, especially as they often rent out the pricing board as somewhere to stick a phone mast.
One of these fits in the hole perfectly if they have left the lock clip in the handle, normally they just remove the pins. Just stick one on your keyring, got to be the thin style hs-psc. Used to 'borrow' them from college when I first started driving.
Standard CO2 Extinguisher Pin
Standard CO2 Extinguisher Pin
TREMAiNE said:
JagXJR said:
Actually the real reason (that they don't tell you) is because it can interfere with the garage equipment and give them all sots of issues (used to work for a company that supported some of the equipment).
Just easier for them to say is risk of fire as most will accept that as logical.
That is complete bullsJust easier for them to say is risk of fire as most will accept that as logical.
t. I've recently started working as a router for a fuel company and have had to do an ADR awareness course - phones can cause fires and explosions, I was shown a video of a chap who dropped his phone after spilling unleaded, the whole thing caught fire and exploded and needless to say he died. The cellular waves the phone lets off is enough to ignite fuel vapours, its not guaranteed to cause an explosions - but it can and has.
t.In mine it is quite feasible as I have watched a demonstration where a 100w 20-odd MHz signal amplifier was used to generate enough interference for a fuel pump to record virtually nothing.
Im fully aware that RF can start a fire as wll, although an illegal CB amplifier (again) is far, far more likely to be the cause here, too.
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