Do winter tyres increase lateral grip?
Discussion
sawman said:
if she fishtailed for 150 yards I might suggest the gas pedal was being pressed too hard for the conditions?
Also I rather suspect that for a canadian winter you would be better off with proper winter tyres, I am not sure that all seasons are as good as full on winters in -25 or whatever you have been enjoying for the last few weeks, although if you have had some of that frozen rain creating a thick layer of ice on everything, no amount of tyre tech is going to save you
You're probably right. She said she backed off (but I wasn't there). I can't really criticise though, as my accident was probably worse and it went wrong very quickly! I don't rate the all-seasons particularly on the Jeep, as I've got stuck in deep snow quite a few times now but on normal clear roads or thin layers of snow or ice, traction is pretty good. Haven't got the car stuck yet but then I haven't driven it in deep snow either!Also I rather suspect that for a canadian winter you would be better off with proper winter tyres, I am not sure that all seasons are as good as full on winters in -25 or whatever you have been enjoying for the last few weeks, although if you have had some of that frozen rain creating a thick layer of ice on everything, no amount of tyre tech is going to save you
Edited by sawman on Thursday 30th January 19:19
HertsBiker said:
Yes we are really in need of some proper all season tyres like we used to have. The summer bias is too strong.
We do, the latest all season tyres have gone pretty much the other way, and are basically winter tyres by a different name! http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2013-Auto-Bil...
Nokian's engineers put a lot of thought and effort into lateral grip,
something that other major tyre makers are just starting to pay more attention to.
http://www.nokiantyres.com/tyre?id=32097385&na...
This is how Nokian Tyres measure lateral grip of their winter tyres...
https://www.tut.fi/ms/muo/tyreschool/moduulit/modu...
something that other major tyre makers are just starting to pay more attention to.
http://www.nokiantyres.com/tyre?id=32097385&na...
This is how Nokian Tyres measure lateral grip of their winter tyres...
https://www.tut.fi/ms/muo/tyreschool/moduulit/modu...
white_goodman said:
sawman said:
if she fishtailed for 150 yards I might suggest the gas pedal was being pressed too hard for the conditions?
Also I rather suspect that for a canadian winter you would be better off with proper winter tyres, I am not sure that all seasons are as good as full on winters in -25 or whatever you have been enjoying for the last few weeks, although if you have had some of that frozen rain creating a thick layer of ice on everything, no amount of tyre tech is going to save you
You're probably right. She said she backed off (but I wasn't there). I can't really criticise though, as my accident was probably worse and it went wrong very quickly! I don't rate the all-seasons particularly on the Jeep, as I've got stuck in deep snow quite a few times now but on normal clear roads or thin layers of snow or ice, traction is pretty good. Haven't got the car stuck yet but then I haven't driven it in deep snow either!Also I rather suspect that for a canadian winter you would be better off with proper winter tyres, I am not sure that all seasons are as good as full on winters in -25 or whatever you have been enjoying for the last few weeks, although if you have had some of that frozen rain creating a thick layer of ice on everything, no amount of tyre tech is going to save you
I've seen tyres described as All-Season in the US that we would regard as summer tyres. Some of them had tremendous treadwear rating so must be rock hard.
Stuartggray said:
I always think of driving in snowy conditions with all season or winters on as being roughly the same as driving on summers on a gravel track. Keep the inputs fairly low and you won't notice, but start charging and you'll be in trouble.
That's a very good analogy. Winter tyres don't make the snow and ice go away but they do reverse a chunk of the usual loss of traction that regular tyres would suffer from.But if you push it then you will still have trouble.
I think the problem is that when some people first use them 'in anger' they tend to lose their sense of perspective as the improvement in overall grip is quite dramatic.
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