Speeding worse than drug taking? Public opinion.
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I don't think either driving quickly or taking drugs is intrinsically bad.
There are circumstances where both may be harmful but relatively speaking drug taking is probably the more harmful activity to society.
I'm probably going a bit Daily Wail but if you buy illegal drugs you are giving money to criminals. If you drive quickly you'll be giving money to the government (extra fuel used, increased wear and tear, perhaps the occasional speeding fine).
So, take drugs and support who knows what illegal activity; or drive fast and pay for schools, hospitals, roads, state pensions, etc)
Seems pretty clear to me.
There are circumstances where both may be harmful but relatively speaking drug taking is probably the more harmful activity to society.
I'm probably going a bit Daily Wail but if you buy illegal drugs you are giving money to criminals. If you drive quickly you'll be giving money to the government (extra fuel used, increased wear and tear, perhaps the occasional speeding fine).
So, take drugs and support who knows what illegal activity; or drive fast and pay for schools, hospitals, roads, state pensions, etc)
Seems pretty clear to me.
HertsBiker said:
Gaz. said:
Troubleatmill said:
Depends on your perspective.
Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.
Still have a heavy right foot?
I'm sure that sounded awesome in your head.Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.
Still have a heavy right foot?
And I said hypothetically
I'm sure we all have opportunities to let the internal combustion engine breath a little bit.
Threaten? Nah - I'm a softie.
Hypoethetically - wipe out my family. I wouldn't be best pleased. Let's leave it as that
Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 13th February 21:04
Its the perception that speeding is essential/catalyst to a crash.
Drugs however are far worse as I would like to think people would know, they are a massive part of organised crime, every time you buy drugs at some level you are adding to organised crime (unless you are very hippy and grow your own!), and therefore are funding various other criminal actions. On a very low level though, drugs are heavily linked to thefts, stuff gets nicked to pay for drugs all the time. Drugs are an essential part of the criminal world, anything that is illegal and in demand is. That's why there is such a strong case for the legalization of drugs. Perhaps you should mention to your colleagues that buy buying illegal drugs they are inadvertently funding child prostitution.
Nothing like 'think of the children' to get a response!
I, like most on here, don't condone dangerous driving, but speed should be not the main focus in campaigns for road safety.
Less 'speed kills', more 'concentration saves lives'. How many people have you heard say 'Im a safe driver I never speed', accidents can happen at any speed, they don't often happen if everyone is super aware of there surroundings.
Drugs however are far worse as I would like to think people would know, they are a massive part of organised crime, every time you buy drugs at some level you are adding to organised crime (unless you are very hippy and grow your own!), and therefore are funding various other criminal actions. On a very low level though, drugs are heavily linked to thefts, stuff gets nicked to pay for drugs all the time. Drugs are an essential part of the criminal world, anything that is illegal and in demand is. That's why there is such a strong case for the legalization of drugs. Perhaps you should mention to your colleagues that buy buying illegal drugs they are inadvertently funding child prostitution.
Nothing like 'think of the children' to get a response!
I, like most on here, don't condone dangerous driving, but speed should be not the main focus in campaigns for road safety.
Less 'speed kills', more 'concentration saves lives'. How many people have you heard say 'Im a safe driver I never speed', accidents can happen at any speed, they don't often happen if everyone is super aware of there surroundings.
I try to be friends with 'good' people but the type of person that the OP mentions is usually in denial about their behaviour because they only mix with like minded people so their behaviour is never questioned. Sounds a bit like pistonheads and speed. 
They aren't really 'bad' because everyone has flaws but they should be aware of the irony of judging that somebody is judgemental for judging them.
They aren't really 'bad' because everyone has flaws but they should be aware of the irony of judging that somebody is judgemental for judging them. Troubleatmill said:
Depends on your perspective.
Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car (or bike) and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.
Still have a heavy right foot?
wheres that cringeworthy threat thread?Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car (or bike) and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.
Still have a heavy right foot?
Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 13th February 20:47
On topic, depends on the drugs and the speeding as to which is worse
wolves_wanderer said:
Troubleatmill said:
Depends on your perspective.
Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car (or bike) and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.
Still have a heavy right foot?
wheres that cringeworthy threat thread?Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car (or bike) and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.
Still have a heavy right foot?
Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 13th February 20:47
On topic, depends on the drugs and the speeding as to which is worse
te tonight Back on topic. Driving while on drugs/ alcohol etc = bad. A little extra air inflow into the engine = good. Keeping the car on your side of the black stuff = better.
Trouble: sorry if I seemed a bit snappy then. I totally understand protecting the family as top priority. I just resent the people that do drugs and criticise me for a bit odd excess mph. Both are illegal, but one is now regarded as ok. I was brought up to things drugs bad, fast cars cool.
GroundEffect said:
Drug taking only really affects those who do it, to a point - weed really only does affect the user but some drugs like heroin obviously has knock-on effects.
Speeding directly impacts the safety of others.
Simple?
Then you are massively ignorant to the impact that drugs have on the world.Speeding directly impacts the safety of others.
Simple?
Do you think the people that produce the drugs are nice kind friendly types? Do you think the supply chain for drugs is similar to the one Tesco uses? Where does the money come from, both from the takers and set up costs for the producers?
That's just big picture stuff. Now go speak to a social worker or the many medical people that have to deal with the fall out from drugs daily. What percentage of people are in prison due to drug related crimes, including theft to pay for it amongst many other things. Do people get mugged at knife point by speeders? Do speeders go around doing armed robberies? The list is endless because the knock on impact of drugs is endless.
Anyone who thinks speeding is a worse crime than drug taking is deluded at best.
HertsBiker said:
Trouble: sorry if I seemed a bit snappy then. I totally understand protecting the family as top priority. I just resent the people that do drugs and criticise me for a bit odd excess mph. Both are illegal, but one is now regarded as ok. I was brought up to things drugs bad, fast cars cool.
Don't sweat it - I just sold my 200mph baby . I have withdrawal symptoms 
SystemParanoia said:
I'd rather share roadspace with a speeder who's concentrating, than a dawdler thats high on Ketamine or other assorted substances.
hell.. pedestrians on drugs are a big enough hazard ffs
This isn't about "drug driving" hell.. pedestrians on drugs are a big enough hazard ffs
This is about recreational drug use (not specifically whilst driving) vs. driving fast.
Completely retarded comparison to even contemplate.
Lewtyper said:
SystemParanoia said:
I'd rather share roadspace with a speeder who's concentrating, than a dawdler thats high on Ketamine or other assorted substances.
hell.. pedestrians on drugs are a big enough hazard ffs
This isn't about "drug driving" hell.. pedestrians on drugs are a big enough hazard ffs
This is about recreational drug use (not specifically whilst driving) vs. driving fast.
Completely retarded comparison to even contemplate.
So is alcohol.
of course people never drive with drugs in their system.
besides.. re-read the last sentence.. that was about pedestrians
heres one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnawGiQlGQI
How fast and where is sort of like which drugs and where. Its a sliding scale of relativity. Doing 85mph on a motorway would be like smoking cigarettes, naughty, but socially acceptable to most. Cannabis = exceeding 90, a bit more naughty, but most of us have done it. etc etc.
I used to see alot of filthy smackheads around where I once called home. I hate the dirty, ratty little fkers. Drugs are worse hands down. I may exceed the speed limit from time to time and have been known to enjoy a smoke and party drugs. In my mind the depravity around hard class A use is many times worse than driving to extremes with a clean and sober mind.
I used to see alot of filthy smackheads around where I once called home. I hate the dirty, ratty little f
kers. Drugs are worse hands down. I may exceed the speed limit from time to time and have been known to enjoy a smoke and party drugs. In my mind the depravity around hard class A use is many times worse than driving to extremes with a clean and sober mind. SystemParanoia said:
Nicotine is a drug
So is alcohol.
of course people never drive with drugs in their system.
besides.. re-read the last sentence.. that was about pedestrians
heres one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnawGiQlGQI
The OP is comparing taking drugs to driving fast. Not driving on drugs vs driving fast.So is alcohol.
of course people never drive with drugs in their system.
besides.. re-read the last sentence.. that was about pedestrians
heres one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnawGiQlGQI
Not sure what point you are trying to make.
Yes, nicotine and alcohol are drugs, i'm well aware but, thanks
Lol at that video.
Lewtyper said:
SystemParanoia said:
Nicotine is a drug
So is alcohol.
of course people never drive with drugs in their system.
besides.. re-read the last sentence.. that was about pedestrians
heres one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnawGiQlGQI
The OP is comparing taking drugs to driving fast. Not driving on drugs vs driving fast.So is alcohol.
of course people never drive with drugs in their system.
besides.. re-read the last sentence.. that was about pedestrians
heres one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnawGiQlGQI
Not sure what point you are trying to make.
Yes, nicotine and alcohol are drugs, i'm well aware but, thanks
Heres another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GODNph4Gekg
Edited by SystemParanoia on Thursday 13th February 21:56
Troubleatmill said:
Depends on your perspective.
Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car (or bike) and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.
Still have a heavy right foot?
Yes, my heavy feet are quaking in my boots.Hypothetically - If you lose control of your car (or bike) and wipe out my nearest and dearest; and I found out you have a habit of speeding...
Then there is nowhere on this planet that you and your family will be safe.
I would make it a mission to remove from this earth what you love the most.
Still have a heavy right foot?
Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 13th February 20:47
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