Road Rage - Small bump leading to assault.

Road Rage - Small bump leading to assault.

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Al U

2,313 posts

133 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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romeogolf said:
This is the merge in question. It's a very short stretch of road, straight off a round about. Two lanes of traffic queue to merge at that point.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ll=50.898137,-1.407...
I'm not even going to bother clicking the link. Anyone can read your first post and see that you pushed in at the last second and it didn't end well for you.

Silverbullet767

10,732 posts

208 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Al U said:
Silverbullet767 said:
Typical idiot queueing mentality, abuse the road, every man for himself at the merge point.
Fixed that for you.
Read the highway code, and grow up.

cj2013

1,409 posts

128 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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I think this may well come down to the difference between those who wait to be given the right of way, and those who choose to give the driver whose ROW it is no option.

As much as you have the right (as far as the highway code goes) to merge later, manners cost nothing in this case. Unfortunately, it sounds like an expensive way to learn that.

As per a previous reply, the other thread doesn't help garnish sympathy.

Biker's Nemesis

38,855 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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romeogolf said:
I'm not going to merge 3 miles before required just because some idiot up ahead thinks they deserve to be first.
That there is your problem sunshine. Even though everyone has waited its your right to sail past everyone who has waited.

As someone else has just said sometimes things don't plan out the way you think they should, if you're going to buck the trend expect the unexpected, this time it was a smack in the chops.

Keep doing it and it will happen again and .........., .........

julian64

14,317 posts

256 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Been done to death in a number of threads.

Personally I blame the people who design the roads. Its simply stupid that these threads come up over and over again, and the people who design the road simply think everyone but themselves are daft.

Bennet

2,125 posts

133 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Personally I think pushing your way in to a lane when there's no gap and no one is letting you in is a worse violation of good driving practice than refusing to let someone in.

Fly past as many people as you want but don't try to bully your way in to someone else's lane when you get to the end. Otherwise you might have a crash or get punched by someone who doesn't agree with your take on road manners.

You should probably still press charges.

romeogolf

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2,056 posts

121 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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cj2013 said:
I think this may well come down to the difference between those who wait to be given the right of way, and those who choose to give the driver whose ROW it is no option.

As much as you have the right (as far as the highway code goes) to merge later, manners cost nothing in this case. Unfortunately, it sounds like an expensive way to learn that.

As per a previous reply, the other thread doesn't help garnish sympathy.
"Manners Cost Nothing" - I'm very much a let one person go, then go yourself. The BMW let the car ahead of me in and moved forward. I moved in to the gap he left and it was the Nissan driver who decided not to let me know. But it's my manners which need attention? Had she been nose-to-tail with the BMW there wouldn't have been a gap and I'd not have tried to merge there, I'd wait for the next gap. Manners work both ways.

Al U

2,313 posts

133 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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RXED said:
If it's a 2 lane road, that merges into one, you should use both lanes to cut down on congestion! Then merge ant the merging point!

The amount of idiots I see sat in a blocked inside lane with an empty outside lane is hilarious! If people were not so ignorant, merging 1 by 1 would make life easier and smoother for all!

In the instance you talk about, if he can move along and cut in, why the hell were you sat queuing for 5 min?
Where did I say anything about a 2 lane road? My point is that there are plenty of these situations that everyone faces on their commute every day. Most people are patient, courteous and just queue whereas the occasional plug decides to chance it cutting in at the last minute. The thing is it's annoying for people that queue to see people cut in at the last minute and from the sounds of this instance it's an example of it happening and it not ending as well as the OP had hoped. I think what happened after was still unacceptable but it likely could of been avoided if he didn't "admittedly join the queue a little late" as he put it.

Shelsleyf2

419 posts

234 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Silverbullet767 said:
Al U said:
I think this went a lot worse for you than it should of. BUT, I hate people like you that think their journey is more important than other people's and cut in at the last minute when people like me have been queuing for 5 minutes or so. Maybe in the future you'll just join the back of the queue now?
Typical British queueing mentality, use the road, merge properly. No need for hate.
Your problem is British Police and other British motorists are in the majority and your view is not the one prevailing.

romeogolf

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2,056 posts

121 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Bennet said:
Personally I think pushing your way in to a lane when there's no gap and no one is letting you in is a worse violation of good driving practice than refusing to let someone in.

Fly past as many people as you want but don't try to bully your way in to someone else's lane when you get to the end. Otherwise you might have a crash or get punched by someone who doesn't agree with your take on road manners.

You should probably still press charges.
Everyone has the impression of "flying" past. It was two lanes of queuing traffic merging into one.

Al U

2,313 posts

133 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Silverbullet767 said:
Read the highway code, and grow up.
Just admit that you're in the "inconsiderate git who pulls in late" camp.

Biker's Nemesis

38,855 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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romeogolf said:
"Manners Cost Nothing" - I'm very much a let one person go, then go yourself. The BMW let the car ahead of me in and moved forward. I moved in to the gap he left and it was the Nissan driver who decided not to let me know. But it's my manners which need attention? Had she been nose-to-tail with the BMW there wouldn't have been a gap and I'd not have tried to merge there, I'd wait for the next gap. Manners work both ways.
Maybe, just maybe she had been one of those "idiots" that had sat and watched people like yourself sail down the outside lane.

Maybe she thought you're not getting in, just like you were thinking "yes I am".

I bet you're more carefull in future.

Silverbullet767

10,732 posts

208 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Shelsleyf2 said:
Silverbullet767 said:
Al U said:
I think this went a lot worse for you than it should of. BUT, I hate people like you that think their journey is more important than other people's and cut in at the last minute when people like me have been queuing for 5 minutes or so. Maybe in the future you'll just join the back of the queue now?
Typical British queueing mentality, use the road, merge properly. No need for hate.
Your problem is British Police and other British motorists are in the majority and your view is not the one prevailing.
British Police? Really? So the ones enforcing the law don't abide by it? I'm pretty sure if a marked police car tried to merge correctly, the Nevara driver wouldn't have reacted the same way. The problem is not the OP, it was the BMW driver and the Navara driver. The majority view doesn't make it the right one. I'll say again, we need 'merge like a zip' signs to educate the public in something they should already know.

Silverbullet767

10,732 posts

208 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Al U said:
Silverbullet767 said:
Read the highway code, and grow up.
Just admit that you're in the "inconsiderate git who pulls in late" camp.
Do you put it in your diary to get on my tits? Keyboard warrior detected!

Biker's Nemesis

38,855 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Silverbullet767 said:
British Police? Really? So the ones enforcing the law don't abide by it? I'm pretty sure if a marked police car tried to merge correctly, the Nevara driver wouldn't have reacted the same way. The problem is not the OP, it was the BMW driver and the Navara driver. The majority view doesn't make it the right one. I'll say again, we need 'merge like a zip' signs to educate the public in something they should already know.
The BMW driver let the car infront of him merg, it was the OP hitting his car that upset the BMW driver.

We only have the OP version of events here to, as we all know there's always 2 sides to everything.

romeogolf

Original Poster:

2,056 posts

121 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Silverbullet767 said:
British Police? Really? So the ones enforcing the law don't abide by it? I'm pretty sure if a marked police car tried to merge correctly, the Nevara driver wouldn't have reacted the same way. The problem is not the OP, it was the BMW driver and the Navara driver. The majority view doesn't make it the right one. I'll say again, we need 'merge like a zip' signs to educate the public in something they should already know.
Just THANK YOU for seeing sense. I just cannot wrap my mind around people who accuse me or you of being selfish to "push in", and then being equally selfish is not letting us merge.

MrBarry123

6,031 posts

123 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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If the left lane users are too scared/lazy to use the right lane then I hardly see how someone using it is justification for them getting RKO'd? The people who stick solely to the left hand lane cause more problems than they solve because they double the length of the queue by not taking advantage of a perfectly good free lane.

OP - I'm fighting your corner here and assuming you didn't throw a can of Red Bull at or poo on the bonnet of either the BMW or the Nissan during this incident.

Biker's Nemesis

38,855 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Silverbullet767 said:
Do you put it in your diary to get on my tits?
rofl

gazza285

9,844 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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There's about 50 yards of two lane off that roundabout, I'm not saying you deserved a slap for trying your maneuver, but I'm not surprised people aren't happy with you, is it worth the aggravation to gain so little?

Al U

2,313 posts

133 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Silverbullet767 said:
Do you put it in your diary to get on my tits? Keyboard warrior detected!
I'm genuinely not trying to annoy you. We both just clearly have differing opinions. This really is a marmite situation where you either think one way or the other. I'm a person that will queue, whereas you are a person that will cut in at the last minute. It really doesn't bother me that much because like the other people who are patient and just queue, we are quite laid back.