RE: BMW M4 GTS - full details
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Looks fantastic to me (other than that front splitter, but I'm sure it's purposeful). They'll have no problem shifting 30 of these in the UK; if you want one, you'll pay it, simple as. It's not a car bought by people who only have one car on the drive, so it's not competing with standard 911s, etc.
Why oh why can't BMW make nice looking wheels anymore? Last set of nice runs they made were on the CSL over 10 years ago!
BMW take a look at how Porsche do things and try a little harder.
So the question is, this or a GT3 (yes it'll be second hand)... Erm not that hard a choice really!
BMW take a look at how Porsche do things and try a little harder.
So the question is, this or a GT3 (yes it'll be second hand)... Erm not that hard a choice really!
epom said:
If ever an item lived up to its name, that Spoiler
lol. No logical sense of value at all, and zero desirability to me. I'm sure there'll hold their money for the few collectors who add them to a collection, but if there's ever a market correction, these and the previous GTS will plummet. This one probably more so. A fool and their money... stuckmojo said:
veevee said:
Am I just being cynical, or would a remap and some lighter seats not do pretty much the same job, and save you 60k?
Definitely.Exactly my thoughts after reading this.
Surely you could create your own M4 GTS pretty easily if starting with a standard M4 with the ceramic brake option.
This all sounds very 2003.......
"That new M3 CSL, what a joke. Costs 50% more than the standard car and isn't much more powerful. A chip and lighter seats on a standard M3 and you have the same for so much less. I'm out!"
As for the GTS, they will sell them all, it will be great........and in 10 years time we will look back fondly at it.
GT3 RS for me please.
"That new M3 CSL, what a joke. Costs 50% more than the standard car and isn't much more powerful. A chip and lighter seats on a standard M3 and you have the same for so much less. I'm out!"
As for the GTS, they will sell them all, it will be great........and in 10 years time we will look back fondly at it.
GT3 RS for me please.
Maxus said:
This all sounds very 2003.......
"That new M3 CSL, what a joke. Costs 50% more than the standard car and isn't much more powerful. A chip and lighter seats on a standard M3 and you have the same for so much less. I'm out!"
As for the GTS, they will sell them all, it will be great........and in 10 years time we will look back fondly at it.
GT3 RS for me please.
Yes but the M4 GTS is 100% more expensive than the standard M4 and from comparing the changes made against the M3 CSL, the CSL was significantly more trick."That new M3 CSL, what a joke. Costs 50% more than the standard car and isn't much more powerful. A chip and lighter seats on a standard M3 and you have the same for so much less. I'm out!"
As for the GTS, they will sell them all, it will be great........and in 10 years time we will look back fondly at it.
GT3 RS for me please.
Frik said:
Almost every post about how you don't seem to get much for the money given its based on a standard car. We could have this thread every 6 years or so about the M3 couldn't we? Then another one lamenting the lack of the special M cars on the market and how well they're holding their prices...
That's fair but to me BMW are completed taking the Michael with the comedy price. Even the CSL was only about 25% more expensive then the regular car from memory, possibly less. It will be bought. By people with more money than sense who then stick it in a garage forever but that's life. Until the current bubble burst/deflates (and that won't be until interest rates creep up which is increasingly looking more distant) I don't see a change to this. Porsche could slap a250k price on the next GT3 RS and it will still sell
Traction.
More power and torque is great and all, but the M4's problem consistently seems to be its ability to put it down (in ALL the videos i've seen). Sticky OE rubber will help some, and I'm sure accounts for a decent dollop of that 'ring time, but surely more spikey torque and more top end just means they'll go up in smoke as quickly as the standard.
Also it's a shame BMW didn't listen to Chris Harris's comment (who does though) on the e90 M3 GTS, that they should build a few thousand and sell them at a 25k premium over standard. Fewer garage queens, and more on the road then...
More power and torque is great and all, but the M4's problem consistently seems to be its ability to put it down (in ALL the videos i've seen). Sticky OE rubber will help some, and I'm sure accounts for a decent dollop of that 'ring time, but surely more spikey torque and more top end just means they'll go up in smoke as quickly as the standard.
Also it's a shame BMW didn't listen to Chris Harris's comment (who does though) on the e90 M3 GTS, that they should build a few thousand and sell them at a 25k premium over standard. Fewer garage queens, and more on the road then...
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