Supercar design! Anything which doesn't fit these 4 groups?
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Mr2Mike said:
Mid-engined, two seater sports car
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OK, if we will go into that there is also the KTM car. For that we would either have to create an extra category which would include all the wheels out of the body cars like Lotus 7, MG etc. But reason I didn't is they are not sports cars as we see in modern times or at least more of a subset, called roadsters. Yes a subset of sports cars for sure. But lets leave them out and focus on hard top or at least targa, wheel enclosed sports cars.But yes, this is a different category which doesn't fit any of the above. You are right. But a few decades ago every sports car would fit in that bracket.
DRVR said:
Equus said:
What do I win, and when are you back at school?
In any case I specified sports-cars. That technically is not what peopl think of as a sport-car. Hot-hatch more like it.
A few hundred were made for rally homologation.
Renault 5 turbo 1 and 2.
Equus said:
No but it was probably built long before you were born.
Hot hatch, my arse.
You might be just about old enough to remember its successor:
Well, isn't the blue one also a hatchback? Like a Golf, Polo, Fiat 500 or Mini Cooper?Hot hatch, my arse.
You might be just about old enough to remember its successor:
Those are sporty but they don't fit in the sports cars bracket as in Ferrari, Porsche, Corvette etc.
DRVR said:
OK, if we will go into that there is also the KTM car. For that we would either have to create an extra category which would include all the wheels out of the body cars like Lotus 7, MG etc. But reason I didn't is they are not sports cars as we see in modern times or at least more of a subset, called roadsters. Yes a subset of sports cars for sure. But lets leave them out and focus on hard top or at least targa, wheel enclosed sports cars.
But yes, this is a different category which doesn't fit any of the above. You are right. But a few decades ago every sports car would fit in that bracket.
Ok how about this one:But yes, this is a different category which doesn't fit any of the above. You are right. But a few decades ago every sports car would fit in that bracket.
or this one
or this one
Edited by Mr2Mike on Monday 29th August 16:28
Mr2Mike said:
Ok how about this one:
or this one
MR2 is Ferrari-like. It was designed to be a mini-Ferrari of sorts.or this one
MG is a roadester. If you take the top off then things get mushy. But besides that I would actually say it's more like a normal car. If it was front engined nobody would make a difference between it and something like a Golf or Escort cabrio, which are not proper sports cars. But like I said, let's leaves Carbrios, Spiders and Roadsters out.
DRVR said:
Equus said:
What do I win, and when are you back at school?
In any case I specified sports-cars. That technically is not what peopl think of as a sport-car. Hot-hatch more like it.
OP, I cannot quite figure out what you are hoping to achieve from this topic.
DRVR said:
Well, isn't the blue one also a hatchback?
No more than this is a hatchback... in both cases, there's nothing back there but engine and a small amount of luggage space:
aka_kerrly said:
OP, I cannot quite figure out what you are hoping to achieve from this topic.
To relieve the boredom until the new term starts, presumably?OP, we've humored you so far, but don't push your luck... run along and get mummy to buy you an ice cream, or something, before the grown ups start to lose patience.
aka_kerrly said:
Not a sports car? It clearly fits the criteria of 2 seats, mid-rear engine and is based on Group 2 rally car that won Monte Carlo so in my opinion has more kudos than the bulk of "supercars" with no homologation
OP, I cannot quite figure out what you are hoping to achieve from this topic.
What I'm hoping to achieve with the topics is to find out if I'm overlooking any other type of supercar or sports car design which don't fit the above categories. It's a purely research and curiosity thing. I couldn't think of any designs that didn't fit which weren't just bizzare. Veyron was the closest thing.OP, I cannot quite figure out what you are hoping to achieve from this topic.
So I asked to see if anybody could dig something up. I obviously don't know every car ever made.
As for sports cars maybe I should have left it at supercars then. But hatchbacks are not considered sports cars in design terms. The Renault 5 for example is technically characterized as a super-mini. Where a Ferrari 355 is categorized as a sports-car. It's a design thing. Not performance or use related. Like fastback, nothcback, hatchback, sedan etc. It's a class of car.
Iva Barchetta said:
How about the Ford RS200 ?
Also a homologated Group B rallycar ,not a hatchback either like the Renault.
Doesn't look like a Ferrari ,it has a Sierra windscreen too.
Lancia 037 ?
The RS200, although technically classed as sports car is more like a normal 2-door notchback. Not every rear engined car is a sports cars to the true sense. The Convair for example isn't. It belongs with Mustangs and Cameros. But it's rear engined.Also a homologated Group B rallycar ,not a hatchback either like the Renault.
Doesn't look like a Ferrari ,it has a Sierra windscreen too.
Lancia 037 ?
The RS200 besides the round Porsche lights can be seen as a shorter Escort or as a squash Ferrari with a run of the mill car front end.
The Lancia again is more with the Mustang. More of a GT if you will.
Iva Barchetta said:
How about the Ford RS200 ?
Also a homologated Group B rallycar ,not a hatchback either like the Renault.
Doesn't look like a Ferrari ,it has a Sierra windscreen too.
Lancia 037 ?
Essentially we are expected to find a list of cars that don't look like a supercar from any of the traditional supercar manufactures, the niche supercar manufactures, the even smaller hypercar manufactures or anything inspired by a racing car.Also a homologated Group B rallycar ,not a hatchback either like the Renault.
Doesn't look like a Ferrari ,it has a Sierra windscreen too.
Lancia 037 ?
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