Why no police 335d?

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CRA1G

6,571 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Monkeynut21 said:
I would imagine the fact that a 335d is only available in an automatic would play a part as well.
Yep,a big part I would have thought...

A900ss

3,256 posts

153 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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CRA1G said:
Monkeynut21 said:
I would imagine the fact that a 335d is only available in an automatic would play a part as well.
Yep,a big part I would have thought...
330d's are auto only as well as the 335d....

Frio3535

596 posts

136 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Surrey has at least one in X drive form - my brother works for them.

Speed addicted

5,581 posts

228 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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BenjiS said:
wiliferus said:
Fast forward to 2017 and average Joe is driving a 300bhp Golf R, RS3s, and 300bhp diesels... more than a match for a 530d, V70 D5 et al. The stakes have been raised and Police vehicles are no longer as fit for purpose as they used to be.
Police helicopters however are perfectly fit for purpose.
You can't outrun radio, even if you manage to outpace the car behind you.

CRA1G

6,571 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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A900ss said:
330d's are auto only as well as the 335d....
I remember it was avalivle on the E90's.. shame not on the F30's then.. I love the engine for all round performance and economy,i average well over 50mpg in mine with 313BHP and little over 5sec 0.60.. what more do i need in a every day car. ? driving

Deendog

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168 posts

121 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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I remember reading a review of the escort cosworth. Apparently a patrol car stopped for a look. Passer by wryly noted that the escort looked a bit too quick for them. Officer muttered something about nothing outrunning the radio....

Ki3r

7,841 posts

160 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Monkeynut21 said:
I would imagine the fact that a 335d is only available in an automatic would play a part as well.
All apart from two of our traffic cars are automatic down here.

Greendubber

13,243 posts

204 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Ki3r said:
Monkeynut21 said:
I would imagine the fact that a 335d is only available in an automatic would play a part as well.
All apart from two of our traffic cars are automatic down here.
We have 330d XDrives, all auto.

ToothbrushMan

1,771 posts

126 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Phil Dicky said:
BenjiS said:
wiliferus said:
Fast forward to 2017 and average Joe is driving a 300bhp Golf R, RS3s, and 300bhp diesels... more than a match for a 530d, V70 D5 et al. The stakes have been raised and Police vehicles are no longer as fit for purpose as they used to be.
Police helicopters however are perfectly fit for purpose.
Plus on the whole a chase involving a Golf R would soon be called off, due to high speed easily achieved and perceived danger.
cough, cough.....other fast cars are available.

Elroy Blue

8,691 posts

193 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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BenjiS said:
Police helicopters however are perfectly fit for purpose.
Except NPAS exists in name only now. Huge areas of the country no longer have air support and those that do have severely restricted flight hours. Helicopters cannot lift to pre-position, we must be actual pursuit before they get authorisation, by which time it's too late.

The 3.0ds are more than adequate. If a car is out running it, then that means it's going at speeds which will result in the Officer being hung, drawn and quartered if their is a collision which results in serious injury. It simply isn't worth going at warp factor 10.

Our cars have uprated electrical systems and that's about it. No super duper brakes, shocks, engines. Totally standard.

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

264 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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ToothbrushMan said:
Phil Dicky said:
BenjiS said:
wiliferus said:
Fast forward to 2017 and average Joe is driving a 300bhp Golf R, RS3s, and 300bhp diesels... more than a match for a 530d, V70 D5 et al. The stakes have been raised and Police vehicles are no longer as fit for purpose as they used to be.
Police helicopters however are perfectly fit for purpose.
Plus on the whole a chase involving a Golf R would soon be called off, due to high speed easily achieved and perceived danger.
cough, cough.....other fast cars are available.
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C7 JFW

1,205 posts

220 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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330d, faster than 95% of the cars on the road out of the box.

Add a trained police driver with the correct level of training, faster than 99% of the cars on the road.

Username888

505 posts

202 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Just buy a scooter - they're not allowed to pursue those

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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C7 JFW said:
330d, faster than 95% of the cars on the road out of the box.

Add a trained police driver with the correct level of training, faster than 99% of the cars on the road.
And don't forget, people will move out of the way of Jonny Rozzer in his 330d when he has all the lights and sirens going, whereas Billy Criminal in his Golf R is going to have to make everyone move/swerve around them to make the same progress.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Elroy Blue said:
BenjiS said:
Police helicopters however are perfectly fit for purpose.
Except NPAS exists in name only now. Huge areas of the country no longer have air support and those that do have severely restricted flight hours. Helicopters cannot lift to pre-position, we must be actual pursuit before they get authorisation, by which time it's too late.

The 3.0ds are more than adequate. If a car is out running it, then that means it's going at speeds which will result in the Officer being hung, drawn and quartered if their is a collision which results in serious injury. It simply isn't worth going at warp factor 10.

Our cars have uprated electrical systems and that's about it. No super duper brakes, shocks, engines. Totally standard.
Which areas have no cover ?

Do you have a map ?

SirSamuelBuca

1,353 posts

158 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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SystemParanoia said:
Which areas have no cover ?

Do you have a map ?
just planning your getaway? biggrin

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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SirSamuelBuca said:
SystemParanoia said:
Which areas have no cover ?

Do you have a map ?
just planning your getaway? biggrin
when the SHTF.. its nice to know where to hide hehe

delta0

2,363 posts

107 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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wiliferus said:
Both about as useful as potatoes wink or am I being unfair to potatoes?

Yea, I'd suggest a x30d is useful in most situations. The problem is, high powered vehicles are much more popular and accessible to the masses than they used to be.

Going to back in the day when Police were smoking about in V8 Jags and Senators, only a handful of cars could outrun them in pursuit situations, and most crims were in Astra GTe's and XR3s. The Plod cars had a good shout and keeping up.

Fast forward to 2017 and average Joe is driving a 300bhp Golf R, RS3s, and 300bhp diesels... more than a match for a 530d, V70 D5 et al. The stakes have been raised and Police vehicles are no longer as fit for purpose as they used to be.
I've seen quite a lot of M135i unmarked cars. They will probably have M140i now.

Reffro

164 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Its always easier to be the chaser. Police drivers are trained to spot hazards etc etc, but they are no better than many other people when it comes down to the physical driving of the vehicles and they don't have to be...they are not racing and don't have to be faster/better driver than the person they are persuing, just be able to follow them safely.


nunpuncher

3,396 posts

126 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Shakermaker said:
And don't forget, people will move out of the way of Jonny Rozzer in his 330d when he has all the lights and sirens going, whereas Billy Criminal in his Golf R is going to have to make everyone move/swerve around them to make the same progress.
I regularly see police cars and especially ambulances being held up by tts completely oblivious to anything outside the little bubble of their car. No doubt sitting there in the outside lane at 60mph singing along to Justin Bieber at full volume with all their mirrors positioned at them so they can practice their selfie pout.