People changing lanes on m-ways in front of others

[ATG]

Sukh13 said:

stevemcs said:

Just poor driving, I had it on the M25 on Sunday a van indicated to come off at a junction and nearly took a merc out, he thought it was his fault but it was the mercs undertaking at a much higher speed.

Why was the car coming off in the overtaking lane if he wasn't travelling faster than the vehicles in the lane to the left?

Perhaps he'd been overtaking slower moving cars in lane 2 that should have been driving in lane 1? You see this quite a lot. Someone in a queue in lane 3 loses patience at the time it's taking the queue to overtake the MLMs in lane 2, so they cut across into lane 1 and blast up the inside and then often cut across lane 2 back into lane 3. MLMs are annoying. The pillocks who lose patience, weave around and overtake on the left are far, far worse than the MLMs.

[Griffith4ever]

MC Bodge said:

Miserablegit said:

MC Bodge said:

As somebody who indicates, checks mirrors and performs a shoulder check before changing lanes, this is not something that happens to me.

Do many people typically just not check beforehand? Do they not mind inconveniencing others? Do they not fear a collision? Is it just a complete lack of thought?

Mirror, signal, manoeuvre…Not signal, mirror, manoeuvre.

That was just a typo. I added the indicator bit afterwards. I mirror, signal, check mirrors again and performance a shoulder check before moving over.

Nb. I do not crawl alongside other cars if I can avoid it.

I drive competently and take an interest in the process.

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 7th May 11:21

Fair dos. Was purely curious as that is why sometimes I'll pull out quite forecefully.

I've, on several occasions, had vans purposefully speed up and "shut the door" when indicating to pull out - and I was approaching the car/truck in front at a decent lick. Hence I now just indicate and pull straight out. Had enough.

Glad to hear you are one of the ones on the "good" side.

[Alex_225]

I honestly think people don't care or they're two blinkered to notice. Also the, 'I'm indicating so it's my right of way' and then start moving.

I'm sure there are genuine mistakes. I'm usually very diligent with changing lanes and over the last 8-9 years have done the bulk of my driving on the motorway. That said, I did a very early morning drive and mistakenly went to change lanes far too close to a car. I realised immediately but I'd indicated and misjudged. I didn't move over and carried on but I'm sure my victim thought I was another moron. Lesson learned to be more careful when you're extremely tired and ideally avoid being that tired and driving.

[otolith]

I did M25/M40/M6 two Fridays ago, leaving at 4pm, and the M25 and first bit of the M40 were getting a bit Mad Max. I get that the lane hogging is frustrating, and sometimes you think "fk it" and just stay in your lane and pass them on the left, but there were a few cars really taking the piss and aggressively cutting round cars on the left and right - including one who decided to make use of the hard shoulder as well.

Obviously someone also cut across the hatched area here from about where that BMW on the left is positioned, but I seem to see at least one person do that one every single time I pass it when the traffic staying on the M25 is slow and the M4 exit is free flowing.

[Tycho]

Alex_225 said:

I honestly think people don't care or they're two blinkered to notice. Also the, 'I'm indicating so it's my right of way' and then start moving.

I'm sure there are genuine mistakes. I'm usually very diligent with changing lanes and over the last 8-9 years have done the bulk of my driving on the motorway. That said, I did a very early morning drive and mistakenly went to change lanes far too close to a car. I realised immediately but I'd indicated and misjudged. I didn't move over and carried on but I'm sure my victim thought I was another moron. Lesson learned to be more careful when you're extremely tired and ideally avoid being that tired and driving.

The amount of times I see someone coming up behind an HGV and slamming on when they are 20m away and travelling a lot faster makes me think that a lot of drivers only look about 50m in front of their bonnet. There is a complete lack of planning as witnessed when there is a hold up ahead and everyone slams on the brakes rather than ease off and keep a safe distance from the car in front.

[MC Bodge]

Tycho said:

The amount of times I see someone coming up behind an HGV and slamming on when they are 20m away and travelling a lot faster makes me think that a lot of drivers only look about 50m in front of their bonnet. There is a complete lack of planning as witnessed when there is a hold up ahead and everyone slams on the brakes rather than ease off and keep a safe distance from the car in front.

It is quite rare to be in a car with a driver who does those things well.

[Pica-Pica]

MC Bodge said:

Tycho said:

The amount of times I see someone coming up behind an HGV and slamming on when they are 20m away and travelling a lot faster makes me think that a lot of drivers only look about 50m in front of their bonnet. There is a complete lack of planning as witnessed when there is a hold up ahead and everyone slams on the brakes rather than ease off and keep a safe distance from the car in front.

It is quite rare to be in a car with a driver who does those things well.

Unless pressured by traffic volume, I try to keep a 3 second gap, and watch the traffic well ahead. You just then need the occasional lift-off of the throttle.

[Guybrush]

Griffith4ever said:

A question op. Do you overtake cars in lame 1 very slowly? I ask because although I now pretty much ignore middle lane dwellers, the one thing that is infuriating is mlms who very slowly approach and box you in when you are clearly catching up with the truck or car in front. I still indicate, but im fairly blunt with my pulling out these days. I ran out of patience some time ago.

Might not be you but curious.

I know what you mean, the box inners who don't have the brainpower to read ahead the developing situation.

[Otispunkmeyer]

Zephyr Speedshop said:

Griffith4ever said:

A question op. Do you overtake cars in lame 1 very slowly? I ask because although I now pretty much ignore middle lane dwellers, the one thing that is infuriating is mlms who very slowly approach and box you in when you are clearly catching up with the truck or car in front. I still indicate, but im fairly blunt with my pulling out these days. I ran out of patience some time ago.

Might not be you but curious.

this, does my head in. I regularly have the pleasure of the A3 and A34 in my van. which doesn't have the power to deal with them) and the number of people who will box you in with and insanely slow 1mph overtake is mad.

the other one is when you get someone in a hurry come flying up only for them to back off alongside you so you cant pull out behind them.

Yep, massively annoying to have people just hovering on your rear quarter, not going anywhere! st or get off the pot!!! If its me I always make a point to get past someone pretty sharpish if I can.

One thing I've noticed a lot more of, particularly if I take the time to start looking at people in their cars whilst I am sat waiting.... people looking into their laps. Its actually quite amazing how many do it and where they do it.

Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Tuesday 7th May 18:18

[TheK1981]

Driving standards in general are getting worse, someone I know has been caught 3 times using the phone behind the wheel, only once since its been 6 points, shes always complaining about how expensive her insurance is,

On topic, a few months ago we yet again turned up at work in the morning to a van off the road so me and another driver had to go and collect a van from another store, our vans are limited so ticking along the motorway in lane 1 at 56 mph on a quiet sunday morning a car was very slowing catching us, she got just past level - probably my front wheel and her rear wheel when she slowly started moving over, I braked and beeped which she then indicated, she then sat at 50, eventually I built up a bit of momentum and passed her in the middle lane, then about 200m ahead indicated and moved over, about 2 miles later shes slowing catching and then does the same thing,

Luckily we was close to a junction so I got off then back on the motorway and didnt see her again, being early Sunday we thought she was probably on the way home from a night out. We said about it to our manager when we got back but didnt hear anything else,

[Griffith4ever]

Guybrush said:

Griffith4ever said:

A question op. Do you overtake cars in lame 1 very slowly? I ask because although I now pretty much ignore middle lane dwellers, the one thing that is infuriating is mlms who very slowly approach and box you in when you are clearly catching up with the truck or car in front. I still indicate, but im fairly blunt with my pulling out these days. I ran out of patience some time ago.

Might not be you but curious.

I know what you mean, the box inners who don't have the brainpower to read ahead the developing situation.

I think the "boxer inners" are on cruise at 70 or whatever and nothing and nobody will move them from lane 2, and they ain't interrupting their cruise when they'll "eventually " get past anyhow :-)

[Skyedriver]

vikingaero said:

The current generation of drivers seem to think that once they are physically past the car in the next lane from where they are sitting in the car, then they can move over without any thought for the rest of the car from the B pillar rearwards.

Oh yes. For a while I was a postie on a bike on the Isle of Skye. Great in the winter but the summer!!!
Motorhomes and caravans driven by those who usually drive something like an old Micra.