RE: The PH Driving Challenge

RE: The PH Driving Challenge

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XJSJohn

15,970 posts

220 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Road_Terrorist said:


I'll probably buy a cheap car just to take part, we could have a banger challenge, fastest driver/car combo for under £500 or something, call it shed of the week showdown hehe



what i would do i think ... perhaps we could put together a list of all the "shed of the week's" and those that dont want to thrash the P&J can draw a shed from the bag, they then go find one and we can find out what realy is the best for under £500

i would be up for it!!

mini_ralf

7,245 posts

218 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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XJSJohn said:
Road_Terrorist said:


I'll probably buy a cheap car just to take part, we could have a banger challenge, fastest driver/car combo for under £500 or something, call it shed of the week showdown hehe



what i would do i think ... perhaps we could put together a list of all the "shed of the week's" and those that dont want to thrash the P&J can draw a shed from the bag, they then go find one and we can find out what realy is the best for under £500

i would be up for it!!


Count me in for that too

jim..c

833 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Sounds like fun. I'm tempted....driving

Pugsey

5,813 posts

215 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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havoc said:
zebedee said:
What you could see is whether you beat any other TTs, or what other cars did similar times to yours.

Which would be massively affected by tyres - someone on Pirellis would likely lap quicker than someone on Conti's (for example), and someone on older tyres will find they resist overheating more than someone with new rubber.

Without any sort of 'control', comparative lap-times are, IMHO, pretty pointless as regards anything except pub bragging rights.

This is an idea aimed at anyone who wants to see where they'd come on the TG 'leaderboard', as opposed to people who're interested in proper driver-training.
Rubbish. This is aimed at people who are up for a laugh. Good grief, lighten up - you're already whinging about tyres 'control' etc. Don't work in F1 by any chance? I'm up for it and given I'll be bringing my 997GT3 I reckon I'm setting myself up for a big fall but so what it's just a bit of fun. If I do well it'll be because of the car and tyres if I don't it'll be because I'm crap I suppose.

ade_g

91 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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havoc said:
This is an idea aimed at anyone who wants to see where they'd come on the TG 'leaderboard'.


Sounds ok to me.. just need to get hold of a CCX to do a proper comparison against 'The Stig'.

I'm defn up for this.. if only to up my interest in the star in a reasonably priced car section on TG. I give it 2 episodes of "I was much tidier through that section" before TG is banned in our house !

JonRB

74,855 posts

273 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Sod the PH leaderboard, I'd just want to see if I could do the lap faster than Terry Wogan in the Liana.

(Assuming the track layout is the same as the TG one, of course)

havoc

30,210 posts

236 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Pugsey said:
Good grief, lighten up
I'm just pointing out it's a gimmick, nothing more. The only difference is single-car on-circuit.

I'd far rather do a Ride&Drive day for twice the price but with probably 4x or more the attention from an instructor...and that includes an hour's airfield session.

Or a trackday for similar money but much more on-track time...and you can pay for instruction there too.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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I'm not sure where the instructor would fit on my bike.

PetrolTed

34,430 posts

304 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Plans' experience is that the drivers make more of a difference than the cars.

Hell, I'll sort out a session in my BM saloon just to set a benchmark.

jim..c

833 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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In which case I'll definately be down! When are you thinking of going?

snotrag

14,503 posts

212 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Sounds hilarious... but...

said:
perhaps we could put together a list of all the "shed of the week's" and those that dont want to thrash the P&J can draw a shed from the bag, they then go find one and we can find out what realy is the best for under £500


Hey, my ONLY car would just about fall into this category...!

I would love to try it though, when I get a new motor im very tempted to Just keep it, strip it, oil change, and take it to a couple of track days, and when it blows up, At least I've spent its worth on driving and not in thr pub.

Edited by snotrag on Thursday 9th November 20:32

Captain Beaky

1,389 posts

285 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Great idea and I'm sure not intended to be taken too seriously - I certainly won't be !

As long as there's a big space on the leader board for excuses...

pawsher

60 posts

229 months

Thursday 9th November 2006
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Id rather spend less money on all day open pit lane at oulton pk I know I'm getting more than six laps there.

zebedee

4,589 posts

279 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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Captain Beaky said:
Great idea and I'm sure not intended to be taken too seriously - I certainly won't be !

As long as there's a big space on the leader board for excuses...


people have started on the excuses already on here "more money = faster" "pirellis = faster"
etc etc

mugwump

3 posts

211 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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havoc said:
The only difference is single-car on-circuit.


Kind of compulsory on the TG track as it has a crossover that would pitch you head on into 2 of the fastest corners! eek

Not like they had an option really!

scoobiewrx

4,863 posts

227 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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It all sounds like great fun but £189 for two hours is a bit OTT. You can get a whole trackday for that at some proper circuits in the UK.

If you use one make of car everybody gets an equal opportunity to post comparable lap times and then it's purely down to the driver, otherwise it won't be fair in any way whatsoever and the leaderboard means bugger all. By all means use your own car for instruction and practice but when it comes to the real event it's got to be same car for everyone, whatever the car is.

As much as you say it's just a laugh and lighten up etc..., i'll bet there are plenty there with all sorts of awesome machinery that will look at this in a very competitive manner no matter what is said on this thread. When you are talking many thousands of pounds worth of exotic machinery on the track at any one time, and all eyes are on you only nobody wants to look a plonka and when it comes to posting lap times i don't think for one minute drivers will be viewing this as just a laugh.

I'm not a gloom and doom merchant and i sincerely hope everyone has fun on the day but i think there are better and fairer ways to do this imho.


Edited by scoobiewrx on Friday 10th November 09:48

eein

1,345 posts

266 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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Apart from the price I think it sounds like fun (note that Guildford is full of people with more money than sense, so I doubt they'll struggle for customers).

I'll seriously consider it as I live nearby. Only problem would be choosing which car to take - my Prelude vti would give a chance of a decent lap time and high-ish speeds (I know it would fall well short of proper sports cars) or the missus' '89 998 mini (40bhp, if I'm lucky) which is likely to have a higher fun factor (and there would be no shame ending up at the bottom of the leaderboard).

What's the make up of straights and twisties on the TG track compared to other uk tracks/airfields?

zebedee

4,589 posts

279 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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scoobiewrx said:
It all sounds like great fun but £189 for two hours is a bit OTT. You can get a whole trackday for that at some proper circuits in the UK.

If you use one make of car everybody gets an equal opportunity to post comparable lap times and then it's purely down to the driver, otherwise it won't be fair in any way whatsoever and the leaderboard means bugger all. By all means use your own car for instruction and practice but when it comes to the real event it's got to be same car for everyone, whatever the car is.

As much as you say it's just a laugh and lighten up etc..., i'll bet there are plenty there with all sorts of awesome machinery that will look at this in a very competitive manner no matter what is said on this thread. When you are talking many thousands of pounds worth of exotic machinery on the track at any one time, and all eyes are on you only nobody wants to look a plonka and when it comes to posting lap times i don't think for one minute drivers will be viewing this as just a laugh.

I'm not a gloom and doom merchant and i sincerely hope everyone has fun on the day but i think there are better and fairer ways to do this imho.


Edited by scoobiewrx on Friday 10th November 09:48


what is fair? Who cares about fair?

There are basically going to be two camps - those who go to have a laugh and those that are competitive. Either way, they will post a time and the time will in all probability be utterly meaningless to all but them.

I think it will be very interesting to see how it pans out, certainly more so than everyone in the same car - I don't care if "Jambo432_x" is quicker than "TimBob42" in a Suzuki Liana - that would be utterly boring to anyone.

Pub talk and bragging rights will win through in the end, the result will be someone can say to someone else who has done it "I drove my car faster than you could drive yours"

Meaningless, competitive, but hopefully, ultimately fun.

When does it all kick off?

MTv Dave

2,101 posts

257 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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FFS guys! Quit your fcensoredking whinging!

Ted's gone out of his way to sort this out and most of the posts about how unfair it might be.

If you can only pick holes in it don't fcensoredking enter - just fcensoredking get off your arses to sort one out for yourself, provide the cars, the venue, the time, and the tution for under 200 quid, and I'm we'll all sing your collective fcensoredling praises and hold you in high fcensoredling estime for ever and ever in our hearts!

:shakehead:
Moaning fcensoredkers!

Shadytree

8,291 posts

250 months

Friday 10th November 2006
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MTv Dave said:
FFS guys! Quit your fcensoredking whinging!

Ted's gone out of his way to sort this out and most of the posts about how unfair it might be.

If you can only pick holes in it don't fcensoredking enter - just fcensoredking get off your arses to sort one out for yourself, provide the cars, the venue, the time, and the tution for under 200 quid, and I'm we'll all sing your collective fcensoredling praises and hold you in high fcensoredling estime for ever and ever in our hearts!

:shakehead:
Moaning fcensoredkers!


touched a nerve there Dave ? hehe

yes well said though, fully agree.

I for one think it's a cracking idea, well done Ted for gettig the chance.