Most unrelieble car?
Discussion
mungo said:
badred said:
badred said:
If you have no idea what goes on under the bonnet of a car you should buy a piece of euroshit
Sorry if I touched a nerve Mungo
Whose nerve did you touch?
I can only see one person getting all emotional here
I think thats the problem, a lack of emotion and passion
badred said:
mungo said:
badred said:
badred said:
If you have no idea what goes on under the bonnet of a car you should buy a piece of euroshit
Sorry if I touched a nerve Mungo
Whose nerve did you touch?
I can only see one person getting all emotional here
I think thats the problem, a lack of emotion and passion
A good thread ruined by a tit.
I have owned only a handful of cars and all have gone wrong in their own little ways but the one that stands out is the Punto Mk2 - the coil pack gave up the ghost (as they do apparently) just before I went to pick my brother up miles and miles away at 2.30 am after a night out. He had to get a taxi. I was not happy.
I was also stranded on the end of the M62 (and I mean right at the end - J4 in Liverpool) when my Fiesta decided to shed all of its coolant at once. Nice. Oddly though, I still like the Fiesta.
I was also stranded on the end of the M62 (and I mean right at the end - J4 in Liverpool) when my Fiesta decided to shed all of its coolant at once. Nice. Oddly though, I still like the Fiesta.
My Clio's caused me more grief in almost 3 years of ownership (from new) than my old 1998 Punto which I kept for 5 years (still the most reliable car I've owned, and it's a Fiat...).
There isn't such a thing as the "most unreliable car" IMO. It's just your luck. I must've got a Friday afternoon car with my Clio as I know people wth the same model who've had zero problems. Although I still love it it's put me off buying another Renault.
There isn't such a thing as the "most unreliable car" IMO. It's just your luck. I must've got a Friday afternoon car with my Clio as I know people wth the same model who've had zero problems. Although I still love it it's put me off buying another Renault.
phil1979 said:
badred said:
mungo said:
badred said:
badred said:
If you have no idea what goes on under the bonnet of a car you should buy a piece of euroshit
Sorry if I touched a nerve Mungo
Whose nerve did you touch?
I can only see one person getting all emotional here
I think thats the problem, a lack of emotion and passion
A good thread ruined by a tit.
yes and he drives a digger
Most unreliable car was a later model Ford Scorpio (it narrowly beats an Audi A4 Tdi in this regard which holds the record for the number of times it left its driver stranded by the side of the road)
In the 14 months, 25k miles we ran the Scorpio it needed:
1 x new engine
2 x new gearbox
1 x cruise control unit ( a fire in the unit whilst on the M6 locked the first one in place at 80mph, making stopping a bit hair raising)
2 x aircom compressors
1 x ABS unit
6 x sets brake discs
1 x exhaust
1 x cylincer head stud replacement (on the second engine)
Plus we got through loads of electrical gremlins, a sunroof that was so leaky it was a joke and seats that collapsed.
In the end (and after many many phone calls with Ford, multiple dealers and several "last chances" we gave it back to Ford and refused to continue the lease. We drove it to a main dealer, parked it in their yard, handed the keys in and stopped making payments. 6 months later Ford sent us a letter asking for the lease payments. We pointed out that we no longer had the car and it was at xxxxx dealer last time we saw it. Ford phoned to say they had spoken to the dealer and the car was not there! I drove down to the dealer, and there, in the corner where I had left it, covered in bird crap and full to the sills with water was the Scorpio! I phoned Ford on my mobile and told them I was standing next to their car. 5 minutes later the dealership manager came out and said I could go. We never heard a thing again!
Andy
Now I drive an MG ZTT and its practically faultless in nearly 90k miles
I own a TVR 400 wedge too, and thats a nice reliable car!
In the 14 months, 25k miles we ran the Scorpio it needed:
1 x new engine
2 x new gearbox
1 x cruise control unit ( a fire in the unit whilst on the M6 locked the first one in place at 80mph, making stopping a bit hair raising)
2 x aircom compressors
1 x ABS unit
6 x sets brake discs
1 x exhaust
1 x cylincer head stud replacement (on the second engine)
Plus we got through loads of electrical gremlins, a sunroof that was so leaky it was a joke and seats that collapsed.
In the end (and after many many phone calls with Ford, multiple dealers and several "last chances"
we gave it back to Ford and refused to continue the lease. We drove it to a main dealer, parked it in their yard, handed the keys in and stopped making payments. 6 months later Ford sent us a letter asking for the lease payments. We pointed out that we no longer had the car and it was at xxxxx dealer last time we saw it. Ford phoned to say they had spoken to the dealer and the car was not there! I drove down to the dealer, and there, in the corner where I had left it, covered in bird crap and full to the sills with water was the Scorpio! I phoned Ford on my mobile and told them I was standing next to their car. 5 minutes later the dealership manager came out and said I could go. We never heard a thing again! Andy
Now I drive an MG ZTT and its practically faultless in nearly 90k miles
I own a TVR 400 wedge too, and thats a nice reliable car!
Edited by andymadmak on Wednesday 15th November 09:02
Fruitcake said:
I have owned only a handful of cars and all have gone wrong in their own little ways but the one that stands out is the Punto Mk2
Ha! That just reinforces what I said above - it really is just your luck. I must've been lucky with my (mk1) Punto, because in all honesty I guess Fruitcake's experience of a Punto is more common that mine.
Mine would be my MR2 - wouldn't start in wet until I replaced the dizzy cap and all the leads, after going through 4 cans of WD40. Wheel arches rusted, rear calipers seized up, blew the engine at 128k following a head gasket failure and a dodgy temp gauge. Then the bonnet mechanism failed on a country lane, so the bonnet popped up, smashed the windscreen and gave the missus kittens. Insurance company wrote it off after that...
My MG B is pretty reliable (electronic ignition, so it always starts bar last week grrr), but I spend a fortune on it every MOT as I find another bit that needs welding somewhere. The only original pieces of bodywork left on the thing are the bonnet and the bootlid and the bit behind the seats... I bought the car for £3k in 97, have spent best part of £13/4k on it over the years and it's still only worth mebbe 6-7 grand.
My MG B is pretty reliable (electronic ignition, so it always starts bar last week grrr), but I spend a fortune on it every MOT as I find another bit that needs welding somewhere. The only original pieces of bodywork left on the thing are the bonnet and the bootlid and the bit behind the seats... I bought the car for £3k in 97, have spent best part of £13/4k on it over the years and it's still only worth mebbe 6-7 grand.
badred said:
Its very sad that you lot have nothing better to do than pull the TVR Wedge, a classic BRITISH sport car, to bits. They are not a eurobox and need to be looked after by someone who knows about them, like anything mechanical they work far better when operated by someone who has taken the time to understands how they work. If you have no idea what goes on under the bonnet of a car you should buy a piece of euroshit or a riceburner and let someone else worry about the oily bits, which, looking at you profiles is exactly what most of you have done. There is 300 odd highly skilled people out of work in Blackpool partly due to adverse comments made by people who know feck all.
I'm sure for every lemon of a 350, TVR made a decent one (and that's giving them a huge benefit of doubt). It's the very fact I'm a complete petrolhead that meant I ignored the 350's poor reputation, bit the bullet and actually bought one (thereby supporting TVR and it's component suppliers). I tried to put up with it's foibles, you know, losing all power on fast dual carriageways (that's always a laugh), never running smoothly for more that two days in a row. Oh, and it leaked so much that the interior was like a sauna. Good job it had a great demisting system that cleared the windows so I could see out.......oh no, it didn't.
Even when trying to sell the damn thing, it was spitting flames out the exhaust due to.........well, God knows really. The bloody thing wouldn't go over 2500rpm, coughing and spluttering. But you know what, the guy on the test drive came back and bought it. One born every minute. I'm proof positive of that.
I so wanted to love that car, but it had to go.
Both my Westfields broke down on the way home from picking them up but you kind of accept that with cars like that.
Most dissappointing car was a Rover 220 GTi. It was my first *cough* performance car and it came very close to bankrupting me. I'm probably forgetting a few things but I can remember that in 12 months of ownership:
2 Head gaskets
Gearbox
Backbox
2 callipers
Permanent oil leak
Sheared thread in head so the exhaust manifold permanently ticked.
Immobiliser broke and had to be binned
New alarm required
Horn
Wheel Bearings
Various electrical gremlins
You get the idea. Thats about £3-4k's worth of work in 12000 miles on a car I paid £900 for. To top it off, it was a crap drive that was intent on introducing me to every hedge we went past, backwards. Having said that, the Golf 1.8T I replaced it with wasn't the paragon of reliability I was led to beleive...
Most dissappointing car was a Rover 220 GTi. It was my first *cough* performance car and it came very close to bankrupting me. I'm probably forgetting a few things but I can remember that in 12 months of ownership:
2 Head gaskets
Gearbox
Backbox
2 callipers
Permanent oil leak
Sheared thread in head so the exhaust manifold permanently ticked.
Immobiliser broke and had to be binned
New alarm required
Horn
Wheel Bearings
Various electrical gremlins
You get the idea. Thats about £3-4k's worth of work in 12000 miles on a car I paid £900 for. To top it off, it was a crap drive that was intent on introducing me to every hedge we went past, backwards. Having said that, the Golf 1.8T I replaced it with wasn't the paragon of reliability I was led to beleive...
I have had my 89 350i for over 2 years
run regularly and never had a problem
Also it doesn't leak at all(which my MG did)
I am selling it next spring, but only to buy a 400SE.
There is nothing to beat the V8 roar of the Wedges
The Wedge "The most fun you can have with your pants on"
PS Worst cars owned - Renault 5 Turbo needed 8 clutch cables
in first 2000 miles ( 1 lasted only 11 miles) &
current car Vectra SRi 150 - Had complete new engine at 30000 mls
under warranty as cam shaft snapped
run regularly and never had a problem
Also it doesn't leak at all(which my MG did)
I am selling it next spring, but only to buy a 400SE.
There is nothing to beat the V8 roar of the Wedges
The Wedge "The most fun you can have with your pants on"
PS Worst cars owned - Renault 5 Turbo needed 8 clutch cables
in first 2000 miles ( 1 lasted only 11 miles) &
current car Vectra SRi 150 - Had complete new engine at 30000 mls
under warranty as cam shaft snapped
badred said:
Top Trump said:
badred said:
Top Trump said:
Some of us like fast cars that perform on a daily basis.
Sorry mr Trump just been looking at you profile
Glad you like it
Ivan just looked again ... 310 horses
nice, respect 
I had it on a rolling road a few months ago and it made 310 fairly easily. It could make 320-330 but that would be at the limits of the standard turbo.
It's just a question of unleashing the latent power that lies within. At factory spec they put out around 240-250 bhp, though some make more. There are a few compromises that Toyota incorporate into the package that just need to be removed, i.e, breathing restrictions and ecu and boost settings. Once you get an aggresive map into the mix with good boost and cooling, it is very fast. The 3S-GTE lump has a Yamaha head so revs very nicely and with said modifications it becomes a bit of animal.
Los Angeles said:
Austin Allegro. 
According to JD Power today's "Most Unreliable" is ... the Ford Focus.
According to JD Power today's "Most Unreliable" is ... the Ford Focus.Sorry, but you will have to enlighten me on this one. I can't find anything that says what you've stated.
This is the same Ford Focus that won the 2002 German TUV most reliable car in Germany. Admittedly the North American Focus had problems with it's first year of production but has almost completely reversed this. The European Focus has been exemplary.
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