The most refined car in the world .........ever!

The most refined car in the world .........ever!

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Kentish

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15,169 posts

236 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Kentish said:
Good call on the Citroen C6.

My old boss yrs ago had a 1985 Daimler and I went with him to a couple of sites and that car was beautifully refined - like a magic carpet!

Not sure of the model now as I saw it as an old chaps car in those days wink
That's the one above, was the same as the XJ12 series 3 Jag - had the pepper pot alloys.

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Fidgits

17,202 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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I had a Lexus LS430 for a day...


It was like driving in a bath, so soothing and relaxing, but surprisingly you could chuck it around a bit, but it was bloody big!

richardxjr

7,561 posts

212 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Ashley1111 said:
Driven them all. Merc S320/500/600/55/63, Merc CLS 320/55/63, BMW 730D/730LD/745Li, Lexus LS600, Maybach 57, Range Rover Vogue TD6/TDV8/4.4/4.2 SC, Bentley Continental GT/Flying Spur, Arnage 4.4/6.75/Turbo Mulliner etc etc and the best without a shadow of a doubt for effortless wafting is definitely the Rolls Royce Phantom saloon. (Not the Drophead coupe though - thats more focused and stiffer)You cant hear the engine, the steering is light but not too light, the seats are extremely comfotable and build quality is bullet proof, everything is hidden away out of sight and they are amusingly rapid in a straight line....

Pleanty of other cars have more toys etc (S Class and Maybach in particular) but they are nowhere near as special a place to be. All in my opinion of course!!
In the real world? (Recent cars you can buy for <£20k) I reckon, just on what I've read on here of course, Lexus LS430? Or is it the Bangle 7?

RicksAlfas

13,432 posts

246 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Garlick said:
Citroen C6 can hold it's head up there too smile
I'm convinced one of these could be the ultimate stress buster for the daily commute.
They look really good too.
However I have been taking a lot of Lemsip Max recently...

evenflow

8,790 posts

284 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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The Bangle 7 doesn't ride as well as the S-class of the same era IMHO. It seems to have more "sporty" pretensions and has a harder, less wafty ride.

The Continental Flying Spur would get my vote for the waftiest of them all.

Kentish

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15,169 posts

236 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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RicksAlfas said:
Garlick said:
Citroen C6 can hold it's head up there too smile
I'm convinced one of these could be the ultimate stress buster for the daily commute.
They look really good too.
However I have been taking a lot of Lemsip Max recently...
I agree, they look great and have that citroen unique charm in their styling like Citroens used to have during my youth.

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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LS430 or even an LS400 if you want cheap silent motoring.

Other than that I have no trouble having conference calls in the Phaeton. (handsfree Mr Officer...)


richardxjr

7,561 posts

212 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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evenflow said:
The Bangle 7 doesn't ride as well as the S-class of the same era IMHO. It seems to have more "sporty" pretensions and has a harder, less wafty ride.
Shame. Is it harder than the E38? The E38 740 I had was very refined... much more so than the X300 Jag.

Kentish

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15,169 posts

236 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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richardxjr said:
evenflow said:
The Bangle 7 doesn't ride as well as the S-class of the same era IMHO. It seems to have more "sporty" pretensions and has a harder, less wafty ride.
Shame. Is it harder than the E38? The E38 740 I had was very refined... much more so than the X300 Jag.
Now, that's impressive!

wadgebeast

3,856 posts

213 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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shouldbworking said:


XJ12 series 3. Surely that has to win
I can't believe it took so long to come up. Apart from the lack of rear leg room, XJ Jaguars define wafting.

williamp

19,293 posts

275 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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I believe the Maybach has it, although I've never seen one/been in one/ met anyone who wons one to know different.

How does the Phantom compare?

evenflow

8,790 posts

284 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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richardxjr said:
evenflow said:
The Bangle 7 doesn't ride as well as the S-class of the same era IMHO. It seems to have more "sporty" pretensions and has a harder, less wafty ride.
Shame. Is it harder than the E38? The E38 740 I had was very refined... much more so than the X300 Jag.
Can't comment on that I'm afraid, never been in one.

LHDisbest

17,001 posts

189 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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shouldbworking said:


XJ12 series 3. Surely that has to win
+1

Only problem with the XJ12 was it was so quiet, if you farted the leather would ripple and everyone would know you did it, but good god its quick. I can only wonder what it would be like if it wasn't saddled with a 3sp gearbox.

Bentley Brooklands (Old one) - I WILL own a mulsanne bodied Bentley, just a fantastic car. You never want to go back to a pleb wagon ever again.

Bristol Blenheim - So deliciously oddball, built like no other car, never driven one but been a passenger. Just magical. But a bit severe near £200k price tag, but worth every penny IMO.



shipley

266 posts

257 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Try a Volkswagon Phaeton.

A Bentley in the wrong clothes....and one hell of a bargain at the moment.


p1esk

4,914 posts

198 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Kentish said:
What floats along and is virtually silent inside - possibly a Lexus, Maybach, Merc S class?

I had a run of mill 406 saloon once and that had a great ride and was really quite inside - when making phone calls people at the other end often thought I was at home or work smile

I've been in some of the current E class Mercs and I was surprised at how much road noise was evident inside.

What have you driven that sent your passengers to sleep? wink
A Jaguar Sovereign HE - 5.3 litre V12. 'Tis some years ago now, but one of my passengers nodded off as we wafted along the A64 Malton by-pass at 120 mph in that car. I don't do that sort of thing now though; lack of suitable car, y'see, otherwise yes

We now have a Peugeot 406 HDi - which to my mind is nothing special in refinement terms - but it's adequately pleasant for long journeys at fairly brisk speeds, and some of my recent passengers have remarked that the car is very smooth and comfortable to travel in, which is nice. It's just a shame that so little of the credit accrues to the exquisite skill and finesse of Le Conducteur though. frown

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Garlick

40,601 posts

242 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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shipley said:
Try a Volkswagon Phaeton.

A Bentley in the wrong clothes....and one hell of a bargain at the moment.
Not a Phaeton I know (which I have a lot of respect for) but I have the use of a Flying Spur this coming weekend. It's been a while since I have steered a luxury car so I am really looking forward to seeing if it lives up to my high expectations.

No doubt someone will come along soon and tell me it's not a real Bentley smile

richardxjr

7,561 posts

212 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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shipley said:
Try a Volkswagon Phaeton.

A Bentley in the wrong clothes....and one hell of a bargain at the moment.
I liked the sound of these, until I read DeR's underwhelming review of one he had a go in.

I'm sure he said LS430 & 7er had the edge over the VW.


shipley

266 posts

257 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Its worth a go.... even if its only to see the pleading tears of the salesman as he desperately tries to persuade you to buy one....

oggs

8,813 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Garlick said:
I have the use of a Flying Spur this coming weekend. It's been a while since I have steered a luxury car so I am really looking forward to seeing if it lives up to my high expectations.
I could give it a second opinion a week later if it is free biggrinwhistle

Kentish

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15,169 posts

236 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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LHDisbest said:
shouldbworking said:


XJ12 series 3. Surely that has to win
+1

Only problem with the XJ12 was it was so quiet, if you farted the leather would ripple and everyone would know you did it, but good god its quick. I can only wonder what it would be like if it wasn't saddled with a 3sp gearbox.

Bentley Brooklands (Old one) - I WILL own a mulsanne bodied Bentley, just a fantastic car. You never want to go back to a pleb wagon ever again.

Bristol Blenheim - So deliciously oddball, built like no other car, never driven one but been a passenger. Just magical. But a bit severe near £200k price tag, but worth every penny IMO.
I have always loved those old Jag XJ's cloud9