CG Locks

[John D.]

Mannginger said:

Not used on the track but great for fast road driving as there are no mobility limitations (as with say a full harness).

True, but it does'nt hold you in place anything like a full harness either. The feel when wearing a CG Lock and a 4-point harness is not even comparable IMO.

[jarnold88]

Kucho said:

I've got one and was wondering the other day what the pretensioner would do to my hips if I crashed with it tightened up when sitting in pretty firm bucket seats...

As far as I'm aware, pre-tensioners are not an issue as they only put out a certain amount of pressure, but the best bet is to contact Graham on thier website as he will have all the answers for you.

Cheers

J

[jarnold88]

John D. said:

Mannginger said:

Not used on the track but great for fast road driving as there are no mobility limitations (as with say a full harness).

True, but it does'nt hold you in place anything like a full harness either. The feel when wearing a CG Lock and a 4-point harness is not even comparable IMO.

a full harness will cost a lot more and if you drive your car on the road with a harness on you will find it a huge strugle to lean forward at junctions as most people do to look around, also they are a lot easier to use than a herness with regards to getting in an out of your seat.

So they are a lot more practical.

J

Edited by jarnold88 on Tuesday 3rd November 12:13

[John D.]

jarnold88 said:

John D. said:

Mannginger said:

Not used on the track but great for fast road driving as there are no mobility limitations (as with say a full harness).

True, but it does'nt hold you in place anything like a full harness either. The feel when wearing a CG Lock and a 4-point harness is not even comparable IMO.

a full harness will cost a lot more and if you drive your car on the road with a harness on you will find it a huge strugle to lean forward at junctions as most people do to look around, also they are a lot easier to use than a herness with regards to getting in an out of your seat.

So they are a lot more practical.

J

Edited by jarnold88 on Tuesday 3rd November 12:13

My point being it does feck all compared to a harness.

Edited by John D. on Tuesday 3rd November 12:19

[jarnold88]

John D. said:

jarnold88 said:

John D. said:

Mannginger said:

Not used on the track but great for fast road driving as there are no mobility limitations (as with say a full harness).

True, but it does'nt hold you in place anything like a full harness either. The feel when wearing a CG Lock and a 4-point harness is not even comparable IMO.

a full harness will cost a lot more and if you drive your car on the road with a harness on you will find it a huge strugle to lean forward at junctions as most people do to look around, also they are a lot easier to use than a herness with regards to getting in an out of your seat.

So they are a lot more practical.

J

Edited by jarnold88 on Tuesday 3rd November 12:13

My point being it does feck all compared to a harness.

Edited by John D. on Tuesday 3rd November 12:19

Not feck all, it keeps your hips still and therefor you dont stabalise yourself with your legs, so you can use them more effectively on the pedals, the only advantage you get from a herness is upper body restraint.

J

[PhilipAlfa]

jarnold88 said:

PhilipAlfa said:

I've got a mk1 CG Lock which is very good at stopping me sliding around. What's new and improved on the mk 2?

it has a wider plate, so you know when it sticks sometimes when sliding it, the new one is a lot less likely, it has a longer lever on it so its a bit easier to use but the main thing is the weight difference, its a hell of a lot lighter!

J

Thanks. Sounds like they have fixed the 2 biggest (and to be fair only) problems with it.

[vdubbin]

Another CG lock fan here, bought a pair for TDs in the Ignis Sport, transferred them the mx5, and they remain one of the best upgrades I've ever invested in. Depending on how tight you ratchet them, they will either keep you in a proper position , which makes long triips easier, or you can pin yourself right in, allowing you to move the seat a little closer to the pedals, which I find useful in track driving. It also stops me sliding about on the leather seat.

Every time I get into my van I feel like I'm perched on a rather tall, slippery bench rather than a seat.

the only downside is trying to teach new passengers how to use it, most people have never seen one before, and the cam lever isn't as conveniently located when fitted on a left hand side seat.

Edited by vdubbin on Tuesday 3rd November 12:37

[JonRB]

I had a couple of Mk1's which I bought via Goldtrack but they failed to fit either my Corrado or my Chimaera. I gave them back at the next Goldtrack track day I was at and left it that they should take the money off my next track day.

I really must get round to doing another track day.

[John D.]

jarnold88 said:

John D. said:

jarnold88 said:

John D. said:

Mannginger said:

Not used on the track but great for fast road driving as there are no mobility limitations (as with say a full harness).

True, but it does'nt hold you in place anything like a full harness either. The feel when wearing a CG Lock and a 4-point harness is not even comparable IMO.

a full harness will cost a lot more and if you drive your car on the road with a harness on you will find it a huge strugle to lean forward at junctions as most people do to look around, also they are a lot easier to use than a herness with regards to getting in an out of your seat.

So they are a lot more practical.

J

Edited by jarnold88 on Tuesday 3rd November 12:13

My point being it does feck all compared to a harness.

Edited by John D. on Tuesday 3rd November 12:19

Not feck all, it keeps your hips still and therefor you dont stabalise yourself with your legs, so you can use them more effectively on the pedals, the only advantage you get from a herness is upper body restraint.

J

Which is not a lot compared to a harness.

We seem to be arguing semantics here so I'll leave you to it

[Godzilla]

JonRB said:

I had a couple of Mk1's which I bought via Goldtrack but they failed to fit either my Corrado or my Chimaera. I gave them back at the next Goldtrack track day I was at and left it that they should take the money off my next track day.

I really must get round to doing another track day.

So you had fitment issues too? Strange that both the cars I've tried it on haven't worked. It's not as if the buckles were an unusual design?

[Mannginger]

John D. said:

jarnold88 said:

John D. said:

Mannginger said:

Not used on the track but great for fast road driving as there are no mobility limitations (as with say a full harness).

True, but it does'nt hold you in place anything like a full harness either. The feel when wearing a CG Lock and a 4-point harness is not even comparable IMO.

a full harness will cost a lot more and if you drive your car on the road with a harness on you will find it a huge strugle to lean forward at junctions as most people do to look around, also they are a lot easier to use than a herness with regards to getting in an out of your seat.

So they are a lot more practical.

J

Edited by jarnold88 on Tuesday 3rd November 12:13

My point being it does feck all compared to a harness.

I won't disagree with you on that, but it's a very decent compromise for road use...better than nothing but not as good as a full race harness for holding you in place. On the flipside it allows the freedom of movement to drive safely on the roads.

[spitfire4v8]

Ive tried a few of these in the past, in fact i used to sell them. I was left unimpressed .. they do hold the bottom part of you in place when tight, but all the ones i tried would relax the belt tension after a couple of laps, having to constantly pull the belt through to tighten it again was a chore every couple of laps and in the end i just gave up on them and stopped selling them. Probably worth a punt at 40 pounds but dont expect to be overwhelmed by it.

[JonRB]

Godzilla said:

JonRB said:

I had a couple of Mk1's which I bought via Goldtrack but they failed to fit either my Corrado or my Chimaera. I gave them back at the next Goldtrack track day I was at and left it that they should take the money off my next track day.

I really must get round to doing another track day.

So you had fitment issues too? Strange that both the cars I've tried it on haven't worked. It's not as if the buckles were an unusual design?

Yup. With the Corrado it worked but due to long buckle in that car the CG-Lock dug into my side which was
a) uncomfortable and b) possibly dangerous.

On the Chimaera, the belt is the double-loop arrangement that the CG-Lock specifically says it is not compatible with. Apparently it can be made to work with minor modification and fitting it upside-down but I didn't fancy doing that. Besides, I had no intention of taking the Chimaera on track as I've spent a lot of money on the Corrado making it a road & track car. I have a set of removable Schroth harnesses for the Corrado now.

Edited by JonRB on Tuesday 3rd November 14:18

[benny.c]

I found them pretty good in the Mustang when it had the big leather seats. As soon as I swapped to a tilting bucket type seat I didn't see much benefit and took them off. My biggest complaint would be that the sliding bar comes off too easily when the lock isn't engaged. Sometimes you don't want to be locked in and the bar pings off in this situation. Maybe the newer model has fixed this?

[monthefish]

I find that my CG lock doesn't always stay attached to the seatbelt buckle very well, and you can't tighten due to the fact it is a tiny sized allen key required (deliberate perhaps?)

Anyone else get this with theirs?

[monthefish]

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[Defcon5]

Just get a tiny Allen key?

[monthefish]

Thanks.
It comes with the required tiny allen key. The problem is the allen key is about 1mm (literally) and therefore there is a (very low) limit to how much torque can be applied to it without it bending or breaking.