RE: BMW Bits For New Seven-Style Roadster

RE: BMW Bits For New Seven-Style Roadster

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hornetrider

63,161 posts

207 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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The Donster said:
This is likely to sound quite pedantic, but if you're going to take yourself seriously in this business at least use 4 matching tyres on your demo......
Good spot!

toys

241 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Interesting and exciting engine choice, but what a shame its not wrapped in a swoopy G27 type body, as opposed to a generic 7-esque shape.

BoRED S2upid

19,791 posts

242 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Very very interesting. 3 series BM's are plentiful and cheap sort of like Sierras were 10 years ago. This could have legs.

raceboy

13,151 posts

282 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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hornetrider said:
The Donster said:
This is likely to sound quite pedantic, but if you're going to take yourself seriously in this business at least use 4 matching tyres on your demo......
Good spot!
And with Anorak fully zipped up...to me they look like M3 rep wheels, and not real M3 ones, the writing on the wheels should say BMW as well as Motorsport, or no writing at all, and the rears should be wider. paperbag

getmecoat

J4CKO

41,805 posts

202 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I think the six cylinder diesel would be the wrong engine for a seven type thing, huuuge torque, delivered in one lump probably without the electronics to reign it in, light weight would be a recipe for disaster or a very frustrating car, Small light cars need revvy engines with a lenear deliver, hence the Vauxhall Redtops, Zetecs and the like, a tuned Redtop makes it a handful !

What works in a near two tonne saloon wont work in here, not sure about the BMW sixes, weight wise they are quite heavy but the delivery is quite gentle, no big step in torque.

Could be done very cheaply as well, sounds like a plan.

theJT

316 posts

187 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I want this. Badly. The old e36 has been much maligned for being a bit lardy, but they really are cheap as chips now, and in a package like this nearly 200 horse of straight six is going to just fly!

MarJay

2,173 posts

177 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Somebody mentioned the weight of the BMW straight six engine... Well the 130i straight six is supposed to be the lightest six cylinder engine around at the moment...

Edit: just noticed the clocks still have the BMW 'Econo-meter' on them! laugh

Edited by MarJay on Tuesday 8th December 12:20


Edited by MarJay on Tuesday 8th December 12:20

illmonkey

18,284 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I reckon that'll be a bit slippy, with the only rear directional on the wrong way and all...

Edited by illmonkey on Tuesday 8th December 12:23

900T-R

20,404 posts

259 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Now that's a rather better idea for a single donor vehicle kit than a Sierra (or an MX5 for that matter because that's a briliant little sports car in its own right that gets rather uglier when it's being reborn as a Westfield)...

robm3

4,930 posts

229 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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MarJay said:
Somebody mentioned the weight of the BMW straight six engine... Well the 130i straight six is supposed to be the lightest six cylinder engine around at the moment...
Didn't BMW make a song and dance about the new M3 V8 being lighter than the old straight 6.... :strokeschin:

Actually, having had three of the old M3's 6's it's a brilliant motor! If it's got the induction roar my CSL had, and no reason to think otherwise, then it'll be lovely to hear. Quite a 'peaky' motor too so maybe nice in a 7.
Now fingers crossed the chassis and set up matches a Caterham.

900T-R

20,404 posts

259 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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robm3 said:
Now fingers crossed the chassis and set up matches a Caterham.
Sounds like a tall order - tyres apart, putting heavy rep wheels on a lightweight car isn't a promising start. But as a low cost, single donor kit it can still work out brilliantly - most of the kits at the cheaper do a disservice to themselves by sticking with obsolete and/or obscure donor cars while at the same time scrappies and forecourts are full of rather better mid/late '90s technology for peanuts.

Edited by 900T-R on Tuesday 8th December 12:33

raceboy

13,151 posts

282 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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MarJay said:
just noticed the clocks still have the BMW 'Econo-meter' on them! laugh
So they didn't come out an M3 either then....M3 clocks have an oil gauge there. paperbag

Hunky Dory

1,050 posts

207 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Wasn't this suggested by someone in the Kit Car forums a few weeks ago...? scratchchin

Inside info, or just coincidence? Either way it seems like a good idea to me.

Rob Crutch

232 posts

192 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I'm sure there is (or was until recently) another kit car company who used the BMW I6 (maybe a lot more of the car too) but forget what it is - I know my brother's neighbor wanted to do one and discussed it at length with him.

tim2100

6,282 posts

259 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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raceboy said:
hornetrider said:
The Donster said:
This is likely to sound quite pedantic, but if you're going to take yourself seriously in this business at least use 4 matching tyres on your demo......
Good spot!
And with Anorak fully zipped up...to me they look like M3 rep wheels, and not real M3 ones, the writing on the wheels should say BMW as well as Motorsport, or no writing at all, and the rears should be wider. paperbag

getmecoat
Possibly they are showing it can be built up from a single doner car, complete with non matching tyres when the car was brought.

soad

32,974 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Love that dashboard! Very cool project.

TISPKJ

3,651 posts

209 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Rob Crutch said:
I'm sure there is (or was until recently) another kit car company who used the BMW I6 (maybe a lot more of the car too) but forget what it is - I know my brother's neighbor wanted to do one and discussed it at length with him.
The Germans do a kit car thingy called the weissman or something similar that uses M3 stuff and looks like the old austin healey 3000 from memory.

Seen many times at Geneva show, lovely but £50k or something daft !!!!

TISPKJ

3,651 posts

209 months

tombstone

202 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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rolleyes and I've just gone and bought a Zetec engined Locust... sob.... never mind.. maybe next year!!

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

263 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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MarJay said:
Hm Quick bit of maths. 192bhp 325i engine... 525kg ish... 192 / 0.525 = 365bhp per ton.

That could be fun. Don't tempt me please please!
A caterham with a K series weighs in at 520, I seriously doubt you'd get this under 600kg yes

It's still a great idea, certainly as a Sunday blast car, and as everyone says a massive advance from a sierra