Murder by screw

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Deva Link

26,934 posts

247 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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The Crack Fox said:
Deva Link said:
This won't work in the future, when TPS is mandatory.
Well the technology had better improve then, it's hardly the most reliable technology ...
EU just made it mandatory on new cars from Nov 2011.

MidlandDan84

588 posts

180 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Sad story, if its true, but its surprising what people will do when their life is ruined by anti-social behaviour.

TEKNOPUG

19,046 posts

207 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Deva Link said:
The Crack Fox said:
Deva Link said:
This won't work in the future, when TPS is mandatory.
Well the technology had better improve then, it's hardly the most reliable technology ...
EU just made it mandatory on new cars from Nov 2011.
Throttle Positioning Sensors are to be made mandatory confused

poo at Paul's

14,210 posts

177 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Always good to remember that no matter how retarded one wants to act, there could always be someone who wants to "out tard" you.


RobbieB

7,715 posts

185 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Did anyone else think this was going to be a thread about a murder in prison?

I'm not even sure what to think about this. Just imagine if people were racing down a road near you at 80mph and you had kids/pets etc. No doubt the police ignored complaints, so I can see how someone would be pushed to this. However, it was a rather stupid idea.

Buzz word

2,028 posts

211 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Dupont666 said:
So he knew there was a screw in his tyre as he pulled to the side of the road with it in and then went off like a bat out of hell and crashed?
An alternate view point may be that these were lined up along the side of the road and were not noticed by the driver. The person taking the photo's seemingly noticed them and made the assumption they were linked to the crash. If they were in different groups there is no reason to suspect that just because the photographer was aware that the driver would also be aware. I would also suspect that unless the photographer went picking through the wreck that there is no actual proof that the screw did cause the accident. It just seems circumstantial that there were screws in the road and a crash. Knowledge by any party that they were causal is only implied.

I tried to look at the road on google maps but cant because of flash at work. The road is depicted on the map as a dual carridge way 'A' road. If the crash was truely at 80 and late at night I'm not even sure I think that is too silly on the face of it either. I cant see the road properly though but if that is the case I don't think thats racing even, I bet comuters do that.

Whatever the reason It's a shame some people have ended up very hurt.

Munter

31,319 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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AndrewW-G said:
Story sounds like something out of a bad chain email, until one of the big news sites reports on it, my 2p is on it being BS
What he said. Sounds like the sort of thing someone would send round to see if it encourages someone to glue screws to the road.

saladdodger

347 posts

168 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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AndrewW-G said:
Story sounds like something out of a bad chain email, until one of the big news sites reports on it, my 2p is on it being BS
good point, cant find it either

Dupont666

21,613 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Having thought about it, but if the hollow point screw acts in the same way as a stinger and the guy stopped but didnt notice that he picked it up... how on earth did he accelerate to 80mph with a deflating tyre and not notice?

I can tell if there is a slight puncture on my car (when I had one) let alone in a low profile tyre that would have deflated rather quickly and still not notice... that cant be right.

Sk93

208 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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guessing it was here:


Jonny_693

5,146 posts

178 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Dupont666 said:
let alone in a low profile tyre that would have deflated rather quickly and still not notice... that cant be right.
The trouble with that is low profile also tends to mean a much stiffer sidewall so not as noticeable as you may think.

Dupont666

21,613 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Im still very dubious about the screws... the passion ford site mentions loads of screws and yet only this car was effected, its on a dual carriage way so its not exactly the quietest road to go and stick loads of screws on.

It doesnt make sense with the amount screws they are saying (too many on the other site, could have been a single one) as so many more people would have had blow outs and burst tyres on the same stretch of road.

Dupont666

21,613 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Jonny_693 said:
Dupont666 said:
let alone in a low profile tyre that would have deflated rather quickly and still not notice... that cant be right.
The trouble with that is low profile also tends to mean a much stiffer sidewall so not as noticeable as you may think.
Not so such... my father had the same car and had bigger alloys on it at one stage and we sure noticed the tyre deflating after running over a few nails/screws on the road.

Munter

31,319 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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The Crack Fox said:
Munter said:
AndrewW-G said:
Story sounds like something out of a bad chain email, until one of the big news sites reports on it, my 2p is on it being BS
What he said. Sounds like the sort of thing someone would send round to see if it encourages someone to glue screws to the road.
Sponsored by Screw-fix...
Although given the passion ford link. It seems more likely to be true that there was a serious crash. If the spikes did it will take more investigation than we'll be able to do.

Sad that people died there. But IF they chose to turn up to a street race they'd know it's very risky.

Rusty Arches

694 posts

175 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Hmmmm, this might sort out the chav in his civic with that thinks it's fine to rag the nuts of it at 1 - 3AM nearly every day in a back to back terraced area.

whistle

alsem

580 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Dupont666 said:
Im still very dubious about the screws... the passion ford site mentions loads of screws and yet only this car was effected, its on a dual carriage way so its not exactly the quietest road to go and stick loads of screws on.

It doesnt make sense with the amount screws they are saying (too many on the other site, could have been a single one) as so many more people would have had blow outs and burst tyres on the same stretch of road.
true, maybe there was just one screw, they made a picture of and then drove over it at 80 mph..
Also if there were more then one screw they should add it to the story as it is important info for everyone checking the course before streetracing

dele

1,270 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Its true, ive heard from numerous sources and people who were there

The screws were noticed after lined up along the road curb side, more than one, try about 20

Happened Saturday night, driver died and passenger is paralysed, not sure on the other one

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Edited by dele on Tuesday 17th August 12:11

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Street racing is bad.

Sabotaging the road is bad.

Anyone could have hit that nail.


Dupont666

21,613 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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dele said:
Its true, ive heard from numerous sources and people who were there

The screws were noticed after lined up along the road curb side, more than one, try about 20

Happened Saturday night, driver died and passenger is paralysed, not sure on the other one

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Edited by dele on Tuesday 17th August 12:11
That is hearsay and not evidence...

Road curb side would still ask the question why did noone else manage to hit them driving down that road?

surely if under traffic monitoring cameras they would have spotted the culprit too, plus they would have been on the dual carriageway on the road which someone would spot no?

(only playing devils advocate here, I dont actually support it just the evidence out there is bit sketchy, as in only one photo of a screw and noa line of them)