DV-LA-la-la I'm not listening.
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Dave_ST220 said:
Yes as special delivery is much much more. Dunno what's "special" about it apart from the fact that <rant>
Recorded delivery letters gets stuffed in with the normal letters, the only extra you get is when the postie delivers it they knock on the door to get a signature. Special delivery goes in a separate bag, gets sent to the different sorting offices separately, sometimes it gets delivered separately too. Pretty certain there's a guarantee on the special stuff that it will get anywhere in the country the next day, which I think is pretty impressive! Liquid Knight said:
2/ request the letter be signed for individuallyand not in bulk.
I'm afraid (and I'm fairly certain on this), is that it can be signed in bulk. They just end up with effectively a page of special delivery codes, and sign once at the bottom. Although my knowledge could be way off here.b
d posties.Liquid Knight said:
pretty much everyone else has had an issue with the DVLA in the past at some stage.
Nope.Getting on for nearly thirty years of personal private transactions with the DVLA, no issues whatsoever. Also countless thousands and thousands of transactions from my time in the motor trade, covering every and any aspect of DVLA licensing, all & sundry. Again, no problems whatsoever.
I do wonder why I read of so many cock ups, and I do wonder where so many are going wrong. But having spent some time in the local DVLA office, and overheard why people are being sent away from the counter to re-do their paperwork, present the required documentation etc, and then rejoin the queue, maybe I can understand why.
Didn't expect such a pro-DVLA backlash from this site.
Doing really well on other forums with nearly 300 signed up ready to go and may be starting a Facebook campaign as well.
You are right about the bulk signed for issue, the maximum number of signed for post that can be done individually is five. The rest all get put in the same sack and dumped in the DVLA post room.
Just a reminder if you are going to join in with this, do not break the law. No sending poo, rude words or anything else that can be considered offencive. Just a polite "happy nondenominational seasons greetings" card.
Doing really well on other forums with nearly 300 signed up ready to go and may be starting a Facebook campaign as well.
You are right about the bulk signed for issue, the maximum number of signed for post that can be done individually is five. The rest all get put in the same sack and dumped in the DVLA post room.
Just a reminder if you are going to join in with this, do not break the law. No sending poo, rude words or anything else that can be considered offencive. Just a polite "happy nondenominational seasons greetings" card.
From 2 years ago,
A Cumbrian mother took her son's ashes into a courtroom to prove he was dead, after being hounded by officials.
Julie Strange, 43, carried the remains of her son, Paul, 19, into Workington Magistrates' Court after a lengthy row with vehicle licensing chiefs.
The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) threatened her late son with court action claiming he had not told them about the sale of a vehicle.
The DVLA has now apologised and promised to investigate the incident
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7672570...
A Cumbrian mother took her son's ashes into a courtroom to prove he was dead, after being hounded by officials.
Julie Strange, 43, carried the remains of her son, Paul, 19, into Workington Magistrates' Court after a lengthy row with vehicle licensing chiefs.
The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) threatened her late son with court action claiming he had not told them about the sale of a vehicle.
The DVLA has now apologised and promised to investigate the incident
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7672570...
Liquid Knight said:
Didn't expect such a pro-DVLA backlash from this site.
Doing really well on other forums with nearly 300 signed up ready to go and may be starting a Facebook campaign as well.
You are right about the bulk signed for issue, the maximum number of signed for post that can be done individually is five. The rest all get put in the same sack and dumped in the DVLA post room.
Just a reminder if you are going to join in with this, do not break the law. No sending poo, rude words or anything else that can be considered offencive. Just a polite "happy nondenominational seasons greetings" card.
Hardly going to be a massive surprise for them with all the publicity is it? Doing really well on other forums with nearly 300 signed up ready to go and may be starting a Facebook campaign as well.
You are right about the bulk signed for issue, the maximum number of signed for post that can be done individually is five. The rest all get put in the same sack and dumped in the DVLA post room.
Just a reminder if you are going to join in with this, do not break the law. No sending poo, rude words or anything else that can be considered offencive. Just a polite "happy nondenominational seasons greetings" card.
The Crack Fox said:
The odd occasion I've dealt with 'em, they've been great, maybe I've been lucky, but in any case all this will do is have a detrimental effect on their operations.
OK, do it, but not on a day I'm taxing my car or something...
That's why I've started this now and not in December to give everyone fair warning.OK, do it, but not on a day I'm taxing my car or something...
Liquid Knight said:
Didn't expect such a pro-DVLA backlash from this site.
No alot are saying they are st and your actions will only make them more st if that is even vaguely possible.I had to fight a fine for failing to tax a car which was already taxed and i think they are s
t but i wouldn't bother with this A contributer to another forum has come up with a solution to the why clog an already inefficient system issue. We wouldn't want anyones SORN fine notice to arrive late because we are protesting against SORN fine notifications would we?
So here's an alternative address to post the cards to.
Mr. Phillip Hammond MP
Secretary of State for Transport
The Palace of Westminster
London
SW1P 3PA
What do you think?
We'd have to move the date forward because MPs go on Christmas break before the 20th and providing nobody sends anything other than a card with a polite message writen inside (so's not to break any anti-terror laws) this should satisfy everyone who has a gripe with the DVLA and those who are affraid to rock the boat.
So here's an alternative address to post the cards to.
Mr. Phillip Hammond MP
Secretary of State for Transport
The Palace of Westminster
London
SW1P 3PA
What do you think?
We'd have to move the date forward because MPs go on Christmas break before the 20th and providing nobody sends anything other than a card with a polite message writen inside (so's not to break any anti-terror laws) this should satisfy everyone who has a gripe with the DVLA and those who are affraid to rock the boat.
They really are tts aren't they?
They have messed me about twice in the last 2 years over simple transactions.
First cock up was it took me 3 months to receive my V5 after buying a car from a well known trade centre. The trade centre chased the DVLA weekly on my behalf and it finally turned out that the DVLA had lost an entire batch of documents from traders but eventually "found them on a desk under some other files".
Next was I bought a used car from a private seller who had the car on SORN for a year. We didn't bother posting off the V5 and my new keeper details as I thought it infinitely safer to do the paperwork at my local DVLA office. So I MOT'd it and went to my local DVLA office and handed them my completed V5 and bought 6 months tax. I never received a tax reminder after 6 months, then realised I had not received my V5 either... Phoned the DVLA and they said my vehicle was 'unregistered' on their system and had been labelled as 'scrapped'!! They sorted it out for me after several angry visits to their local office but I was techically driving an unregistered car for 7 months which, if stopped by the police, may have led to a major fine!
Response from the DVLA local office woman? "oh well, these things happen I guess"
ts aren't they?They have messed me about twice in the last 2 years over simple transactions.
First cock up was it took me 3 months to receive my V5 after buying a car from a well known trade centre. The trade centre chased the DVLA weekly on my behalf and it finally turned out that the DVLA had lost an entire batch of documents from traders but eventually "found them on a desk under some other files".
Next was I bought a used car from a private seller who had the car on SORN for a year. We didn't bother posting off the V5 and my new keeper details as I thought it infinitely safer to do the paperwork at my local DVLA office. So I MOT'd it and went to my local DVLA office and handed them my completed V5 and bought 6 months tax. I never received a tax reminder after 6 months, then realised I had not received my V5 either... Phoned the DVLA and they said my vehicle was 'unregistered' on their system and had been labelled as 'scrapped'!! They sorted it out for me after several angry visits to their local office but I was techically driving an unregistered car for 7 months which, if stopped by the police, may have led to a major fine!
Response from the DVLA local office woman? "oh well, these things happen I guess"
Liquid Knight said:
Tongue was quite firmly in the cheek with this but now you meantion it. Maybe as a working example to show just how inefficient the DVLA postage system is.
The DVLA made £10,000,000 in SORN fines last year because of people being found guilty EVEN IF proven innocent. It's high time they learned that the British public aren't a bunch of patsies and can give as good as we get. How many peole have paid the £40/£80 because it saved the hastle of appealing or making a complaint about it? How many people have had letters from bailiffs while the DVLA were still "investigating" the alleged offence that isn't "alleged" at all because the DVLA see fit to be judge jury and executioner.
Suggesting that it would stop people from using the system for DVLA related stuff is why I've posted this now to give everyone fair warning.
EFAThe DVLA made £10,000,000 in SORN fines last year because of people being found guilty EVEN IF proven innocent. It's high time they learned that the British public aren't a bunch of patsies and can give as good as we get. How many peole have paid the £40/£80 because it saved the hastle of appealing or making a complaint about it? How many people have had letters from bailiffs while the DVLA were still "investigating" the alleged offence that isn't "alleged" at all because the DVLA see fit to be judge jury and executioner.
Suggesting that it would stop people from using the system for DVLA related stuff is why I've posted this now to give everyone fair warning.
What a wunch of bankers
Bought my last car from a trader, v5 posted back to dvla, unfortunately as i went on holiday very soon after I forgot about my v5 and didnt realise that I had never received it. Fast forward 12months I realised I hadnt had a reminder for the tax so I ended up having to go into the dvla office in Leeds, filling all the paperwork in again and they let me tax it there. Then i did the same dopy trick again and went on holiday and just didnt realise that I hadnt received the v5 yet again, so 12 months later again I rang them up in swansea and they eventually worked out that they had been sending the v5`s to house that I used to rent even though I had moved out of it nearly 18months before I bought the Mondeo. IMHO they are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard
Bought my last car from a trader, v5 posted back to dvla, unfortunately as i went on holiday very soon after I forgot about my v5 and didnt realise that I had never received it. Fast forward 12months I realised I hadnt had a reminder for the tax so I ended up having to go into the dvla office in Leeds, filling all the paperwork in again and they let me tax it there. Then i did the same dopy trick again and went on holiday and just didnt realise that I hadnt received the v5 yet again, so 12 months later again I rang them up in swansea and they eventually worked out that they had been sending the v5`s to house that I used to rent even though I had moved out of it nearly 18months before I bought the Mondeo. IMHO they are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard
Liquid Knight said:
Didn't expect such a pro-DVLA backlash from this site.
Doing really well on other forums with nearly 300 signed up ready to go and may be starting a Facebook campaign as well.
You are right about the bulk signed for issue, the maximum number of signed for post that can be done individually is five. The rest all get put in the same sack and dumped in the DVLA post room.
Just a reminder if you are going to join in with this, do not break the law. No sending poo, rude words or anything else that can be considered offencive. Just a polite "happy nondenominational seasons greetings" card.
This is possibly the stupidest idea I've heard in a long time. In sounds to me like you have very little to do with your time, especially stating you have so many 'signed up' and mention of starting a facebook group. Doing really well on other forums with nearly 300 signed up ready to go and may be starting a Facebook campaign as well.
You are right about the bulk signed for issue, the maximum number of signed for post that can be done individually is five. The rest all get put in the same sack and dumped in the DVLA post room.
Just a reminder if you are going to join in with this, do not break the law. No sending poo, rude words or anything else that can be considered offencive. Just a polite "happy nondenominational seasons greetings" card.
It's common knowledge that the fast majority of britons don't like/hate/detest the DVLA for one reason or another, but why on earth spend out more money on a bulk mailing plan to over-run an organisation that is already suffering?
What happens when you need to contact the DVLA in the future to then find that you're left waiting for ages or that your issues don't get resolved correctly? Are you then going to go and piss and moan about it to the 'facebook group', when all you're doing is adding to their problem?
I think you may need to grow up, think about how you choose to spend your time and find a new hobby.
CypherP said:
I think you may need to grow up, think about how you choose to spend your time and find a new hobby.
CypherP and the DVLA sitting in a tree......... 
Some people are behind the idea some are against it. While we are in a democratic society you are as equally entitled to your opinion as I am mine.
The specific problem I have with the DVLA is for the second time they have lost a log book to a car I have scrapped and without any forewarning, due process or right to appeal I have been fined for not declaring the car as SORN two years later. The DVLA are acting as judge, jury and executioner. This is a direct contradiction to that democratic society I mentioned earlier and is unlawful to the point that the fine itself in my opinion is little more than attempted theft.
The DVLA are not a court, they are not above the Law and a little peaceful protest will probably do little but I for one am not willing to allow the DVLA to get away with it again.
Liquid Knight said:
The DVLA are not a court, they are not above the Law and a little peaceful protest will probably do little but I for one am not willing to allow the DVLA to get away with it again.
So your idea of foiling any wrong doings by the DVLA in the future is for you and a couple of hundred other disgruntled customers to send them a greeting card in an effort to ruin what is likely one day's worth of administration? I'm sure creating a backlog for DVLA staff, as well as thousands of other members of the public will really hit them where it hurts. If I was in your shoes, I'd be pissed off, but I certainly wouldn't try and implement a childish timewasting prank, purely in an effort to feed your growing disapproval of the DVLA.
By no means have I had purely positive experiences with them, but I like to think that I have the maturity to move past it and go about my life having a little more respect for the way that things happen in this working world than you seem to.
Feel free to send me a pointless greeting card expressing your disapproval though if you'd like.
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