New member..& £75k impulse buy of the best car in the world?
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Ares said:
On start-up it sounds like a usual BMW 6-cyl diesel, very similar to my old 530d. Not rattly, better than a 4cyl petrol, smoother but slightly noisier hum than a 6-cyl petrol.
On the move, it's very different to the 530d. On the inside it's near silent at low revs, builds very smooth as the revs increase then when you really hit the throttle it sounds more like a muted V10.
No idea on the outside - I'm the only one that has driven it so far!
I've had mine for a year and a half now, so can elaborate on this a bit.On the move, it's very different to the 530d. On the inside it's near silent at low revs, builds very smooth as the revs increase then when you really hit the throttle it sounds more like a muted V10.
No idea on the outside - I'm the only one that has driven it so far!
Firstly I think the sound you hear inside is piped in (artificial). When in Comfort/Comfort+ it can be almost silent, while when in sport the sound increases too much to be simply a change in engine settings IMO.
From my experience, in winter when the engine is cold it can sound like a Diesel (a quiet one, but close your eyes and you'd know its a diesel). I tend to keep the revs low while its cold, but occasionally when forced to increase them a bit (getting into a busy roundabout or out of a junction to a busy road) again it definitely sounds like a diesel. Once its warmed up a bit (few minutes) it quickly starts sounding like a very refined engine. Close your eyes now and you wouldn't be quite so sure what you're in
. Give it some beans once warm (windows open, to make sure its not piped in/artificial sound) and it actually has a lovely roar, the kind that can make you lose your license 
Its never going to sound like a petrol 6, but IMO its closer to that end of the spectrum (once warm) then a usual diesel brute. And it responds and drives a lot like a petrol car, aside from the monstrous torque throughout the rev band, you'd struggle to know you weren't in a very juicy petrol engine
My only gripe would be acceleration is so linear, effortless, etc you don't get quite that sense of enjoyment you would with a highly strung petrol engine at lower speeds. The HUD is always there (mine has speed limit display aswell) to let you know you're well into license losing territory, so perhaps that adds a little sobriety where once I was more care free (or stupid ). On the flip side, its a practical, comfortable, very fast and still an extremely fun car when you give it some beans. That still does mid 30's with my extensive town driving and heads into the 40's+ on a run. And thats with me giving little consideration to economy while driving. IMO that 40d really is something to marvel at and I'm coming from some pretty nice petrol engines
5to1 said:
Ares said:
On start-up it sounds like a usual BMW 6-cyl diesel, very similar to my old 530d. Not rattly, better than a 4cyl petrol, smoother but slightly noisier hum than a 6-cyl petrol.
On the move, it's very different to the 530d. On the inside it's near silent at low revs, builds very smooth as the revs increase then when you really hit the throttle it sounds more like a muted V10.
No idea on the outside - I'm the only one that has driven it so far!
I've had mine for a year and a half now, so can elaborate on this a bit.On the move, it's very different to the 530d. On the inside it's near silent at low revs, builds very smooth as the revs increase then when you really hit the throttle it sounds more like a muted V10.
No idea on the outside - I'm the only one that has driven it so far!
Firstly I think the sound you hear inside is piped in (artificial). When in Comfort/Comfort+ it can be almost silent, while when in sport the sound increases too much to be simply a change in engine settings IMO.
From my experience, in winter when the engine is cold it can sound like a Diesel (a quiet one, but close your eyes and you'd know its a diesel). I tend to keep the revs low while its cold, but occasionally when forced to increase them a bit (getting into a busy roundabout or out of a junction to a busy road) again it definitely sounds like a diesel. Once its warmed up a bit (few minutes) it quickly starts sounding like a very refined engine. Close your eyes now and you wouldn't be quite so sure what you're in
. Give it some beans once warm (windows open, to make sure its not piped in/artificial sound) and it actually has a lovely roar, the kind that can make you lose your license Its never going to sound like a petrol 6, but IMO its closer to that end of the spectrum (once warm) then a usual diesel brute. And it responds and drives a lot like a petrol car, aside from the monstrous torque throughout the rev band, you'd struggle to know you weren't in a very juicy petrol engine
My only gripe would be acceleration is so linear, effortless, etc you don't get quite that sense of enjoyment you would with a highly strung petrol engine at lower speeds. The HUD is always there (mine has speed limit display aswell) to let you know you're well into license losing territory, so perhaps that adds a little sobriety where once I was more care free (or stupid ). On the flip side, its a practical, comfortable, very fast and still an extremely fun car when you give it some beans. That still does mid 30's with my extensive town driving and heads into the 40's+ on a run. And thats with me giving little consideration to economy while driving. IMO that 40d really is something to marvel at and I'm coming from some pretty nice petrol engines
Agree on the linear acceleration. It's a marvel, but does take away the sense of speed a little - easy to get the wrong side of licence losing territory. I still get a grin from the sport setting gear changes, instantaneous. My 10-plate 530d seems ponderous in comparison.
5to1 said:
I've had mine for a year and a half now, so can elaborate on this a bit.
Firstly I think the sound you hear inside is piped in (artificial). When in Comfort/Comfort+ it can be almost silent, while when in sport the sound increases too much to be simply a change in engine settings IMO.
From my experience, in winter when the engine is cold it can sound like a Diesel (a quiet one, but close your eyes and you'd know its a diesel). I tend to keep the revs low while its cold, but occasionally when forced to increase them a bit (getting into a busy roundabout or out of a junction to a busy road) again it definitely sounds like a diesel. Once its warmed up a bit (few minutes) it quickly starts sounding like a very refined engine. Close your eyes now and you wouldn't be quite so sure what you're in. Give it some beans once warm (windows open, to make sure its not piped in/artificial sound) and it actually has a lovely roar, the kind that can make you lose your license
Its never going to sound like a petrol 6, but IMO its closer to that end of the spectrum (once warm) then a usual diesel brute. And it responds and drives a lot like a petrol car, aside from the monstrous torque throughout the rev band, you'd struggle to know you weren't in a very juicy petrol engine My only gripe would be acceleration is so linear, effortless, etc you don't get quite that sense of enjoyment you would with a highly strung petrol engine at lower speeds. The HUD is always there (mine has speed limit display aswell) to let you know you're well into license losing territory, so perhaps that adds a little sobriety where once I was more care free (or stupid ).
On the flip side, its a practical, comfortable, very fast and still an extremely fun car when you give it some beans. That still does mid 30's with my extensive town driving and heads into the 40's+ on a run. And thats with me giving little consideration to economy while driving. IMO that 40d really is something to marvel at and I'm coming from some pretty nice petrol engines
I'm 6 months in with my M Sport GC and would agree with what you're saying wholeheartedly. I love the car, it's perfect for what I need - and it draws positive comments like no other car I've ever had.Firstly I think the sound you hear inside is piped in (artificial). When in Comfort/Comfort+ it can be almost silent, while when in sport the sound increases too much to be simply a change in engine settings IMO.
From my experience, in winter when the engine is cold it can sound like a Diesel (a quiet one, but close your eyes and you'd know its a diesel). I tend to keep the revs low while its cold, but occasionally when forced to increase them a bit (getting into a busy roundabout or out of a junction to a busy road) again it definitely sounds like a diesel. Once its warmed up a bit (few minutes) it quickly starts sounding like a very refined engine. Close your eyes now and you wouldn't be quite so sure what you're in
. Give it some beans once warm (windows open, to make sure its not piped in/artificial sound) and it actually has a lovely roar, the kind that can make you lose your license Its never going to sound like a petrol 6, but IMO its closer to that end of the spectrum (once warm) then a usual diesel brute. And it responds and drives a lot like a petrol car, aside from the monstrous torque throughout the rev band, you'd struggle to know you weren't in a very juicy petrol engine
My only gripe would be acceleration is so linear, effortless, etc you don't get quite that sense of enjoyment you would with a highly strung petrol engine at lower speeds. The HUD is always there (mine has speed limit display aswell) to let you know you're well into license losing territory, so perhaps that adds a little sobriety where once I was more care free (or stupid ). On the flip side, its a practical, comfortable, very fast and still an extremely fun car when you give it some beans. That still does mid 30's with my extensive town driving and heads into the 40's+ on a run. And thats with me giving little consideration to economy while driving. IMO that 40d really is something to marvel at and I'm coming from some pretty nice petrol engines
The only downside for me so far has been the quality - which falls significantly short of my previous 370Z Roadster. It's been in the garage twice now, and due back next week to investigate a badly rattling seat. Have you experienced issues?
had ham said:
I'm 6 months in with my M Sport GC and would agree with what you're saying wholeheartedly. I love the car, it's perfect for what I need - and it draws positive comments like no other car I've ever had.
The only downside for me so far has been the quality - which falls significantly short of my previous 370Z Roadster. It's been in the garage twice now, and due back next week to investigate a badly rattling seat. Have you experienced issues?
Switch pack died on drivers side door. Mirrors were folded at the time and wouldn't stay in unfolded position, so had to call out assist who could only tape them in place after some messing around (was great to be able to hit SOS in car to call them though, rather then mess around finding number giving my VIN/Reg/etc). The Dealer fixed it quickly so was only without the car for a day. One of the rear soft close doors hasn't closed a couple of times, but they couldn't replicate it. And once the HUD wouldn't turn on, but then started working again. They couldn't find that problem either, hasn't recurred in almost a year now, but they did a sw update and logged the issue incase it occurs later out of warranty.The only downside for me so far has been the quality - which falls significantly short of my previous 370Z Roadster. It's been in the garage twice now, and due back next week to investigate a badly rattling seat. Have you experienced issues?
So in a year and a half, I've been without it for a day, which I'm ok with considering I bought very early. I've had far more problems first year production cars in the past (I like to buy early in the life cycle), so pleased with it so far (fingers crossed).
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