RE: Honda NSX | Spotted
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havoc said:
GeniusOfLove said:
British Beef said:
There are better drivers cars and better looking cars, and you could buy examples of both for significantly less than this.
Nice as a fresh NSX is, factoring VFM this gets 1 star from me, about £100k overpriced in my eyes.
Im sure a Honda + Senna fan will be along to justify its pricing shortly.
When a car gets on and has this much "cultural heritage" the value proposition is barely about how it drives or looks. If it was all these crap old Fords would still be getting weighed in for £50 rather that than selling for £100k.Nice as a fresh NSX is, factoring VFM this gets 1 star from me, about £100k overpriced in my eyes.
Im sure a Honda + Senna fan will be along to justify its pricing shortly.
In terms of lacking VFM, the NSX (whilst I'd agree is now definitely guilty at the low-mileage end of the market) barely moves the dial vs other stuff being sold nowadays.
Not just Fast Fords either (although they are the most egregious offenders - £100k for a Sierra Cossie or an old Escort?!?
) - I mean, is an E30 M3 a £100k car? Is an old aircooled boggo 911 worth the same money? In both cases emphatically not...but the market will pay it. Beyond that the DeLorean is a pile of s
t and only a certain film is propping values up, '80s Ferraris - whisper it - ain't all that good, but try finding a straight one for under £50k. Compared to the 308/328/348 the NSX is an absolute bargain. And there's more beyond those obvious examples.All this is excluding very-rare limited edition stuff which may be better to drive than the standard car but costs a multiple of the standard car (R33 Nismo, for example, Sierra RS500, etc.)
They drove ok back in the day, but I'd imagine that if I got in one now, I'd think that it was a pile of crap to drive though(especially in comparison to some of the performance cars I've had since back then).
cerb4.5lee said:
The Fast Ford thing always fascinates me to be honest. I loved the XR4x4's I had at the time, and I've driven several Sapphire Cosworths over the years too. However, no chance in this world would I pay the money that some of the Fast Fords go for now though.
They drove ok back in the day, but I'd imagine that if I got in one now, I'd think that it was a pile of crap to drive though(especially in comparison to some of the performance cars I've had since back then).
It fascinates me too! They drove ok back in the day, but I'd imagine that if I got in one now, I'd think that it was a pile of crap to drive though(especially in comparison to some of the performance cars I've had since back then).
I loved my MK2 Escort RS2000 in 1983, but I'd never pay £50K for one! It was a rattly old Escort that I sold for less than £2.5K in 1984.
Loved my Capri2.8is and XR4i back in the 80s, although a Sapphire Cosworth at Silverstone was a massive disappointment even before the head gasket failed.
Old cars were best enjoyed in the past IMHO.
cornershop said:
How does the Targa compare to the Coupe?
PlansPerformance seem to suggest there is not much difference, based on measures Honda undertook?
I'll let others more experienced than me confirm, but unless you're taking the car on track or frequently drive it like you stole it down gnarly roads, I don't think it makes a lot of odds.PlansPerformance seem to suggest there is not much difference, based on measures Honda undertook?
The car does date from the era when convertibles displayed SOME wobble and shake, so over bad roads you'll probably notice it...but I suspect the added dimension of taking the roof off will more than compensate more of the time.
havoc said:
I'll let others more experienced than me confirm, but unless you're taking the car on track or frequently drive it like you stole it down gnarly roads, I don't think it makes a lot of odds.
The car does date from the era when convertibles displayed SOME wobble and shake, so over bad roads you'll probably notice it...but I suspect the added dimension of taking the roof off will more than compensate more of the time.
I owned a targa for several years & it never felt like a compromise*. In fact, the removable roof only added to the ownership experience. Honda even supply these tiny little rubber plugs that locate in the exposed roof holes - they made a huge difference to the amount of wind noise. That is the level of engineering excellence that made the NSX a step above its rivals & it remains simply brilliant in my eyes.The car does date from the era when convertibles displayed SOME wobble and shake, so over bad roads you'll probably notice it...but I suspect the added dimension of taking the roof off will more than compensate more of the time.
Gratuitous trackday pic.
*but I haven't spend time in a coupe for comparison.
The decision to buy this would be made with the heart, rather than the head and in those situations VFM is generally not a factor. Totally different league but I paid £13k for 20+ year old Accord because I wanted it. I know it's not "worth" that much and I could got a nice one for 20% of that, but that's not the point.
If I was minted I'd daily this. It's lovely.
If I was minted I'd daily this. It's lovely.
The car was sold to an overseas buyer so I took the plate off before export, otherwise it would've been lost forever. Figured a Honda owner would want the plate, but someone up north bought it, because 'CU' was a registration from their hometown...
Eta: its not showing on the MOT database, so not currently assigned to a vehicle.
Eta: its not showing on the MOT database, so not currently assigned to a vehicle.
Edited by LarJammer on Saturday 23 December 11:14
I'm on 197k miles in mine. Used daily for last 10 years. Original clutch went at 167k. That's it. Not had any rebuilds, no mot fails. Car drives faultless. The nsx wasn't just about performance. People forgot what a good car is about. Build quality is hard to beat. Paint job was a 23 stage process from the factory. Again, as for a drivers car, hard to beat for me, but you have to be a smooth driver.
MC Bodge said:
mjames75 said:
Again, as for a drivers car, hard to beat for me, but you have to be a smooth driver.
That will rule out almost everybody then.Good effort for using yours so much.
MC Bodge said:
mjames75 said:
Again, as for a drivers car, hard to beat for me, but you have to be a smooth driver.
That will rule out almost everybody then.Good effort for using yours so much.
mjames75 said:
I'm on 197k miles in mine. Used daily for last 10 years. Original clutch went at 167k. That's it. Not had any rebuilds, no mot fails. Car drives faultless. The nsx wasn't just about performance. People forgot what a good car is about. Build quality is hard to beat. Paint job was a 23 stage process from the factory. Again, as for a drivers car, hard to beat for me, but you have to be a smooth driver.
sticks090460 said:
Look at what else you can get for £145k, and tell me you’d still have this over that. E.g. 2017 Huracan with 12.5k miles. Mclaren 600LT 2019, 12k miles. Etc.
I'd still have an NSX over those, zero hesitation.The only other cars that would make me pause in reaching for the NSX keys would be a 360 Challenge Stradale and an R34 V-SpecII Nur.
Edited by TheJimi on Thursday 28th December 20:23
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