One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3
Discussion
Is it the changing of the seasons that brings them out?
1. the people who pull out of side roads no matter what's coming because you'll slow down rather than hit them. Increasingly common is the turn right from a side road variant which means if they're joining your lane you don't see them until the last second as they lunge from the side road, between cars on the opposite side of the road and turn in front of you
2. the gardening company truck at this roundabout
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6447386,-0.26149...
There's a protocol observed on the roundabout which 90% of people follow. I approach (at 6 O'clock) to turn right (3 o'clock) where there's often a queue backing up onto the roundabout. If you're joining in this way protocol is that you let in any cars from the left (9 o'clock) as they're going right (from their point of view, ie 6 o'clock, where I came from)
This morning said truck was edging out but the driver was biting his nail while looking at me / my car / somewhere behind me / staring into space. As protocol dictates I was letting him in front of me. Not only not acknowledge me (not the end of the world, I'll live) but it moved out sooooooooo slowly it was unbelievable. I gave him a "wind it up" gesture but that just meant I got shouted at to "f**k off". Knob.
2a other idiots on this roundabout are the ones who go into the left lane (marked left / straight) but then take the last exit or, if there's a lot of traffic trying to make a third lane round the roundabout between cars going from 6 to 3 and cars going form 9 to 3. Knobs.
3 the Discover driver tootling along in lane 3 of the A1 North despite the fact there were two empty lanes to his / her left. Lane 1 becomes the M25 slip road, so as we approached and I wasn't going to get past I moved left and joined lane 1 to go up to the M25.
Right at the last minute the LR driver indicated and pulled in behind me having gone from lane 3 to 1 in one move (swerve) just ahead of the hashed lines. Knob.
4. The Thames Water van driver who didn't move up the M25 / A10 slip road when traffic pulled away and allowed a 50 or 60m gap to open up (which causes more queues on the actual M25) until I pipped. I suspected she was texting. A bit further up after a couple more pauses she indicated left and switched lanes. As expected, she was looking down at the phone. Knob(ette)
1. the people who pull out of side roads no matter what's coming because you'll slow down rather than hit them. Increasingly common is the turn right from a side road variant which means if they're joining your lane you don't see them until the last second as they lunge from the side road, between cars on the opposite side of the road and turn in front of you
2. the gardening company truck at this roundabout
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6447386,-0.26149...
There's a protocol observed on the roundabout which 90% of people follow. I approach (at 6 O'clock) to turn right (3 o'clock) where there's often a queue backing up onto the roundabout. If you're joining in this way protocol is that you let in any cars from the left (9 o'clock) as they're going right (from their point of view, ie 6 o'clock, where I came from)
This morning said truck was edging out but the driver was biting his nail while looking at me / my car / somewhere behind me / staring into space. As protocol dictates I was letting him in front of me. Not only not acknowledge me (not the end of the world, I'll live) but it moved out sooooooooo slowly it was unbelievable. I gave him a "wind it up" gesture but that just meant I got shouted at to "f**k off". Knob.
2a other idiots on this roundabout are the ones who go into the left lane (marked left / straight) but then take the last exit or, if there's a lot of traffic trying to make a third lane round the roundabout between cars going from 6 to 3 and cars going form 9 to 3. Knobs.
3 the Discover driver tootling along in lane 3 of the A1 North despite the fact there were two empty lanes to his / her left. Lane 1 becomes the M25 slip road, so as we approached and I wasn't going to get past I moved left and joined lane 1 to go up to the M25.
Right at the last minute the LR driver indicated and pulled in behind me having gone from lane 3 to 1 in one move (swerve) just ahead of the hashed lines. Knob.
4. The Thames Water van driver who didn't move up the M25 / A10 slip road when traffic pulled away and allowed a 50 or 60m gap to open up (which causes more queues on the actual M25) until I pipped. I suspected she was texting. A bit further up after a couple more pauses she indicated left and switched lanes. As expected, she was looking down at the phone. Knob(ette)
Lorry drivers. Specifically the bellend last night who, at a T junction up the road from work left a big gap and when I looked at him he appeared to offer me the space, stopped a few inches from the right hand side of my car as I crept into the lane looking left for the traffic. Lots of leaning on the horn etc.....After I pulled back he proceeded forwards joining the queue ahead, making me wait for a bit longer. You Sir, are a 
, and a pointless at that.
I should have taken the number of the haulage company but life's too short. He'll always be a after all 
, and a pointless at that. I should have taken the number of the haulage company but life's too short. He'll always be a
after all SonicShadow said:
People who use the white lines in the middle of the road as the give way point when turning right out of a side road.
This a million times over; I've only ever seen it since moving to London but it seems to be socially acceptable just to move out into the oncoming lane regardless of what may be coming, presumably using the theory of squatters rights. Saw someone try this the other night on the way home but traffic in the lane he was trying to muscle into wasn't moving and he ended up blocking traffic for a good minute or two.I'll also add into the mix people performing 3-point turns in busy streets in London, especially when there is a roundabout just along the road or somewhere you can do a loop.
People who use the two residential roads next to London Road to race down and jump the queue.
Especially people who force their way in from the first one (see previous post) then dive straight into the next one to race away.
All it would take is making these roads one way (East > West) so against the flow of traffic down London Road to make them much safer and stop the knobs.
Also, having read Yellowjack's post about supermarkets - people who drive straight across zebra crossings in supermarket car parks. I was pushing a trolley with my 8 month old son in the child seat across such a crossing at our local Sainsbury's the other day. I saw a car approaching form my right and he passed right behind me. Didn't exactly clip my heal but wasn't far off. Of course he was wearing a thousand yard stare and looking straight ahead, didn't even look to the side as he passed by.
Especially people who force their way in from the first one (see previous post) then dive straight into the next one to race away.
All it would take is making these roads one way (East > West) so against the flow of traffic down London Road to make them much safer and stop the knobs.
Also, having read Yellowjack's post about supermarkets - people who drive straight across zebra crossings in supermarket car parks. I was pushing a trolley with my 8 month old son in the child seat across such a crossing at our local Sainsbury's the other day. I saw a car approaching form my right and he passed right behind me. Didn't exactly clip my heal but wasn't far off. Of course he was wearing a thousand yard stare and looking straight ahead, didn't even look to the side as he passed by.
smithyithy said:
ORD said:
You knew he would join L1 but didn't back off to allow it to happen. You made it necessary for the 'cutting up' to take place. Bad driving. You obviously didn't like him using L2 so made sure not to make it easy for him to rejoin L1.
Absolutely not the case. He had opportunities to rejoin Lane 1, and there was no benefit from attempting the overtake.By the time we were braking for the second roundabout, there were still spaces for him to pull back in but it was like he didn't want to conceed his 'gain'.
At that point I'd have had to brake heavily for him to actually 'pass' me and slot in front. Instead he took it upon himself to maintain speed approaching the roundabout then late brake / dive left and force himself into the gap.
I didn't for a second 'block' him or prevent him from getting past - when he started overtaking I expected him to get further ahead of us to be fair, being in a quick car, but it's a pointless move on that road anyway as the dual sections are too short to make significant gains. There are a few cars I've seen on more than one occasion that simply bomb down the road and cut people up right before the second roundabout. it's a troublesome bit of road..
The more people that learn to share that piece of road in front of them the less troublesome roads become...
A good defensive driver will always anticipate that a driver might not get far enough ahead and be ready and willing to create space rather than close the door or increase the likelihood of heavy braking should that car want/need to come in to "your" lane.
I know it can be annoying, as it's clear from your tone and wording you didn't like what he was doing and it's hard to see that you helped him on his way or tried to mitigate his bad driving as you saw it from what you've written.
Defensive driving courses should be compulsory.
Are you being serious? I've already explained that I didn't block him or prevent him pulling back in.
If he'd actually got past me and indicated I'd have flashed him in as it is a tricky bit of road. But that didn't happen, he didn't overtake me, so how am I to allow him to pull in??
Lane 1 was busy, but travelling at the correct speed with safe gaps between each car, we were just making our way forward to the roundabout. He made the mistake by trying to overtake, didn't plan ahead or take the opportunity to rejoin our lane.
The only way I could've let him in at any point would've been by braking from 45 down to 30, and even then I don't know if he'd have pulled in as he wasn't indicating.
Who are you suggesting needs to do the defensive driving course? Me, for driving as normally as possible?
If he'd actually got past me and indicated I'd have flashed him in as it is a tricky bit of road. But that didn't happen, he didn't overtake me, so how am I to allow him to pull in??
Lane 1 was busy, but travelling at the correct speed with safe gaps between each car, we were just making our way forward to the roundabout. He made the mistake by trying to overtake, didn't plan ahead or take the opportunity to rejoin our lane.
The only way I could've let him in at any point would've been by braking from 45 down to 30, and even then I don't know if he'd have pulled in as he wasn't indicating.
Who are you suggesting needs to do the defensive driving course? Me, for driving as normally as possible?
Everyone probably thought me today, have had a pretty crappy week, as I was driving home so kids in a council estate were in the middle of the road doing wheelies on their bikes, after waiting patiently for about 10-15 seconds they cleared the road and I was on my way, it was then one of them threw a stone at my car.
Being in a bad mood I wasn't having it, I stopped the car, got out and asked them what they think they were doing and not to throw stones at people's cars, left having called them feral children, my voice was raised throughout.
I felt a dick after, still feel a dick now, even though they obviously didn't give a st, their parents were watching, also not giving a st, but I still feel a dick, probably for shouting at stranger's children, don't know what passers by though. Car looks to be undamaged but haven't seen it in the light.
Being in a bad mood I wasn't having it, I stopped the car, got out and asked them what they think they were doing and not to throw stones at people's cars, left having called them feral children, my voice was raised throughout.
I felt a dick after, still feel a dick now, even though they obviously didn't give a s
t, their parents were watching, also not giving a st, but I still feel a dick, probably for shouting at stranger's children, don't know what passers by though. Car looks to be undamaged but haven't seen it in the light.I always love driving into and out of Wakefield, the general driving standards are pretty average but the area seems to specialise in having a minority of the worst drivers in the whole county.
1) HGV driver driving the wrong way around a roundabout and waving like a loon at me because I stopped to assess if he was just going to plough into me while performing his illegal manoeuvre.
2) Generic BMW tosser, 2 feet from my rear bumper in a 2 lane section of 40mph while I'm doing 40, if not a shade more tbh and passing vehicles in lane 1. As soon as l1 was clear I knew what was coming, foot down he..... rattled? his way past at a rate of knot only to have to come to a complete stop 40m in front at some red lights.
1) HGV driver driving the wrong way around a roundabout and waving like a loon at me because I stopped to assess if he was just going to plough into me while performing his illegal manoeuvre.
2) Generic BMW tosser, 2 feet from my rear bumper in a 2 lane section of 40mph while I'm doing 40, if not a shade more tbh and passing vehicles in lane 1. As soon as l1 was clear I knew what was coming, foot down he..... rattled? his way past at a rate of knot only to have to come to a complete stop 40m in front at some red lights.
- I say rattled as I have no idea what model it was but it sounded like a bag of spanners.
carlove said:
Everyone probably thought me today, have had a pretty crappy week, as I was driving home so kids in a council estate were in the middle of the road doing wheelies on their bikes, after waiting patiently for about 10-15 seconds they cleared the road and I was on my way, it was then one of them threw a stone at my car.
Being in a bad mood I wasn't having it, I stopped the car, got out and asked them what they think they were doing and not to throw stones at people's cars, left having called them feral children, my voice was raised throughout.
I felt a dick after, still feel a dick now, even though they obviously didn't give a st, their parents were watching, also not giving a st, but I still feel a dick, probably for shouting at stranger's children, don't know what passers by though. Car looks to be undamaged but haven't seen it in the light.
To be honest if I would have witnessed you do that I wouldn't have thought 'knob' at all, you waited patiently until they had stopped clowning around. Being in a bad mood I wasn't having it, I stopped the car, got out and asked them what they think they were doing and not to throw stones at people's cars, left having called them feral children, my voice was raised throughout.
I felt a dick after, still feel a dick now, even though they obviously didn't give a s
t, their parents were watching, also not giving a st, but I still feel a dick, probably for shouting at stranger's children, don't know what passers by though. Car looks to be undamaged but haven't seen it in the light.And as for getting out and having a word with them after they has thrown stones at your car, you refrained from use foul & abusive language that has become commonplace today ( where as most people would have struggled to do so).
All in I think you handled the situation well, so I wouldn't be too hard on yourself.
Unless you held up a main road at rush hour and stopped everybody behind you from getting home a minute earlier, then you definitely would be a 'knob'
Blanchimont said:
+1. I saw 3 in the space of half a mile, all with DRL's on. I flashed my headlights at one, and all I got back was a WTF look.
Morons, of the highest order.
One I spotted was an old Picasso, so no lights whatsoever. How could you not realise, surely the whole interior would be black?Morons, of the highest order.
My candidate for today was the guy who tried to 'crash for cash' me this morning on the A5.
Exiting a roundabout, with me in lane 1, and a couple of cars in L2 - second of which was a Vauxhall Astra van. First guy in lane 1 roared off, and disappeared, leaving the astra accelerating slowly. So, on the A5, I was in L1, with Astra van slightly ahead of me in L2. He stopped accelerating at around 50mph (70 limit), then started slowing slightly. By this point my 'muppet detector' is starting to wake up and I've backed completely off the throttle and have my foot hovering over the brakes. His next move? Swerve violently in L1 and slam the brakes on.
I can only assume he's damaged the back of his car, and wants someone to pay for a new rear bumper etc.
Exiting a roundabout, with me in lane 1, and a couple of cars in L2 - second of which was a Vauxhall Astra van. First guy in lane 1 roared off, and disappeared, leaving the astra accelerating slowly. So, on the A5, I was in L1, with Astra van slightly ahead of me in L2. He stopped accelerating at around 50mph (70 limit), then started slowing slightly. By this point my 'muppet detector' is starting to wake up and I've backed completely off the throttle and have my foot hovering over the brakes. His next move? Swerve violently in L1 and slam the brakes on.
I can only assume he's damaged the back of his car, and wants someone to pay for a new rear bumper etc.
Edited by DavidJG on Friday 23 October 09:42
lavaJava said:
smithyithy said:
mr2j said:
So which was it? Did you "remain calm" or "applaud enthusiastically"?
I meant calm as in not angry. Normally I'd have got quite irate, but I just couldn't be bothered. When he cut me up, I just thought 'you bloody wally' and thought a sarcastic applause would be better than shouting and screaming and turning red.
In hindsight I could've done nothing at all, but hey ho.
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