RE: SOTW: Toyota MR2... With A V6

[ChiChoAndy]

WarrenG said:

no, only grey import route.

Hard to find a good one when I was looking at them via importers.

[300bhp/ton]

WarrenG said:

Yeah, but if you didn't get hold of an import of either model, the mk2 when introduced in the UK, with what was basically the MKII Celica engine, the comparison is a bit more like;

	MK1 MR2 (84)	MK2 MR2 (90)
Weight	975kg	1275kg
Length	155.5"	163"
Width	65.6"	66.9"
Wheelbase	91.3"	94.5"
Height	49.2"	48.8"
Power	122bhp	153bhp
Torque	105 ft lb	137 ft lb
Power to weight	125bhp/ton	121bhp/ton

I was more comparing top model to top model.

WarrenG said:

not to mention the terminal 'lift-off' oversteer that the mk2 were heavily re-designed in the suspension dept. after litigation cases.

I've read a lot about this. It seems most/many who've driven them actually say the Rev 1 Mk2 is the better drive and that it was dulled down for the Rev 2 revisions.

I also believe it was more due to "media hype" rather than actual cases of incidents. Hype non the less from a few motoring journalists.

I kind of wonder, had it been a Ferrari or some other high end sports car, would it have had the complaints for being quite a focused drivers car with razor sharp turn in?

WarrenG said:

original and best is the only way with an MR2.

Depends what you want though. Personally I like both, but prefer the Rev 1 MK2 looks over any MR2. Suspect it's also fairly livable too.

WarrenG said:

if you can get a SC version, go down the sadly missed HKS twin-charger route and then it's really able to embarrass the bigger toys with only bolt-on mods.

True, but then your curb weight increases too though. You can't have the lightest example and the power, there's a trade off somewhere.

[0a]

I have no desire to own this non-working car, but strangely neither would I want to own it were it fixed.

Utter rubbish, poor shed.

[OlberJ]

0a said:

I have no desire to own this non-working car, but strangely neither would I want to own it were it fixed.

Utter rubbish, poor shed.

Care to explain why?

[OlberJ]

300bhp/ton said:

I've read a lot about this. It seems most/many who've driven them actually say the Rev 1 Mk2 is the better drive and that it was dulled down for the Rev 2 revisions.

I also believe it was more due to "media hype" rather than actual cases of incidents. Hype non the less from a few motoring journalists.

In a GT car you don't want handling that's too lively. The wheelbase just didn't suit it, hence why it was changed from Rev2 onwards.

[Kateg28]

ChiChoAndy said:

Hard to find a good one when I was looking at them via importers.

I just found a very good one. I just looked in my car port.
Love it lots.

[quigonjay]

300bhp/ton said:

	MK1 MR2 (84)	MK2 MR2 (90)
Weight	975kg	1275kg
Length	155.5"	163"
Width	65.6"	66.9"
Wheelbase	91.3"	94.5"
Height	49.2"	48.8"
Power	122bhp	153bhp
Torque	105 ft lb	137 ft lb
Power to weight	125bhp/ton	121bhp/ton

the revision 1 na was more like 1200kgs
in fact on the following link, it is listed as 1160 for an import that generally have more kit, but that is probably dry weight

http://specs.cars-directory.net/toyota/mr2/1989_61...

[ChiChoAndy]

It was also only auto, if I recall. It never came with the spoiler, and looked awful.

[quigonjay]

ChiChoAndy said:

It was also only auto, if I recall. It never came with the spoiler, and looked awful.

that was the earliest versions of the rev1 with the 120hp engine, 3s-fe i think

[OlberJ]

quigonjay said:

3s-fe

/shudder.

Though shalt not utter that phrase in company again.

[ChiChoAndy]

quigonjay said:

that was the earliest versions of the rev1 with the 120hp engine, 3s-fe i think

Yup...

[Zircon]

OlberJ said:

0a said:

I have no desire to own this non-working car, but strangely neither would I want to own it were it fixed.

Utter rubbish, poor shed.

Care to explain why?

I am sure he won't care to explain as he has probably never driven a Mk1 MR2 and therefore wouldn't know how to validate his comment.

For those of you who don't rate the Mk2 - you just can't drive.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUCudgQ3Mus

This video shows the Mk2 holding its own over cars that some of you don't think the MR2 deserves to be mentioned next to.

Edited by Zircon on Friday 12th August 21:23

Edited by Zircon on Friday 12th August 21:24

[AW06]

I haven't read all of the thread, But I'm the poster of the ad.

Its a 1MZ-FE Engine from a camry, Its only being put up for sale due to dialysis and not having time to work on, or use the car anymore.

Heatsheild was the last job to do before running out of time, The car was only used for short trips once finished due to needing mapped.

It has been done to a high standard, The car looks poor but it was never meant to be a show car, as I said it was built as a cheap track car, And most importantly a cheap car to have fun with and surprise a few people.

Anything else I've missed? lol

[quigonjay]

AW06 said:

I haven't read all of the thread, But I'm the poster of the ad.

Its a 1MZ-FE Engine from a camry, Its only being put up for sale due to dialysis and not having time to work on, or use the car anymore.

Heatsheild was the last job to do before running out of time, The car was only used for short trips once finished due to needing mapped.

It has been done to a high standard, The car looks poor but it was never meant to be a show car, as I said it was built as a cheap track car, And most importantly a cheap car to have fun with and surprise a few people.

Anything else I've missed? lol

top lurking

[dandarez]

Could always get its British equivalent...







Second thoughts, its values are much higher.
One on PH classifieds right now at £3250...
oh well there was, it's sold already!

[WarrenG]

quigonjay said:

300bhp/ton said:

	MK1 MR2 (84)	MK2 MR2 (90)
Weight	975kg	1275kg
Length	155.5"	163"
Width	65.6"	66.9"
Wheelbase	91.3"	94.5"
Height	49.2"	48.8"
Power	122bhp	153bhp
Torque	105 ft lb	137 ft lb
Power to weight	125bhp/ton	121bhp/ton

the revision 1 na was more like 1200kgs
in fact on the following link, it is listed as 1160 for an import that generally have more kit, but that is probably dry weight

http://specs.cars-directory.net/toyota/mr2/1989_61...

funnily enough, via that list it has the mk1 heavier and at 130hp. I was using Carfolio/specifications as a aid to memory to avoid trawling mr2oc or imoc.

alot of places muddle PS and bhp, I was almost devasted to learn that the Fiat Coupe 20V turbo was only 218 'proper' horsepowers and not the 220 I'd heard of, because it takes 220 inferior german horses to make up that power!

[Hellbound]

Zircon said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUCudgQ3Mus

This video shows the Mk2 holding its own over cars that some of you don't think the MR2 deserves to be mentioned next to.

Part of me wishes they'd thrown in a TVR Griffith or summat just to highlight the obvious differences between the cars.

Anyway, a bit of polish and it'll look like this;



In a few years these cars will be highly sought after and worth a pretty penny, if not already.

[redgriff500]

Zircon said:

I am sure he won't care to explain as he has probably never driven a Mk1 MR2 and therefore wouldn't know how to validate his comment.

For those of you who don't rate the Mk2 - you just can't drive.....

This video shows the Mk2 holding its own over cars that some of you don't think the MR2 deserves to be mentioned next to.

I owned a supercharged import Mk1 MR2 probably 20yrs ago.

I didn't like it, it was too small, too slow and I couldn't play with the back.

I ended up with a Supercharged Mk1 MX5 and much prefer it.

[OlberJ]

redgriff500 said:

I owned a supercharged import Mk1 MR2 probably 20yrs ago.

I didn't like it, it was too small, too slow and I couldn't play with the back.

I ended up with a Supercharged Mk1 MX5 and much prefer it.

What do you mean by that?

It's a mid engined car so is never going to be a drifter's dream. You can certainly get the arse out on tight corners though.

[Woodsport]

Waves to Olie, Mart, Kate, Marf etc

This thread is hilarious! I'll keep my opinions on some of the nonsense that's been posted to myself though as i'll only get shot down for airing them, what i will say though is that £1000 for a 1mz powered Mk1 is a bargain, and for those of you who don't know, that car when mapped/running correctly will embarrass quite a lot of expensive cars out there, but hey what do i know.