Stolen 1M CCTV footage
Discussion
Alnassma said:
You really want to live in a country cutting off bodyparts or worse - death - for stealing a car?
Yes, I'd be quite happy to see e.g. mandatory castration as a penalty for theft, though maybe only on a second offense. Wouldn't worry me at all, as I don't steal cars (or anything else). That way they are still able to earn an honest living using their hands, but can't spread their defective genes.BigTom85 said:
Moving the OBD port to towards the centre console would do the job.
I'd go for a dummy OBD port to be honest, wiring it up to damage the kit won't please your dealer when you forget to tell him, and you wouldn't want for the theives to get revenge by smashing the thing up or breaking into your house etc.
regulations dictate is MUST be located in a 300mm band between the steering centre line and the door on the driver's side.I'd go for a dummy OBD port to be honest, wiring it up to damage the kit won't please your dealer when you forget to tell him, and you wouldn't want for the theives to get revenge by smashing the thing up or breaking into your house etc.
Mr2Mike said:
Alnassma said:
You really want to live in a country cutting off bodyparts or worse - death - for stealing a car?
Yes, I'd be quite happy to see e.g. mandatory castration as a penalty for theft, though maybe only on a second offense. Wouldn't worry me at all, as I don't steal cars (or anything else). That way they are still able to earn an honest living using their hands, but can't spread their defective genes.A slap on the wrist is taking the piss - agreed - but no chance at all of regretting doing it? You lose your hand at once or worse? Easy to speak for yourself but how about members of your family?
In case my brothers did something silly I`d prefer a legal system based around belief in the human being and the chance to redeem yourself. The price to pay is that certain scum gets off lightly, that is the price to pay for such freedom.
If you want to go backwards in time to the dark ages and start chopping parts off - go ahead. Move to some rural area in the middle-east, see how you fancy it. Nice if you are into throwing rocks as well... plenty of unfaithful female heads to aim at..
Edited by Alnassma on Tuesday 3rd July 12:43
filski666 said:
BigTom85 said:
Moving the OBD port to towards the centre console would do the job.
regulations dictate is MUST be located in a 300mm band between the steering centre line and the door on the driver's side.I presume there is nothing stopping you moving it afterwards?
thetapeworm said:
When the car is manufactured.
I presume there is nothing stopping you moving it afterwards?
nope - do as you please, it is your car.I presume there is nothing stopping you moving it afterwards?
The amount of stupid legislation that has to be adhered to in this industry is immense. What starts out as a way of creating a standard (ie for ODB ports so that servicing technicians can find them) becomes legislation and you are bound by it or you lose points in Thatcham / NCAP / etc ratings then people won't buy your cars even though the areas you lose points are irrelevent and pointless
Alnassma said:
Mr2Mike said:
Alnassma said:
You really want to live in a country cutting off bodyparts or worse - death - for stealing a car?
Yes, I'd be quite happy to see e.g. mandatory castration as a penalty for theft, though maybe only on a second offense. Wouldn't worry me at all, as I don't steal cars (or anything else). That way they are still able to earn an honest living using their hands, but can't spread their defective genes.A slap on the wrist is taking the piss - agreed - but no chance at all of regretting doing it? You lose your hand at once or worse? Easy to speak for yourself but how about members of your family?
In case my brothers did something silly I`d prefer a legal system based around belief in the human being and the chance to redeem yourself. The price to pay is that certain scum gets off lightly, that is the price to pay for such freedom.
If you want to go backwards in time to the dark ages and start chopping parts off - go ahead. Move to some rural area in the middle-east, see how you fancy it. Nice if you are into throwing rocks as well... plenty of unfaithful female heads to aim at..
Edited by Alnassma on Tuesday 3rd July 12:43
I say "your" son or anyone elses son deserves everything they get, I've been really drunk before but it didn't make me forget what was right and wrong. Even if it did, it is no defence to committing a crime, laws don't change dependant upon blood alcohol level.
The upshot of this is that scrotes don't get away with things and "sons" end up getting punished for what they've done wrong, 15 pints or not! I'd be happy with that. I'd rather "your" son ended up serving a 12 month sentence for his first offence instead of being let off, an expensive lesson perhaps but he's got to learn somehow the difference between right and wrong.
Mate im in my 20s and I dont have kids. I just tried another angle rather than "I will never steal so lets decapitate those who do". Maybe by imagining some relative commiting the crime rather than eastern european scrotes you would be more balanced in your view on punishment in general..
Not everyone doing something stupid are scum who deserve the harshest punishment possible.
Its important to remember that while car theft is a serious crime, it pales in comparison to other stuff.
YES its detestable, but stealing a car doesnt make you a murderer, rapist or paedophile...
Not everyone doing something stupid are scum who deserve the harshest punishment possible.
Its important to remember that while car theft is a serious crime, it pales in comparison to other stuff.
YES its detestable, but stealing a car doesnt make you a murderer, rapist or paedophile...
Edited by Alnassma on Tuesday 3rd July 13:16
Just open the ODB port up and resequence the wires, there are 16 No assuming that they are all used. This may slow them down.
I haven't read all the responses, but having been brought up in the middle east (UAE) I think a few missing hand may actually help reduce this activity.
Ok, a few people to start with won't know about the conseqences but after a few months most of the mongs doing this will cotten on.
I haven't read all the responses, but having been brought up in the middle east (UAE) I think a few missing hand may actually help reduce this activity.
Ok, a few people to start with won't know about the conseqences but after a few months most of the mongs doing this will cotten on.
freecar said:
I'd rather "your" son ended up serving a 12 month sentence for his first offence instead of being let off, an expensive lesson perhaps but he's got to learn somehow the difference between right and wrong.
Yes expensive for all of us. I'd sooner we spent less money than that working with 1st time low level offenders, so that they become a productive part of society paying tax etc, rather than alienated from society for 12 months, while learning the tricks of the trade, and coming out much better equipped and motivated to commit crime, and significantly lower job prospects.But that's just too much like common sense I guess.
ALawson said:
Just open the ODB port up and resequence the wires, there are 16 No assuming that they are all used. This may slow them down.
I haven't read all the responses, but having been brought up in the middle east (UAE) I think a few missing hand may actually help reduce this activity.
Ok, a few people to start with won't know about the conseqences but after a few months most of the mongs doing this will cotten on.
Then we have to pay disability allowance, convert their house, get them on the motability scheme for a car, and their job prospects are reduced. Rather than robbing us illegally. We'd be paying out more voluntarily.I haven't read all the responses, but having been brought up in the middle east (UAE) I think a few missing hand may actually help reduce this activity.
Ok, a few people to start with won't know about the conseqences but after a few months most of the mongs doing this will cotten on.
Great plan boss.loftylad said:
Firstly, OP, sorry to read about this. 
Utter Scum.
I watched the footage of the S3 being stolen the other week. Shocking.
The guys on here who think a great big dog in the house/garden will save them are dreaming. I don’t care how big and angry the dog is – these scumbag thieving maggots WILL deal with it.
One of my neighbours has a huge German Shepard (dog
) The thing scares me s
tless every time he walks it past me, but thieves broke into the house, did whatever they had to with the dog and locked it in an upstairs bedroom. They then took everything of value in the house plus his 2 motors from the driveway.
What I’m trying to say is – stealing cars are these no-good, low life, wasters JOBS. This is what they do to make a living. And some of them are extremely good at it.
You can have a ten big dogs, 3 locks on the OBD port, 12 CCTV cameras, switches in the boot, fuel switches, Car keys locked in a safe – but these stty wkers WILL take your car if they want it. It’s THAT simple.
I don’t know what the answer is, but I DO know that the answer is NOT to treat car crime like a petty, low rent offence as it is currently.
Car thieving scum know that the penalty Vs reward is totally worth it. If you took 43k from your local post office you would do serious time. Get caught for nicking a car and what happens? Community service? a slap on the wrist?
What would I do?
Seriously, this
First offence – Verbal warning plus graphic explanation of what will happen next time
2nd offence – remove finger from subdominant hand
3rd,4th,5th,6th offence – remove rest of fingers from subdominant hand in order
7th,8th,9th,10th,11th offence – remove fingers from dominant hand
My method has 2 possible outcomes. The thief a) comes to realise the error of his ways and stops early doors or b) is forced into early retirement when he can no longer operate keys/scanners/locks because of a lack of digits.
There is an added bonus to this system whereby these degenerate fks can be identified on a day to day basis by simply looking at their hands/stumps. (there is a slight problem for people who lose fingers in legitimate work related accidents etc, but I’ll put them down as collateral damage)
See your point but with thought you can make things difficult enough so they dont bother. Utter Scum.I watched the footage of the S3 being stolen the other week. Shocking.
The guys on here who think a great big dog in the house/garden will save them are dreaming. I don’t care how big and angry the dog is – these scumbag thieving maggots WILL deal with it.
One of my neighbours has a huge German Shepard (dog
) The thing scares me stless every time he walks it past me, but thieves broke into the house, did whatever they had to with the dog and locked it in an upstairs bedroom. They then took everything of value in the house plus his 2 motors from the driveway.What I’m trying to say is – stealing cars are these no-good, low life, wasters JOBS. This is what they do to make a living. And some of them are extremely good at it.
You can have a ten big dogs, 3 locks on the OBD port, 12 CCTV cameras, switches in the boot, fuel switches, Car keys locked in a safe – but these s
tty wkers WILL take your car if they want it. It’s THAT simple.I don’t know what the answer is, but I DO know that the answer is NOT to treat car crime like a petty, low rent offence as it is currently.
Car thieving scum know that the penalty Vs reward is totally worth it. If you took 43k from your local post office you would do serious time. Get caught for nicking a car and what happens? Community service? a slap on the wrist?
What would I do?
Seriously, this
First offence – Verbal warning plus graphic explanation of what will happen next time
2nd offence – remove finger from subdominant hand
3rd,4th,5th,6th offence – remove rest of fingers from subdominant hand in order
7th,8th,9th,10th,11th offence – remove fingers from dominant hand
My method has 2 possible outcomes. The thief a) comes to realise the error of his ways and stops early doors or b) is forced into early retirement when he can no longer operate keys/scanners/locks because of a lack of digits.
There is an added bonus to this system whereby these degenerate f
ks can be identified on a day to day basis by simply looking at their hands/stumps. (there is a slight problem for people who lose fingers in legitimate work related accidents etc, but I’ll put them down as collateral damage)Munter said:
freecar said:
I'd rather "your" son ended up serving a 12 month sentence for his first offence instead of being let off, an expensive lesson perhaps but he's got to learn somehow the difference between right and wrong.
Yes expensive for all of us. I'd sooner we spent less money than that working with 1st time low level offenders, so that they become a productive part of society paying tax etc, rather than alienated from society for 12 months, while learning the tricks of the trade, and coming out much better equipped and motivated to commit crime, and significantly lower job prospects.But that's just too much like common sense I guess.
Common sense not to punish criminals, I guess you're right, we'll save a load of money on prisons and stuff, seems like a winner!
Meanwhile, back on earth, the rest of use want to see criminals punished, you'll notice I'm not advocating amputation or any of the other severe methods being put forward by some just proper imprisonment.
freecar said:
Munter said:
freecar said:
I'd rather "your" son ended up serving a 12 month sentence for his first offence instead of being let off, an expensive lesson perhaps but he's got to learn somehow the difference between right and wrong.
Yes expensive for all of us. I'd sooner we spent less money than that working with 1st time low level offenders, so that they become a productive part of society paying tax etc, rather than alienated from society for 12 months, while learning the tricks of the trade, and coming out much better equipped and motivated to commit crime, and significantly lower job prospects.But that's just too much like common sense I guess.
Common sense not to punish criminals, I guess you're right, we'll save a load of money on prisons and stuff, seems like a winner!
Meanwhile, back on earth, the rest of use want to see criminals punished, you'll notice I'm not advocating amputation or any of the other severe methods being put forward by some just proper imprisonment.
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