Crashed my car on an untreated road
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Syndrome said:
julian64 said:
Do you think its wise to have taken a photo of a tyre with virtually no tread left on it. Either that or its a very bad angle for the photo.
they're brand new tyres the REO70s have got large tread blocks and they look knackered when they're not.If it doesn't, perhaps you should send this thread to Subaru customer services....
Edited by Redlake27 on Thursday 24th December 17:17
Syndrome said:
I was literaly crawling around at 5 mph with a Car with awd and I couldn't do a f
king thing to stop it.
Maybe you're just not very good at driving in these conditions? There's a different skill set that needs to be learned which isn't taught to UK drivers. I was out and about yesterday in appalling conditions in a 1.8 FWD A4, and whilst I got to my father's house alright without too much drama, he later took me out and taught me more about driving in such conditions and I was surprised how much quicker and safer my progress was with a few changes to my driving style.king thing to stop it.As for blaming the council, you could tell the roads were icy and went out driving anyway, it's your fault, not theirs. They grit the main roads and that's fine, I don't want all my tax spent on the massive cost of gritting every single tiny bloody road in the UK! And 6 accidents probably refers to minor incidents like yours, so not really a valid reason to grit it.
Bad luck OP. I share your pain!
Not down to ice, but my car just fell apart on me while driving along just 30 mins ago. The bolt sheared on the suspension causing the suspension to collapse and the car to hit the deck. Lucky I was only doing ~20MPH, in a further 50 meters time, I would have been doing 60/70MPH and would have been a passenger to that crash.
Hope you get it sorted!
Not down to ice, but my car just fell apart on me while driving along just 30 mins ago. The bolt sheared on the suspension causing the suspension to collapse and the car to hit the deck. Lucky I was only doing ~20MPH, in a further 50 meters time, I would have been doing 60/70MPH and would have been a passenger to that crash.
Hope you get it sorted!
Edited by Gingerbread Man on Thursday 24th December 18:21
Zod said:
johnfelstead said:
JensenA said:
....and the RE70's are a Summer tyre, in cold weather that nice sticky rubber goes hard and brittle, you may as well be driving around on some shiny plastic discs!
They are an all year tyre, just like your run of the mill tyre is, they wont work as well in the cold as they do in the warmer temperatures, just like all other all year tyres. The issue with them compared to more run of the mill designs in snow is simply down to a large block design that isn't going to clear the snow as well as a more open block design of tread pattern. The rubber compound is actually on the soft side, which is why they can generate grip and heat even with the larger block pattern, in cold temps the tyre has similar grip to any other normal tyre until the grooves are filled.Edited by johnfelstead on Thursday 24th December 00:05
Syndrome said:
The thing that really pisses me off is that I'd been driving around for the previous week in snowy slushy icy conditions and bar a couple of twitches and easily controlable slides I had no real dramas. It was the fact that the road that I turned off of was perfectly driveable but the side road i turned onto was completely undriveable by the time i noticed (about 1 second) I was already curb bound and nothing I tried to avoid the crunch worked. If there had of been people, animals , other parked cars I wouldn't have fancied their chances of getting out of the way because they would have had no grip either. It was actualy quite fortunate that the kerb was the only thing to hit.
The lesson from this episode is use your eyes and concentrate more, you should have easily spotted how iced up that road was before you turned in, and you should have been looking for it knowing side roads arnt gritted to the same extent as the main roads.
Traction A - Means they are really st in the wet, think ditchfinder tastic
Treadwear 120 - means a soft compound that possibly seriously hardens when cold
No Rain Sipes - st when wet
Large blocks that can't flex when cold - like driving on plastic
Probably the most dangerous type of tyre in sub zero conditions, I would like to think that PH type drivers knew a little more about the tyres they were driving on.
Info on ratings here
http://www.etyres.co.uk/tyres-ratings-nhtsa/tyre-t...
t in the wet, think ditchfinder tasticTreadwear 120 - means a soft compound that possibly seriously hardens when cold
No Rain Sipes - s
t when wetLarge blocks that can't flex when cold - like driving on plastic
Probably the most dangerous type of tyre in sub zero conditions, I would like to think that PH type drivers knew a little more about the tyres they were driving on.
Info on ratings here
http://www.etyres.co.uk/tyres-ratings-nhtsa/tyre-t...
robuk said:
hondafanatic said:
10 Pence Short said:
vxsmithers said:
Syndrome said:
only to find a zero grip sheet ice with oil on it surface and a high curb which removed my front wheel.
Oil AND Ice, probably swerved for a biker filtering as well 
I have some Michelin Pilot Primacy tyres on the front of my Civic in 225/45/17 flavour and I can confirm they have NO and I do meen NO grip in the snow.
They are a sort of similar tread patern to the OP's tyres. The solid centre band and tread type mean they just cannot deal with snow or ice.
SWMBO's little fiesta has some skinny fairly chuncky but normal tyres and it is like a little mountain goat (a two hoof drive one that is!) and has coped really well in these conditions.
They are a sort of similar tread patern to the OP's tyres. The solid centre band and tread type mean they just cannot deal with snow or ice.
SWMBO's little fiesta has some skinny fairly chuncky but normal tyres and it is like a little mountain goat (a two hoof drive one that is!) and has coped really well in these conditions.
Oh my!
What a pile of ordure.
Coming from Scotland I thought I knew a little about driving on snow. I have learned more in the last week in SW England than in the last 15 years during whichn I have forgotten the basic techniques.
NO THROTTLE NO BRAKES NO SUDDEN MANOUEVRES! DO NOT EVER DECLUTCH BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES, BETTER TO STALL. BUY CHAINS..THEY REALLY WORK.
I had become weather lazy and relearned from scratch.
Take care and be safe,
merry christmas
niall
What a pile of ordure.
Coming from Scotland I thought I knew a little about driving on snow. I have learned more in the last week in SW England than in the last 15 years during whichn I have forgotten the basic techniques.
NO THROTTLE NO BRAKES NO SUDDEN MANOUEVRES! DO NOT EVER DECLUTCH BEFORE YOU THINK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES, BETTER TO STALL. BUY CHAINS..THEY REALLY WORK.
I had become weather lazy and relearned from scratch.
Take care and be safe,
merry christmas
niall
I just drove to Ft William & back from Inverness.
Went from zero to -5c, the road was pretty damn good 98% of the way, but there was a proper cock in a VW ppl carrier who thought I wanted a race....when in fact, I merely wanted past!!!
Anyway, I made it there & back at high speeds without a problem.
110 miles, yet the worst road was in our estate!
Go figure.
Went from zero to -5c, the road was pretty damn good 98% of the way, but there was a proper cock in a VW ppl carrier who thought I wanted a race....when in fact, I merely wanted past!!!
Anyway, I made it there & back at high speeds without a problem.
110 miles, yet the worst road was in our estate!
Go figure.
We are currently in giggleswick near settle just gritted the roads at last
But on way here nearly ended up in a river as sat nav took us on a "short cut"
Came to a hairpin bend at about 10/15mph and just went straight on stopped 5 foot before a river
Did not help having a mondeo on dry weather tires full of people and luggage thankfully people round here are far friendlier than around the st hole called Walsall we live in and someone got a tractor to pull us out within 10 minutes of us crashing 
Damage looks like 2 new wings and 3 door will need a respray :/
ESP also seems to have died as have to turn it off to make any progress on snowy roads as it keeps killing the power and now it is just flashing error on the dash etc....
But on way here nearly ended up in a river as sat nav took us on a "short cut"
Came to a hairpin bend at about 10/15mph and just went straight on stopped 5 foot before a river
Did not help having a mondeo on dry weather tires full of people and luggage thankfully people round here are far friendlier than around the s
t hole called Walsall we live in and someone got a tractor to pull us out within 10 minutes of us crashing Damage looks like 2 new wings and 3 door will need a respray :/
ESP also seems to have died as have to turn it off to make any progress on snowy roads as it keeps killing the power and now it is just flashing error on the dash etc....
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