Smoking with your kids in the car?
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It isnt "her" child, the car belongs to her as it is a possesion, the child belongs to itself but doesnt have the ability to object, the adult has a duty of care that doesnt involve polluting the air the child breathes, sure, worse things go on and it has happened for decades but that doesnt make it alright given the information we have.
Thing is, people then turn out kids with issues, like the dope trout we know that smoked and drank her way through her pregnancy and now has a child with issues (Chronic Astha, learning difficulties and Autism), a motability car, carers allowance and a degree of sympathy, I am fairly certain if she had looked after herself and her unborn child we wouldnt have another child that needs additional support from the state, same as those that breed with their cousins and then wonder why the kids has two heads. No parent gets it 100 percent nailed on correct but there are some basic tenets that dont really need debate.
Thing is, people then turn out kids with issues, like the dope trout we know that smoked and drank her way through her pregnancy and now has a child with issues (Chronic Astha, learning difficulties and Autism), a motability car, carers allowance and a degree of sympathy, I am fairly certain if she had looked after herself and her unborn child we wouldnt have another child that needs additional support from the state, same as those that breed with their cousins and then wonder why the kids has two heads. No parent gets it 100 percent nailed on correct but there are some basic tenets that dont really need debate.
CapriV6S said:
Ok, I agree its a far from acceptable scenario, but whats anyone going to do about it???
Bleat on about it on a car site?
Yeah, not a lot you can actually do, will agree on that.Bleat on about it on a car site?
I think if you went round intervening in everything the rest of the public did that annoyed you, you would end up getting stressed, punched or arrested.
J4CKO said:
Yeah, not a lot you can actually do, will agree on that.
I think if you went round intervening in everything the rest of the public did that annoyed you, you would end up getting stressed, punched or arrested.
Although before we all got rich and demanded the State did everything for us as we had become too important that is exactly what people used to do. I think if you went round intervening in everything the rest of the public did that annoyed you, you would end up getting stressed, punched or arrested.
CapriV6S said:
Sorry Heebeegeetee, bn a difficult day. Have steam coming out of my ears, nothing to do with this site.
Fair enough, no worries.PH is a big site where we talk about all sorts. The OP did have a motoring theme, in that he was discussing something that we all might often see whilst out driving.
And having just re-read the OP - yeah, there's a small baby inside car, babies are by definition weak, vulnerable and susceptible to infection, and the adults in its life are happy to smoke in a confined space in its presence. The baby is being harmed imo and there is nothing the baby can do about it.
Apart from anything else, if you've been blessed with a beautiful little baby, why would anyone want to make it stink of tobacco? It is an astonishingly selfish thing to do, but addictions can be very powerful, the judgement of an addict is affected, and addicts see little wrong in putting themselves before children or babies.
And under my dictatorship, it wouldn't be allowed. Such people would be sent to the same penal colony as slow drivers.
CapriV6S said:
That poor babies goin to be brown with smoke by now.
Thus, saving a fortune on fake tan. 
On a serious note, I'm a smoker but don't smoke indoors or in cars with the kids.
I find it baffling and depressing that in the modern age when we know so much more about the health risks people would chose to smoke in cars or around children. Adults can ask someone to stop or move away. Children can't.
But, the simple reality is that you cannot stop stupid people from being stupid and all this legislation in the last couple of decades hasn't changed anything. It's just given jobs to weasels and cost us more and more money.
Sure, let's press on with the education on these matters but peer pressure is stronger, smarter and more beneficial to society than pointless legislation.
NobleGuy said:
Fair answer 
I'm not really of the belief that I'll catch cancer by walking behind a smoker in the park one day, but I would be inclined to believe an infant in the back of a car exposed consistently isn't going to benefit very much.
Its the point I've been trying to make. If you think you are at risk from a whiff of someone else's smoke you are completely misled by the missinformation about passive smoking. Catching the odd whiff puts you in the category of control group people who are not exposed and carry no risk. I'm not really of the belief that I'll catch cancer by walking behind a smoker in the park one day, but I would be inclined to believe an infant in the back of a car exposed consistently isn't going to benefit very much.
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