Why driverless car's are a LONG way off.

[swamp]

The monthly reports from Google are worth a read. They now have nearly 60 cars in 4 states, in total driving up to 15,000 autonomous miles per week:

https://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/reports/

[Emeye]

It seems that BMW think autonomous is the future, in preference to electric bizarrely...

http://m.autoevolution.com/bmw-can-t-do-electric-a...

I would have thought the two go hand in hand. It's easier to control an electric motor than an ICE is it not thanks to the instant response?

[Impasse]

youngsyr said:

Google cars now know when to honk the horn:

http://www.engadget.com/2016/06/02/googles-self-dr...

Is it just after they press the "save" button on the dashcam?

[CoolHands]

We can't even get driverless trains, and they run on rails. driverless cars are a daydream.

[The Vambo]

CoolHands said:

We can't even get driverless trains, and they run on rails. driverless cars are a daydream.

Is your car unionised?

[technodup]

We really need a dinosaur smilie for this thread. Or a flat earth one.

[Impasse]

technodup said:

We really need a dinosaur smilie for this thread. Or a flat earth one.

Or a Jetsons one.

[rich888]

CoolHands said:

We can't even get driverless trains, and they run on rails. driverless cars are a daydream.

I think the fact that we don't currently have driverless trains is more down to draconian union objections rather than for technological reasons.

Autonomous cars are coming whether we like it or not, and to be honest, for basic commuting or long distance driving on motorways or main roads I think they are an excellent idea.

[skyrover]

Another bit of "food for thought"

How similar are autonomous car's to the pathfinding in racing/car based videogames

How reliable is the pathfinding in those games?

Will modern autonomous car's be better than their virtual counterparts?

[The Vambo]

skyrover said:

Another bit of "food for thought"

And that food would be Hákarl.

[smn159]

The driverless revolution can't come soon enough as far as I'm concerned. I'm already imagining my early morning commute without some fkwit in an Audi TDI trying to kill me - and maybe housing developments can be designed around people instead of cars.

[Aphex]

I imagine this has been posted already but its worth watching again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXls4cdEv7c

[skyrover]

The Vambo said:

skyrover said:

Another bit of "food for thought"

And that food would be Hákarl.

Still tastes better than autonomous driving at the moment

[The Vambo]

skyrover said:

The Vambo said:

skyrover said:

Another bit of "food for thought"

And that food would be Hákarl.

Still tastes better than autonomous driving at the moment

Is this a random word generation Bot?

[technodup]

Aphex said:

I imagine this has been posted already but its worth watching again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXls4cdEv7c

I know he's probably not actually sleeping, and that autopilot doesn't do everything but do the naysayers really think those drivers around him would prefer what they've got to what he's got?

The idea that the public won't want some of that is absurd. The idea that this isn't happening already/won't happen properly/won't take off in a massive way is equally absurd.

People's inherent resistance to change will be consumed by their inherent laziness. As soon as this is viable and cost effective people will be queuing up for them.

[98elise]

Coolbanana said:

technodup said:

I hate driving. The only time I remember enjoying it was on a Highland road from Grantown on Spey to Forres. Then I 'got it'. Empty, twisty and quick on a nice day. But the rest of the time? Traffic lights, roadworks, congestion, 20 speed limits, speed humps and other drivers being idiots? You can keep it.

Exactly, but a lot of Pistonheaders cannot get their heads around the idea that one can enjoy cars AND prefer Driverless vehicles for the Rush Hour Commute.

Agreed. How many horse, boat, classic car/bike owners drive their hobby to work. The majority will have a sensible choice as daily transport. I have an elise, but for my 130 mile commute I have a comfortable, warm, quiet car. If it could drive itself all the better.

I'm part way there with a tesla on order.

The only thing that concerns me is that we could see manual driving banned at some point. I love the idea of an electric daily driver (hence the tesla) however I always saw it as an alternative, not a replacment to ICE. If reports are true then we are starting to see the end of ICE's in some countries. The same could be true of manual driving.

Edited by 98elise on Saturday 4th June 15:53

[SmoothCriminal]

CoolHands said:

We can't even get driverless trains, and they run on rails. driverless cars are a daydream.

There are driverless trains the underground has several lines likewise the Dlr just because they sit in a cab doesn't mean they're driving it.

The only reason it's not on a national scale is the cost of implementing the signalling technology and the complex nature of the victorian infrastructure.

Motor vehicles have no such problem.

[MarshPhantom]

MG CHRIS said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

smn159 said:

They represent change and for that reason alone some people will feel uncomfortable with them. Personally I'd have one in a shot if I could put my feet up and watch the telly during my commute.

me 2

an extra 3 hours sleep a day, or with electrochromic glass and extra 3 hours of gentlemans special intrest videos a day

Which wont happen because you will have to be in charge if things go wrong which makes them pointless.

Exactly that. Will I be able to have 10 pints and get driven home from the pub? I doubt it.

I don't believe they'll take off in a major way anytime soon.

[youngsyr]

skyrover said:

Another bit of "food for thought"

How similar are autonomous car's to the pathfinding in racing/car based videogames

How reliable is the pathfinding in those games?

Will modern autonomous car's be better than their virtual counterparts?

What do you mean by "pathfinding"? Ability to move through traffic? Do you see many crashes in say Grand Theft Auto that aren't caused by human piloted vehicles?!

[youngsyr]

technodup said:

Aphex said:

I imagine this has been posted already but its worth watching again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXls4cdEv7c

I know he's probably not actually sleeping, and that autopilot doesn't do everything but do the naysayers really think those drivers around him would prefer what they've got to what he's got?

The idea that the public won't want some of that is absurd. The idea that this isn't happening already/won't happen properly/won't take off in a massive way is equally absurd.

People's inherent resistance to change will be consumed by their inherent laziness. As soon as this is viable and cost effective people will be queuing up for them.

Agreed. It's the inevitable end of a trend that started back with cruise control - who would bother with an option for a car to maintain a set speed on its own? Why wouldn't you just use the accelerator? Who is liable if the car crashes whilst cruise control is active? The first crash will be the end of it! Insurance would be a nightmare! Etc. Etc.