VW Golf 7 R -- Chipped -- 0 to 60 in 4 Seconds...
Discussion
ORD said:
You could presumably remap the M3 to make it 'crush' the remapped VW, too. All pointless willy waiving nonsense.
Once you start modifying cars, you should only compare them to other modified cars that are aiming at the same thing.
At the risk of being called a troll... I don’t think a remap will do much to the new M3 if all you care about is 0-60. Once you start modifying cars, you should only compare them to other modified cars that are aiming at the same thing.
0-60 is mostly about traction at this point and the M3 has traction issues all the way up to third gear while the Golf R chirps off the line and that’s it.
A few fanboys on this thread, the Golf R has 197bhp/tonne out of the box and is the same to 62 as a diesel 3 series estate.
Comparing it to the new M3/4 is laughable, a car that hits 100mph in less than 9 secs to 100 (stock) with over 260hp/tonne.
Any turbo car can be chipped and fettled.
Oh and Lamboman100 = Vladimir, AICMFP.
Comparing it to the new M3/4 is laughable, a car that hits 100mph in less than 9 secs to 100 (stock) with over 260hp/tonne.
Any turbo car can be chipped and fettled.
Oh and Lamboman100 = Vladimir, AICMFP.
StottyEvo said:
Usually I simply ignore delusional people, for some reason I'm finding you difficult to ignore 
How can you use the term "rally geeks" to justify your own delusion that these cars are not comparable? You also cherry pick figures!
60-100 MK7 Golf R takes 7.7
60-100 MK2 Cupra R takes 7.8
60-100 Mk2 Focus RS 500 takes 6.4 seconds ffs!!
All figures taken from fastestlaps.
It seems that making a hatchback 4wd is revolutionary in your eyes.
The Golf 7 R appears to be so revolutionary it's a whole 0.5 seconds faster 60-100 than a 10 year old 130i. That's a massive step up, I mean a whole half a second, with all the extra turbos and fake 4wd shenanigans. VW must be proud. How can you use the term "rally geeks" to justify your own delusion that these cars are not comparable? You also cherry pick figures!
60-100 MK7 Golf R takes 7.7
60-100 MK2 Cupra R takes 7.8
60-100 Mk2 Focus RS 500 takes 6.4 seconds ffs!!
All figures taken from fastestlaps.
It seems that making a hatchback 4wd is revolutionary in your eyes.
bodhi said:
The Golf 7 R appears to be so revolutionary it's a whole 0.5 seconds faster 60-100 than a 10 year old 130i. That's a massive step up, I mean a whole half a second, with all the extra turbos and fake 4wd shenanigans. VW must be proud.
I think the most amazing thing is that the 1-Series is now 10 years old...where did that time go?bodhi said:
StottyEvo said:
Usually I simply ignore delusional people, for some reason I'm finding you difficult to ignore
How can you use the term "rally geeks" to justify your own delusion that these cars are not comparable? You also cherry pick figures!
60-100 MK7 Golf R takes 7.7
60-100 MK2 Cupra R takes 7.8
60-100 Mk2 Focus RS 500 takes 6.4 seconds ffs!!
All figures taken from fastestlaps.
It seems that making a hatchback 4wd is revolutionary in your eyes.
The Golf 7 R appears to be so revolutionary it's a whole 0.5 seconds faster 60-100 than a 10 year old 130i. That's a massive step up, I mean a whole half a second, with all the extra turbos and fake 4wd shenanigans. VW must be proud. How can you use the term "rally geeks" to justify your own delusion that these cars are not comparable? You also cherry pick figures!
60-100 MK7 Golf R takes 7.7
60-100 MK2 Cupra R takes 7.8
60-100 Mk2 Focus RS 500 takes 6.4 seconds ffs!!
All figures taken from fastestlaps.
It seems that making a hatchback 4wd is revolutionary in your eyes.
BMW M135i vs Golf R
0-60 4.5 vs 4.7
60-100 6.4 vs 7.7
It remaps just as easily and is as good on fuel with proven reliability.
The only possible argument is that the Golf is 4wd... The BMW also comes in an xdrive version
(although I'm not sure if you can get them in the UK) StottyEvo said:
That just reminded me about a recent hatchback that had a lot of hype around it last year :P Which is priced similar to the Golf and incidentally is quite a lot faster.
BMW M135i vs Golf R
0-60 4.5 vs 4.7
60-100 6.4 vs 7.7
It remaps just as easily and is as good on fuel with proven reliability.
The only possible argument is that the Golf is 4wd... The BMW also comes in an xdrive version (although I'm not sure if you can get them in the UK)
funnily enough I was coming back to post about the M135i - so VW have moved the game on to be slower than the competition from a year ago. Damn they're good at this BMW M135i vs Golf R
0-60 4.5 vs 4.7
60-100 6.4 vs 7.7
It remaps just as easily and is as good on fuel with proven reliability.
The only possible argument is that the Golf is 4wd... The BMW also comes in an xdrive version
(although I'm not sure if you can get them in the UK) 
ORD said:
The M135i is hard to look beyond if you want a fast turbo hatchback (at least down south where it barely ever snows and AWD is pointless except for 0-60 times).
If you want a Focus / Golf-sized performance hatch that isn't FWD / FWD-based, the 1-Series is now the ONLY choice (the Impreza hatch now only comes with a 1.6). Shame we don't get the option of AWD in RHD markets though....not that you need it.Clivey said:
ORD said:
The M135i is hard to look beyond if you want a fast turbo hatchback (at least down south where it barely ever snows and AWD is pointless except for 0-60 times).
If you want a Focus / Golf-sized performance hatch that isn't FWD / FWD-based, the 1-Series is now the ONLY choice (the Impreza hatch now only comes with a 1.6). Shame we don't get the option of AWD in RHD markets though....not that you need it.The only hot hatch that I can actually get remotely excited about is the R32.
bigkeeko said:
People can say what they like but Cock waving is everything to most people
Point scoring and being `in front` is life to the majority.
Well said. Somebody who actually puts their hands up and tells it as it is. A sizeable % of PHers, certainly those who have seen or replied to this and similar threads, always have such fripperies as 0-60 or 0-100 times etc in the back of their mind. Those shouting its willy waving are only fooling one person. Themselves. I think its probably more about vw golf r haters wanting to poo poo the thread via any distraction they can muster such as fake 4wd systems, 0.5sec improvements in 10 years over a 135i or whatever or in this case the willy waving.thats just a moral high ground cop out.if i was a betting man i reckon the willy waving performance figures means more to the haters than those who openly discuss them.Point scoring and being `in front` is life to the majority.
xRIEx said:
ORD said:
I certainly prefer FWD to AWD ...
... I wouldn't want more power than about 200bhp in a hatch anyway.
The only hot hatch that I can actually get remotely excited about is the R32.
Qué?... I wouldn't want more power than about 200bhp in a hatch anyway.
The only hot hatch that I can actually get remotely excited about is the R32.
lamboman100 said:
rb5er said:
lamboman100 said:
The GTI 1 ushered in the hot-hatch era in 1975. The R 7 has ushered in the super-hatch era in 2013 / 2014.
Fanboi perhaps?You hadn`t notice a particularly fast hatchback until this car really?
Everyday shopping trolleys are entering a new era of fast speeds and turbos.
No longer the preserve of six-figure cars or rally geeks.
Really are you saying no car was there before it? Howsabout the impreza STI hatch doing the same thing years ago? Did that not "usher in an era"? or perhaps the Lancia Delta Integrale and Escort Cosworth etc did it 20 years ago?
Saying the Golf has somehow ushered in an era that these cars have been representing for years just seems like fanboyism unless you just forgot that others have been around a long time.
Rally geeks? Really? This is a petrolhead site.
So how is "the game changing" as you put it?
ToothbrushMan said:
bigkeeko said:
People can say what they like but Cock waving is everything to most people
Point scoring and being `in front` is life to the majority.
Well said. Somebody who actually puts their hands up and tells it as it is. A sizeable % of PHers, certainly those who have seen or replied to this and similar threads, always have such fripperies as 0-60 or 0-100 times etc in the back of their mind. Those shouting its willy waving are only fooling one person. Themselves. I think its probably more about vw golf r haters wanting to poo poo the thread via any distraction they can muster such as fake 4wd systems, 0.5sec improvements in 10 years over a 135i or whatever or in this case the willy waving.thats just a moral high ground cop out.if i was a betting man i reckon the willy waving performance figures means more to the haters than those who openly discuss them.Point scoring and being `in front` is life to the majority.
rb5er said:
But you said the new Golf has "ushered in the superhatch era".
Really are you saying no car was there before it? Howsabout the impreza STI hatch doing the same thing years ago? Did that not "usher in an era"? or perhaps the Lancia Delta Integrale and Escort Cosworth etc did it 20 years ago?
Saying the Golf has somehow ushered in an era that these cars have been representing for years just seems like fanboyism unless you just forgot that others have been around a long time.
Rally geeks? Really? This is a petrolhead site.
So how is "the game changing" as you put it?
Indeed, even VAG themselves have been doing it, exact same formula in the fifteen year-old S3.Really are you saying no car was there before it? Howsabout the impreza STI hatch doing the same thing years ago? Did that not "usher in an era"? or perhaps the Lancia Delta Integrale and Escort Cosworth etc did it 20 years ago?
Saying the Golf has somehow ushered in an era that these cars have been representing for years just seems like fanboyism unless you just forgot that others have been around a long time.
Rally geeks? Really? This is a petrolhead site.
So how is "the game changing" as you put it?
lamboman100 said:
Good video footage of a VW G7R hunting down a yellow Ferrari 458 at the Ring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdKku0SY0ek&fe...
That Golf sounds completely rubbish.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdKku0SY0ek&fe...
NomduJour said:
lamboman100 said:
Good video footage of a VW G7R hunting down a yellow Ferrari 458 at the Ring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdKku0SY0ek&fe...
That Golf sounds completely rubbish.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdKku0SY0ek&fe...
And the fez is out of sight in the faster sections. What a surprise?!? Lots of visible understeer from the golf. Who would have guessed the results between a 300hp shopping cart and a modern f car round the turdburg ring? Hunting down my arse.
twaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
Edited by Studio117 on Monday 4th August 21:28
rb5er said:
lamboman100 said:
rb5er said:
lamboman100 said:
The GTI 1 ushered in the hot-hatch era in 1975. The R 7 has ushered in the super-hatch era in 2013 / 2014.
Fanboi perhaps?You hadn`t notice a particularly fast hatchback until this car really?
Everyday shopping trolleys are entering a new era of fast speeds and turbos.
No longer the preserve of six-figure cars or rally geeks.
Really are you saying no car was there before it? Howsabout the impreza STI hatch doing the same thing years ago? Did that not "usher in an era"? or perhaps the Lancia Delta Integrale and Escort Cosworth etc did it 20 years ago?
Saying the Golf has somehow ushered in an era that these cars have been representing for years just seems like fanboyism unless you just forgot that others have been around a long time.
Rally geeks? Really? This is a petrolhead site.
So how is "the game changing" as you put it?
The Golf R can be driven by everyone, from chavs to millionaires.
And to look at the bigger picture -- the Golf R is step 1... step 2 is the R400 and AMG A45 "Black Series"... both of which will soon be M3- and 911-killers at lower prices.
The Golf R is selling in much bigger volumes than VW expected (currently up to 6 months' wait for a new one, which is long, by VW and other standards)... Once the other major car makers get wind of the R's popularity, they are going to join the race to build the best superhatch -- the Ford ST and RS models, for example, are already starting to look a little slow and dated by comparison (a second or more slower to 60mph).
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff