RE: New Toyota GR Yaris revealed with 280hp
Discussion
Phil. said:
Out of interest, what’s the maximum you would pay for the new model, if as suggested, Toyota allocate only a few hundred to the UK?
I want manual so a max of 40k, if they offered me only an auto allocation I'd probably be willing to pay upto 42-43k but will openly admit I'd not trade the current GR against an Auto, I'd keep both and decide a few months down the line which one I was keeping.Ideally I want a manual in grey with as many extras/options as possible with a budget of 40k cash or 0% if they offer it as then cash can stay in the bank making 5%.
Gibbo205 said:
I want manual so a max of 40k, if they offered me only an auto allocation I'd probably be willing to pay upto 42-43k but will openly admit I'd not trade the current GR against an Auto, I'd keep both and decide a few months down the line which one I was keeping.
Ideally I want a manual in grey with as many extras/options as possible with a budget of 40k cash or 0% if they offer it as then cash can stay in the bank making 5%.
That would be the ideal situation However, if they limit numbers to the 100’s in the UK then I think Toyota will add another £5k to those prices and still sell out immediately. That would probably be breakeven pricing after the losses on the Mk1. Ideally I want a manual in grey with as many extras/options as possible with a budget of 40k cash or 0% if they offer it as then cash can stay in the bank making 5%.
We’ll soon find out.
Phil. said:
Gibbo205 said:
I want manual so a max of 40k, if they offered me only an auto allocation I'd probably be willing to pay upto 42-43k but will openly admit I'd not trade the current GR against an Auto, I'd keep both and decide a few months down the line which one I was keeping.
Ideally I want a manual in grey with as many extras/options as possible with a budget of 40k cash or 0% if they offer it as then cash can stay in the bank making 5%.
That would be the ideal situation However, if they limit numbers to the 100’s in the UK then I think Toyota will add another £5k to those prices and still sell out immediately. That would probably be breakeven pricing after the losses on the Mk1. Ideally I want a manual in grey with as many extras/options as possible with a budget of 40k cash or 0% if they offer it as then cash can stay in the bank making 5%.
We’ll soon find out.
But I'm just guessing based on my experience of the industry and we'll have to wait to March to hear officially
martin12345 said:
...now they've decided to make it a mainstream model...
Nothing has changed in this regard. It's being sold on exactly the same basis as the previous model; they make and sell as many as they can, but production is constrained by factory output and demand will vastly exceed supply.Translation: you're gonna need to wait
Gibbo205 said:
I want manual so a max of 40k, if they offered me only an auto allocation I'd probably be willing to pay upto 42-43k but will openly admit I'd not trade the current GR against an Auto, I'd keep both and decide a few months down the line which one I was keeping.
Ideally I want a manual in grey with as many extras/options as possible with a budget of 40k cash or 0% if they offer it as then cash can stay in the bank making 5%.
It’s a nice thought, but I think offering 0% finance is a little unlikely this time around. Pricing will be interesting, but I think they may well try and bring it in under £40k for tax reasons. Ideally I want a manual in grey with as many extras/options as possible with a budget of 40k cash or 0% if they offer it as then cash can stay in the bank making 5%.
Judging by the delivery miles Mk1's that seem to be advertised at around £40k by the flippers, but that don't often seem to sell very quickly, I would have thought that £40k might now be a bit of a stretch for one of these.
I wonder when the flippers with delivery mile MK1's still hanging in there will realise that the game is up for punters paying over the odds for one of these.
I wonder when the flippers with delivery mile MK1's still hanging in there will realise that the game is up for punters paying over the odds for one of these.
ledz said:
My mates 2022 gr Yaris 6000m on the clock
WBAC valuation last Friday 31400
Wbac valuation last night £29000
WBAC values are up and down like a yo-yo. I don’t think Friday’s announcement has fed back into auction results as yet! WBAC valuation last Friday 31400
Wbac valuation last night £29000
Regards the flippers - yes, they need to get on with selling these cars now, unless they intend to hang on indefinitely and keep long term. Anyone storing one of these, missing it on driving it in the hope of making money needs to take a long look at themselves in my view.
bencollins4 said:
WBAC values are up and down like a yo-yo. I don’t think Friday’s announcement has fed back into auction results as yet!
Regards the flippers - yes, they need to get on with selling these cars now, unless they intend to hang on indefinitely and keep long term. Anyone storing one of these, missing it on driving it in the hope of making money needs to take a long look at themselves in my view.
Exactly, there are already more than 5,000 of the MK1 GRY in the UK. Hardly a rare or exclusive car any more.Regards the flippers - yes, they need to get on with selling these cars now, unless they intend to hang on indefinitely and keep long term. Anyone storing one of these, missing it on driving it in the hope of making money needs to take a long look at themselves in my view.
D.S. said:
Exactly, there are already more than 5,000 of the MK1 GRY in the UK. Hardly a rare or exclusive car any more.
It still is though isn’t it. There’s 9,000 focus RS’s across 3 mk’s and they’re considered rare or exclusive. This is the mk2 and who knows how many will be sold even if they match the same sales in the UK that’s 10,000 cars sold in 8 years of it follows current production numbers. ecsrobin said:
D.S. said:
Exactly, there are already more than 5,000 of the MK1 GRY in the UK. Hardly a rare or exclusive car any more.
It still is though isn’t it. There’s 9,000 focus RS’s across 3 mk’s and they’re considered rare or exclusive. This is the mk2 and who knows how many will be sold even if they match the same sales in the UK that’s 10,000 cars sold in 8 years of it follows current production numbers. So no, the GRY is not a rare car. I see probably 2-3 a week round here. Could count on one hand then number of times I have seen an RS2 on the road, in my whole life.
The last years since the financial crisis and ultra low interest rates/easy credit have been an anomaly that has distorted the market.
Phil. said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I'm too much of an engine snob to consider a 3 cylinder engined car, and the engine just doesn't get my juices flowing enough to buy one of these. I'm just too old fashioned I reckon.
You still haven’t driven a GR have you It’s a brilliant engine with loads of torque. I’m nearly 60 and have owned more V8’s that I can count on two hands including a couple of remapped, decatted Cerb’s.
In terms of noise, granted a 3 cylinder will never sound like a 6 or an 8, but it has a more interesting noise than most 4s.
D.S. said:
ecsrobin said:
D.S. said:
Exactly, there are already more than 5,000 of the MK1 GRY in the UK. Hardly a rare or exclusive car any more.
It still is though isn’t it. There’s 9,000 focus RS’s across 3 mk’s and they’re considered rare or exclusive. This is the mk2 and who knows how many will be sold even if they match the same sales in the UK that’s 10,000 cars sold in 8 years of it follows current production numbers. So no, the GRY is not a rare car. I see probably 2-3 a week round here. Could count on one hand then number of times I have seen an RS2 on the road, in my whole life.
The last years since the financial crisis and ultra low interest rates/easy credit have been an anomaly that has distorted the market.
Without defining what is a rare car we can go round all day in circles.
solopb said:
Would you REALLY want to drive it on Britains Camera infested Roads, yes you could pop down a B road, problem is is the Push bike GIRLS,and boys, and the odd Horse. MEGA CAR ..
I agree with part of your statement locally we have a fantastic A road the A272 but now due to it's popularity it has average speed cameras. Last year I part organised a Lexus RCF owners meeting at the British Motor Museum along with average speed cameras and traffic queues the journey was a nightmare and one I'm not inclined to do again.But if I turn right at the end of the road where I live there are miles and miles of what I call B road or Yaris GR heaven. Fortunately there aren't that many horses or cyclist on my chosen routes which I guess is just luck. I'm of the opinion that the GR Yaris with it's small dimensions along with decent local B roads are about the only place to enjoy your driving.
One other thing the GR Yaris has in it's favour is the high seating position it enables a far better view of what's ahead, I did own a modified VX220 Turbo but because you sat so low the same roads weren't quite as enjoyable.
So taking the RS2 as an example.
1,090,690 were produced of the Audi 80
2891 RS2’s produced
So 0.27% of all cars were RS2’s.
For Toyota:
Over 10,000,000 produced as of March 2023 (715,000 in the UK as of that date) and 300,000 annually produced just from the French factory so let’s call it
10,300,000 for the numbers here as we have the latest Yaris numbers.
32,000 GR Yaris ordered/produced to date.
So 0.25% of all cars are a GR Yaris.
So the Yaris is a rarer car when looking at both of them against their mainstream cars they were produced from.
1,090,690 were produced of the Audi 80
2891 RS2’s produced
So 0.27% of all cars were RS2’s.
For Toyota:
Over 10,000,000 produced as of March 2023 (715,000 in the UK as of that date) and 300,000 annually produced just from the French factory so let’s call it
10,300,000 for the numbers here as we have the latest Yaris numbers.
32,000 GR Yaris ordered/produced to date.
So 0.25% of all cars are a GR Yaris.
So the Yaris is a rarer car when looking at both of them against their mainstream cars they were produced from.
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