Prostester advocating criminal damage to 4x4s
Discussion
David Rose said:
The 'arguments' expressed on this forum expose all the desperate excuses to 'justify' 4x4 ownership for what they really are: Climate Change denial and anti-social selfishness. 4x4 drivers are criminals. They kill pedestrians/cyclists in greater numbers than the drivers of smaller vehicles and the vast energy use in the construction and fueling of 4x4s is producing excess planet warming carbon that has no social or moral justification. The majority of the posts by 4x4 drivers are so aggressive and repulsive that at least our anti4x4 campaign can thank them for doing our work for us: ie: making 4x4 ownership uncool and socially unacceptable. Thanks guys! Please be aware that if you carry on making threats to ‘remove my eyes with a spoon’, then I will have to go to the Police. Your desire to buy and drive a stupid vehicle does not justify murder. The point is that we all have to do as much as we humanly can RIGHT NOW to reduce our carbon output in this Climate Emergency and 4x4 owners are refusing to take even the first step towards their own personal carbon reduction. In effect they are saying: '**CK YOU' to looming climate chaos and the rest of us cannot allow 4x4 drivers to carry on doing this. Your threats of violence, harassment and intimidation will only strengthen the resolve of this campaign and ensure it’s eventual success . 4x4s are going to be driven out of Bristol. I give you my word on that.
Get a job, and a life, you pathetic little idiot. Your arguments are unproven and unjustified, and your ramblings are that of a moron who reads the Daily Mail far too much.
Despite our best efforts the now clearly bigoted mr Rose has got his fifteen minutes of fame.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/br
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/br
Again he targets Clifton, thus proving it is about class wars.
There are just as many 4x4s knocking around the council estates in Southmead, Henbury, Lawrence Weston, Knowle and Hartcliffe. Places where children play on the streets...
Bet he won't go there and have a go at them will he?
There are just as many 4x4s knocking around the council estates in Southmead, Henbury, Lawrence Weston, Knowle and Hartcliffe. Places where children play on the streets...
Bet he won't go there and have a go at them will he?
Ubertractor said:
Again he targets Clifton, thus proving it is about class wars.
There are just as many 4x4s knocking around the council estates in Southmead, Henbury, Lawrence Weston, Knowle and Hartcliffe. Places where children play on the streets...
Bet he won't go there and have a go at them will he?
There are just as many 4x4s knocking around the council estates in Southmead, Henbury, Lawrence Weston, Knowle and Hartcliffe. Places where children play on the streets...
Bet he won't go there and have a go at them will he?
Bugger all to do with class wars imho.
One area is affluent, the other council. The coucil area's cars will envitably be older, more smokey/polluting but will also have a far higher chance of getting his head kicked in if caught pouring mud on them.
richardthestag said:
Just as the Brissol anti 4x4 direct action idiots have gone to ground Gregory from the Edinburgh alliance has kicked off again.
Anyone fancy shooting fish in a barrel
http://stopedinburgh4x4s.blogspot.com
Anyone fancy shooting fish in a barrel
http://stopedinburgh4x4s.blogspot.com
Just try to explain this to them. They will see that many 4*4s are better environmentally than many non-4*4s including in some cases the Toyota Prius.
http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiv
What a jumped up little t$%t, what right does this to**er think he has to demand that 4x4 drivers stop using these vehicle for their business.
Many of us use them as a matter of necessety, and need then for transporting large bulky items around.
I've been involved with some of these tree hugging w**&^%s, and as I said to the last one "if we keeps getting summers like last year, I'll keep driving a "gas guzzler"".
So F*&K them, ad kick those townies out who demand the reducion of 4x4s just to please their own egos.
Many of us use them as a matter of necessety, and need then for transporting large bulky items around.
I've been involved with some of these tree hugging w**&^%s, and as I said to the last one "if we keeps getting summers like last year, I'll keep driving a "gas guzzler"".
So F*&K them, ad kick those townies out who demand the reducion of 4x4s just to please their own egos.
These people really get my bloodboiling. My Cayenne was vandalised by such a group - it annoyed me so much I decided to take a pragmatic approach, and drive the cars I want to, and clean up my mess as I go along - therefore my 4x4 is greener than most other cars on the road. It wasn't very straight forward to do, so Mrs Windsorphil has turned it into a business. You may or may not believe the science (I do), but Roses' approach only polarises people and he gets his arguements mixed up and he wants to take away my right to drive what I want to, or fly to where I want to, this I object to. So I take a pragmatic attitude - I'll clear up my mess after me, and I'll help others do the same, through www.mycarbondebt.com
Rose is hindering the debate, his ridiculous claims about murder in particular (lacking supporting data) are causing otherwise reasonable people to react in way that just widens the gap, rather than seeking a pragmatic, sensible and iterative way forward.
Phil.
Rose is hindering the debate, his ridiculous claims about murder in particular (lacking supporting data) are causing otherwise reasonable people to react in way that just widens the gap, rather than seeking a pragmatic, sensible and iterative way forward.
Phil.
Edited by windsorphil on Thursday 1st February 20:56
David Rose said:
wow, all 7 of the protesters had to bring their kids and dogs to try and make it look like more than a bunch of jealous, uninformed idiots actually give a stuff about this?
You just like seeing your name in the news don't you David, thats all this is about...
oh, and get a job you lazy, idle sponging prick
omg, David Rose, ive not read all this thread, only a few posts, but really, what planet are you from? maybe you should go back.
you are pond life at best. i hope you see the light one day and are too ashamed of your actions that you commit yourself to a mental health ward for life. you're pathetic.
you are pond life at best. i hope you see the light one day and are too ashamed of your actions that you commit yourself to a mental health ward for life. you're pathetic.
Fidgits said:
David Rose said:
wow, all 7 of the protesters had to bring their kids and dogs to try and make it look like more than a bunch of jealous, uninformed idiots actually give a stuff about this?
You just like seeing your name in the news don't you David, thats all this is about...
oh, and get a job you lazy, idle sponging prick
All I can say is, what a very sad and hateful man he is. Politics of envy simply has to be checked for the sake of all of the hard working, tax paying, law abiding majority. Giving hateful morons like this a platform for their spite is just as bad as giving the BNP policy any credibility, both equally cancerous to freedom loving people!
I think that everything that Mr Rose has said is reasonable and that he seems to have really rattled your cages to have become so personal in your attacks. Wake up and smell the coffee- we really are living in the Age of Stupid when people won't face up to the seriousness of the threat to all our lives and "lifestyles". It won't give me any satisfaction to think that you will one day realise that you were wrong about this. By then it will all be way too late.
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You signed up just to say that.
What a bell
ETA something constructive:
There are absolutely no circumstances where it is acceptable to deface someone's property (be it temporarily with mud or with something more permanent). Just becuse someone doesn't agree with someone's choice of vehicle does not give them the right to harass the owner (I don't go around my local town sticking pictures of smoke belching coal fired power stations on the windows of G-Wizz's).
In my considered opinion after the edit, you remain a bell
What a bell
ETA something constructive:
There are absolutely no circumstances where it is acceptable to deface someone's property (be it temporarily with mud or with something more permanent). Just becuse someone doesn't agree with someone's choice of vehicle does not give them the right to harass the owner (I don't go around my local town sticking pictures of smoke belching coal fired power stations on the windows of G-Wizz's).
In my considered opinion after the edit, you remain a bell
Edited by schmalex on Sunday 14th February 17:12
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