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[RobinBanks]

W00DY, I really do like that Range Rover. I'd struggle to justify the price for a P38 without a good engine conversion (Overfinch or a top hat Rover V8), but if I had that money to spend with abandon, I'd love to have that.

[PlayersNo6]

W00DY said:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

Couple of crackers there Woody

[sutts]

LayZ said:

Minemapper said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Tough crowd for the Volvo! Back to Mercs; what's the view on this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-07-Reg-MERCEDES-BEN...

I spotted that last week. If I hadn't just bought my 280, I'd have been all over that. Looked for an '07 350 for ages, and they were very few and far between. Good options and it looks well cared for as well.

Like this a lot, seems to be a good engine too. Good value for the spec and year. Facelift 2007 W211s are very proper, nearly all the problems engineered away, including the ABC stuff.

Selfishly, I hope someone on here does at least view if not buy this. I first noticed it perhaps a couple of weeks ago when the Autotrader ad must have first gone up, and it went on to a shortlist of mine as I was selling my RS4 and looking to move into a petrol barge estate in the 4-6k price range.

As it is I found a lovely Stirling Grey E39 530i Touring which I fell for instead and bought home today at the bottom end of my price range; toppy for an E39 but with fresh MOT, Insp 2 service last month, new rear brakes, recent front end respray for stone chips, Eagle F1s all round and mint inside and out. Drove back to Kent from Bristol this afternoon and it's a cracker of a car.

I'd still like to know what I might have missed out on with the E350 though!

[SuperHangOn]

Maybe taking barge a little too literally...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E250D-W124...



This does sound a good one, even the a/c has been converted.

[rejn]

SuperHangOn said:

Maybe taking barge a little too literally...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E250D-W124...



This does sound a good one, even the a/c has been converted.

Interesting - I wasn't even aware of the 250D (our 300D is slow enough, I'd never considered that there might be less powerful diesel versions out there).

But after a quick look around the internet, being a '94 car this will be the 4v version (interestingly, the 250D is 5 cylinder) - 4v versions noticeable by extra vents at the front of the wings.

It turns out the (nonturbo) 4v 250D have 111hp compared to the 100hp I get in my 2v 300D, so it's more powerful!

From a bit more reading, it looks like the (1985-93) 2v 250D had only 90hp, and there may even have been a 4 cylinder 200D version with as little as 72hp as well.

[anonymous-user]

Easternlight said:

72k and has had new engine and gearbox?
Just how do you need both engine and gearbox, one or the other maybe?

When I was shopping for XJs a few years ago it seemed a good 1/3rd of the cars for sale had a new engine and/or gearbox before they got to 80/90K miles or so. Some engines might have been down to nikasil failure, others to timing chain tensioner failure, and those 5 speed ZF boxes have a few known issues.

I bought an XJ6 instead and it was bulletproof.

[SuperHangOn]

rejn said:

From a bit more reading, it looks like the (1985-93) 2v 250D had only 90hp, and there may even have been a 4 cylinder 200D version with as little as 72hp as well.

I had a 250. It was ludicrously slow from a standstill. Bizarrely on the motorway it really flew along and didn't feel strained in the slightest. It made lovely marine like induction noises at speed.

I was hoping my E300TD would have some of that character but unfortunately not really, although it's infinitely quicker.

Edited by SuperHangOn on Wednesday 9th September 09:48

[JZZ30]

0a said:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C656474

That is properly lovely.

[V12 AMG]

rejn said:

Interesting - I wasn't even aware of the 250D (our 300D is slow enough, I'd never considered that there might be less powerful diesel versions out there).

But after a quick look around the internet, being a '94 car this will be the 4v version (interestingly, the 250D is 5 cylinder) - 4v versions noticeable by extra vents at the front of the wings.

It turns out the (nonturbo) 4v 250D have 111hp compared to the 100hp I get in my 2v 300D, so it's more powerful!

From a bit more reading, it looks like the (1985-93) 2v 250D had only 90hp, and there may even have been a 4 cylinder 200D version with as little as 72hp as well.

The OM602 10v 5 cylinder cars were badged as 250D and the OM605 20v engined cars were badged as E250D. Same for the OM603 300D and the OM606 E300D. This coincided with the major cosmetic facelift.

The OM602 engines later had the capacity enlarged to 2.9L and a turbo strapped on for the Sprinter Vans. There have been some sprinter engines which have made their way into W124 bodies.

[r129sl]

V12 AMG said:

rejn said:

Interesting - I wasn't even aware of the 250D (our 300D is slow enough, I'd never considered that there might be less powerful diesel versions out there).

But after a quick look around the internet, being a '94 car this will be the 4v version (interestingly, the 250D is 5 cylinder) - 4v versions noticeable by extra vents at the front of the wings.

It turns out the (nonturbo) 4v 250D have 111hp compared to the 100hp I get in my 2v 300D, so it's more powerful!

From a bit more reading, it looks like the (1985-93) 2v 250D had only 90hp, and there may even have been a 4 cylinder 200D version with as little as 72hp as well.

The OM602 10v 5 cylinder cars were badged as 250D and the OM605 20v engined cars were badged as E250D. Same for the OM603 300D and the OM606 E300D. This coincided with the major cosmetic facelift.

The OM602 engines later had the capacity enlarged to 2.9L and a turbo strapped on for the Sprinter Vans. There have been some sprinter engines which have made their way into W124 bodies.

I didn't know that (about the Sprinters). There was a w210 E290 Turbodiesel for a short time. Was that the same engine?

These cars (the NA w124 diesels) are made for bottling around town as taxis or long-distance work. They are great at both, but anything in between less so. I love my s124 E300 diesel T.

[SpeckledJim]

SuperHangOn said:

I had a 250. It was ludicrously slow from a standstill. Bizarrely on the motorway it really flew along and didn't feel strained in the slightest. It made lovely marine like induction noises at speed.

This was very true of my E300D non-turbo W124. Sluggish up to about 25, and then felt very good up to 60.

[r129sl]

Mine sings between 60 and 90. It's a great long distance car.

[deadslow]

one owner, £2k, surely better than all those crappy old mercs

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C656540

[lostkiwi]

0a said:

Ad said:

This is a very special little Mercedes 190e 2.0L petrol auto which was registered new by S.G. Smith Mercedes of Crystal Palace, London on 20th April 1993, so right at the end of 190 production. It has been used very sparingly indeed with a total mileage of just over 27,000 miles and has a FSH from Mercedes! I purchased it from 'The SL Shop' in Redditch in January this year after searching high and low for a car that basically drives as new (took my SL in for a service and came out with another car as well, try explaining that to the wife!). As part of the SL Shop preparation of the car it had a full service and MOT, a new battery, new windscreen, 4x new Dunlop tyres, new wheel trims and a new heater blower fan motor. I have done just a few hundred miles in it since. The car genuinely drives as fresh as new and is free of squeaks and rattles both inside and out. It is finished in a very attractive rich metallic paint described as Nutria, paint code 475 complemented by a mushroom cloth interior. The spec includes drivers airbag, 4x electric windows, electric sunroof and front and rear arm rests.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C656474

That really is quite special. I wish I had the space for another car!

[CampDavid]

deadslow said:

one owner, £2k, surely better than all those crappy old mercs

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C656540

Agreed. That deserves a good home

[V12 AMG]

r129sl said:

V12 AMG said:

rejn said:

Interesting - I wasn't even aware of the 250D (our 300D is slow enough, I'd never considered that there might be less powerful diesel versions out there).

But after a quick look around the internet, being a '94 car this will be the 4v version (interestingly, the 250D is 5 cylinder) - 4v versions noticeable by extra vents at the front of the wings.

It turns out the (nonturbo) 4v 250D have 111hp compared to the 100hp I get in my 2v 300D, so it's more powerful!

From a bit more reading, it looks like the (1985-93) 2v 250D had only 90hp, and there may even have been a 4 cylinder 200D version with as little as 72hp as well.

The OM602 10v 5 cylinder cars were badged as 250D and the OM605 20v engined cars were badged as E250D. Same for the OM603 300D and the OM606 E300D. This coincided with the major cosmetic facelift.

The OM602 engines later had the capacity enlarged to 2.9L and a turbo strapped on for the Sprinter Vans. There have been some sprinter engines which have made their way into W124 bodies.

I didn't know that (about the Sprinters). There was a w210 E290 Turbodiesel for a short time. Was that the same engine?

Yes, it's the OM602.982 in the W210. Same engine also used in the G Wagen for a little while.
They have a couple of weaknesses compared to the bomb proof 2.5L. Most notably the head gasket between cylinder 1 and the timing chain blows, letting oil into the cylinder. It is very thin there due to the enlarged bore. It's all relative though, it's still a very reliable and robust engine compared to 99% of others.

Edited by V12 AMG on Wednesday 9th September 15:25

[golfer19]

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C627479#



£4000

[golfer19]

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C656697#

[SuperHangOn]

golfer19 said:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C627479#



£4000

Oh I'm in love. The holly willoughby of cars.

Do these have a/c as standard?

[harrykul]

golfer19 said:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C627479#



£4000

Jeez, how rich does that look? Gorgeous.

See a z3M in the background too, which should be a good sign

ETA that doesn't look like an a/c car

Edited by harrykul on Wednesday 9th September 19:16