RE: Cars, Stars and... Behind Bars

[Garlick]

boxedoffroader said:

Chris. Are other Haymarket publications running the Munroe story?

Again Chris is out of the office today, but I can say that it isn't being run anywhere else.

[Harry Flashman]

bosscerbera said:

I agree.

Frankly, I'd have published. That Munroe may have been economical with the actualité concerning his post-McLaren/McGraw activities would have provided the perfect justification to pass his fee to Great Ormond Street Hospital.

That 'extra information' came to light in today's discourse would make whatever Munroe has submitted all the more interesting. I'd have thought PH'ers would wish to be credited with the intelligence to make what they will of Munroe's tale.

The reactionary gnashing and wailing is so very Daily Mail. As is today's victory for moral indignation. Well done.

Also agreed. It was interesting.

[arfur]

Last time i saw James was at TIS ltd

he wasnt a middle manager .....

[Neil H]

ZesPak said:

I'm quite disappointed though as the "public" on ph cried for censorship on this one...

Anyone interested enough in stories of totally twuntery could just contact the guy and ask him for the other installments, he may even charge you some money if you’re lucky.

[boxedoffroader]

Neil H said:

Anyone interested enough in stories of totally twuntery could just contact the guy and ask him for the other installments, he may even charge you some money if you’re lucky.

I think Chris should just post the stories on the forum and give Munroe the chance to talk about his offences. It may do Munroe a bit of good and put him on the straight and narrow. However he should not be paid a penny!

[Neil H]

That would be a much better way of doing it IMHO, but let him start a thread and take responsibility by himself. PH doesn't need to be associated with people like that.

[Alfa numeric]

boxedoffroader said:

Munroe should be able to post the whole story on here (not get paid)and show genuine remorse.

He's got as much right to post here as everyone else.

boxedoffroader said:

In return for this PHers should not shout him down.

Good luck with that!

[MarJay]

Garlick said:

Shall we wrap this up now?

As the story has been removed due to most of us not wanting to give the chap publicity, we might as well let it fade away into memory.

Agreed? It's not a forced close but I can't help but feel it's time to let it go.....

I can't help but think that is just a *mite* cowardly on PH's part.

[W00DY]

Garlick said:

boxedoffroader said:

Chris. Are other Haymarket publications running the Munroe story?

Again Chris is out of the office today, but I can say that it isn't being run anywhere else.

I should hope not, considering the coin you had to agree to for the exclusive.

5-figures isn't exactly what I'd call modest.

[MX5guy]

W00DY said:

I should hope not, considering the coin you had to agree to for the exclusive.

5-figures isn't exactly what I'd call modest.

It's ok, it won't be going to him now. They've agreed to pay me the fee for my story, "How to blackmail Haymarket".

[jbailey93]

Don't get what the big deal is here, the stories interesting if you don't like it don't read it.. simple

[-Lummox-]

I wonder how much he is going to make off the back of this story?

Perhaps if he's feeling really penitent he'll waive his fee, or donate it to charity... or to the people he ripped off...

[ZOLLAR]

jbailey93 said:

Don't get what the big deal is here, the stories interesting if you don't like it don't read it.. simple

It's not so much about the story but the fact that PH endorsed and published the story of an unrepentant fraudster.

[Davey S2]

Can a mod please change the title of this thread to 'Monroe is this your F1?'

[bosscerbera]

ZOLLAR said:

jbailey93 said:

Don't get what the big deal is here, the stories interesting if you don't like it don't read it.. simple

It's not so much about the story but the fact that PH endorsed and published the story of an unrepentant fraudster.

PH endorsed? I don't think so.

This being the internet, and PH in particular, cross-checking of Munroe was quickly done by sleuths on here. The story is all the more interesting for the PH'er contributions about the charity, the YouTube links etc..

And while there was a fee negotiated at the start, the 'due diligence team' on PH rapidly dismantled the case for it, and built a case to divert the fee in the direction of a charity. This story has made 16 pages of fun and counting. Munroe has been spectacularly hoist by his own petard. Good.

That PH stumbled on this gem for the PH PIs to get stuck into should be something to be grateful for. Pity that PH has capitulated to the kangaroo consensus.

[Neil H]

bosscerbera said:

PH endorsed? I don't think so.

If paying someone for their story and publishing it on their front page doesn't count as an endorsement, I don't know what does. They're essentially sponsoring him. He could have just signed up and posted his story in the forums, but that would have got him less attention/ earning potential - clearly the guy is trying to get exposure in view of making money out of his story.

[bosscerbera]

Neil H said:

If paying someone for their story and publishing it on their front page doesn't count as an endorsement, I don't know what does.

Then buy a dictionary.

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[Neil H]

bosscerbera said:

Then buy a dictionary.

You need the dictionary - I suggest you go and look it up.

Why are you quoting small print? This is not a legal issue, it's merely one of morals and reputation.

[bosscerbera]

Neil H said:

You need the dictionary - I suggest you go and look it up.

Why are you quoting small print? This is not a legal issue, it's merely one of morals and reputation.

This is clearly a bit complicated for you. Anything PH endorses on its home page, it clearly states as much. Brett Fraser's home page story about the 205GTi is neither an endorsement of the author nor of the car. The views of contributors are not automatically the views of the publisher. The publisher - expressly, in its small print - does not guarantee the "accuracy, completeness, or truth" of contributions. It does not, therefore, "declare its public approval or support of" (i.e. endorse) contributions. Payment is not endorsement.

PH stumbled upon an interesting contributor. One perhaps not quite as 'interesting' as Ferrari Brocket, or Ronald Biggs, but certainly one that some of us may have seen in racing paddocks, on TV, or heard of because of his Ferrari-to-McLaren-prison shenanigans. If PH had sought Munroe out to feed him to the lions, that would have been amusing. If Munroe courted PH to feed himself to the lions that's double funny. I suspect the latter.

By all means, cast an opinion. But spare me your moral posturing, you don't know what you're talking about.

[Papa Hotel]

Damn PH mobile.

Edited by Papa Hotel on Tuesday 5th April 14:16