One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 5

[mac96]

Deranged Rover said:

This thread is probably the best place to post yesterday's happenings even though "knob" doesn't even come close.

M40 southbound, just south of Warwick services - traffic is reasonably heavy but we're all going along at 70-80 quite happily, when a silver Audi A6 estate and a white Audi A3 suddenly appear. Now I don't know if they were racing, if one was chasing the other or there was some sort of serious road rage going on, but they were weaving in an out of the traffic across all lanes as they came racing past us all - they nearly hit two people that I saw and, as they thundered off into the distance I saw the silver estate pass two lorries in Lane 1 by overtaking them using the hard shoulder.

I surprised myself by hoping that I'd see at least one of them wrapped around something concrete in due course - I've genuinely never seen anything like it before.

The silver estate had a distinctive numberplate but I was so shocked I didn't get a chance to take a photo or make a note of it, otherwise I would have reported him.

That sort of driving certainly seemed quite common on the M40 inside the M25 when I used to be there more regularly than now. A constant surprise that you don't find them off the road/in the back of a truck just ahead..

[Muddle238]

mac96 said:

Deranged Rover said:

This thread is probably the best place to post yesterday's happenings even though "knob" doesn't even come close.

M40 southbound, just south of Warwick services - traffic is reasonably heavy but we're all going along at 70-80 quite happily, when a silver Audi A6 estate and a white Audi A3 suddenly appear. Now I don't know if they were racing, if one was chasing the other or there was some sort of serious road rage going on, but they were weaving in an out of the traffic across all lanes as they came racing past us all - they nearly hit two people that I saw and, as they thundered off into the distance I saw the silver estate pass two lorries in Lane 1 by overtaking them using the hard shoulder.

I surprised myself by hoping that I'd see at least one of them wrapped around something concrete in due course - I've genuinely never seen anything like it before.

The silver estate had a distinctive numberplate but I was so shocked I didn't get a chance to take a photo or make a note of it, otherwise I would have reported him.

That sort of driving certainly seemed quite common on the M40 inside the M25 when I used to be there more regularly than now. A constant surprise that you don't find them off the road/in the back of a truck just ahead..

You will also find the same behaviour on the M6, from the same brand. Usually black, gel plates, tinted rear lights, aftermarket HIDs etc.

They simply couldn't care less about anyone else, the only thing that matters to them is the illusion of their self-imposed "gangster" status, that they can do what they like and have no fear of the law as they consider themselves above the law. As such, everyone else may as well be invisible on the roads, they certainly don't care about you or your family on the motorway hence the stupid and dangerous manoeuvres they repeatedly pull.

They are absolute scum, bacteria life forms. Never has a sense of self importance ever been so far misplaced from reality.

[Tommo87]

stogbandard said:

Sebbak said:

People unable to stick to a lane, especially on roundabouts; drivers that straight-line a '2 on 2 off' roundabout by starting in lane 1, drifting across into lane 2 on the roundabout and then back out to lane 1 drive me bonkers. It's even worse on smaller roundabouts when the vehicle on the left doesn't move across and robs you of all space on the inside of the roundabout. Peak knobbery.

This. Roundabouts these days seem to be designed to encourage this. With older roundabouts the lanes approaching the roundabout would have lane 1 aligned towards lane 1 on the roundabout, same with lane 2. With new roundabouts though, lane 1 is aligned with lane 2 and lane 2 points towards the central island. This geometry is supposedly meant to slow approaching traffic but it doesn’t - it jus encourages straight lining across lanes.

Just an extra moan about RAB’s.

Even with the dotted lines directing people to correctly move out a lane as they pass an exit, you still get idiots who ignore everything and just cut across every lane as they circumnavigate the junction.

[swisstoni]

There’s a roundabout over a motorway near me who’s lanes are just a mess in places.



So you enter the from the bottom of the picture and the leftmost 2 lanes go off to the motorway; that sort of works.

The remaining lanes going forward, but ‘over’ lane makings meant for traffic already on the roundabout.

So you can proceed on to the roundabout, carefully trying to stay in your lane only to encounter lane lines that cut across your lane. They are all the same colour and a bit faded.

It would be quite possible to run someone off the road thinking you were following ‘your’ lane, but actually veering across them.

It’s confusing from overhead. At ground level it is useless.

[C5_Steve]

Yeah that's a bit of a shambles.

[donkmeister]

What annoys me even more than the bad lines is the regular user who has now figured it out and drives like a bat out of hell to try and cause conflict. The rest of us are thinking "yes, this is a bit confusing and that guy a little way ahead clearly thinks he's in the right lane to take the same exit as me", whereas the Muppets are thinking "Ooooh, I'll cause a near miss, send the footage to Ashley Neil and then he'll be my friend!!!"

[BunkMoreland]

I will recount this story. But suspect it will be 2 knobs meeting!

Walking across a large retail car park. I'm in the access lane part maybe 1/3rd of the way across. A BMW X4 comes driving at speed down this lane. Maybe 20m away, doing 30ish where obviously it might be more prudent to be doing a slower speed. I have to do a double take as the driver appears not to be slowing given my progress across the lane. I'm actually considering do I need to run! When I'm about half way across, and they are about 3 metres away, she finally brakes, but doesn't actually stop. I look at the driver, in disbelief, and carry on across.

The driver is clearly enraged by my response. They drop the passenger window and scream at me

"its a fking road you dhead!"

To which turn around, look her dead in the eye and fire back (in my best "Snatch" impersonation*)

"its a fking car park, you stupid !"


As the words left my mouth I realised I just shouldn't have bothered. Clearly this ugly woman is ignorant of the law, doesn't seem to have noticed that pedestrians have right of way, road or car park, these days. And nothing I say is going to change her mind or opinion that I am in the wrong and she is correct.

I assume she thinks the world of herself as she drives around in her mildly flash car with its personalised plate (her husbands, given it was a mans name) and everyone should just get out of her way regardless. It put me in a bad mood at myself for engaging the moron for a good while

So 2 knobs meet. Her for being a dumb menace. And me for bothering to entertain it.


* https://youtu.be/bRJxNpPj6Zc?si=xVs48rB8Vj82Td3b&a...

[5s Alive]

BunkMoreland said:

I will recount this story. But suspect it will be 2 knobs meeting!

Walking across a large retail car park. I'm in the access lane part maybe 1/3rd of the way across. A BMW X4 comes driving at speed down this lane. Maybe 20m away, doing 30ish where obviously it might be more prudent to be doing a slower speed. I have to do a double take as the driver appears not to be slowing given my progress across the lane. I'm actually considering do I need to run! When I'm about half way across, and they are about 3 metres away, she finally brakes, but doesn't actually stop. I look at the driver, in disbelief, and carry on across.

The driver is clearly enraged by my response. They drop the passenger window and scream at me

"its a fking road you dhead!"

To which turn around, look her dead in the eye and fire back (in my best "Snatch" impersonation*)

"its a fking car park, you stupid !"


As the words left my mouth I realised I just shouldn't have bothered. Clearly this ugly woman is ignorant of the law, doesn't seem to have noticed that pedestrians have right of way, road or car park, these days. And nothing I say is going to change her mind or opinion that I am in the wrong and she is correct.

I assume she thinks the world of herself as she drives around in her mildly flash car with its personalised plate (her husbands, given it was a mans name) and everyone should just get out of her way regardless. It put me in a bad mood at myself for engaging the moron for a good while

So 2 knobs meet. Her for being a dumb menace. And me for bothering to entertain it.


* https://youtu.be/bRJxNpPj6Zc?si=xVs48rB8Vj82Td3b&a...

I'm with you on this one. There's always at least one such knob to be found on any given day in retail park car parks. My favourite was the lady in a Volvo estate who drove up at speed, behind pedestrians waking along an access lane, hand on horn and shouting out the window.

Always comes as a shock encountering pedestrians in car parks doesn't it.

fking idiots.

[mac96]

donkmeister said:

What annoys me even more than the bad lines is the regular user who has now figured it out and drives like a bat out of hell to try and cause conflict. The rest of us are thinking "yes, this is a bit confusing and that guy a little way ahead clearly thinks he's in the right lane to take the same exit as me", whereas the Muppets are thinking "Ooooh, I'll cause a near miss, send the footage to Ashley Neil and then he'll be my friend!!!"

To be fair to him, thay sounds like the sort of behaviour Neil would call out rather than support. He seems to be a believer in accident avoidance ahead of being 'in the right'.

[carlove]

A biker, came up behind me while I'm stopped waiting for the car in front to turn right on a straight NSL road, all fine. When the car completes it's turn and I start accelerating back up to 60, the bike overtakes, also fine and I come off the accelerator to accommodate. But then once in front he decides to not go over 50mph, and when I start overtaking he predictably accelerates to prevent this, before slowing back down to 50. I'm not bothered if you want to overtake, but don't do it if you're just going to hold me up after, knob.

[21st Century Man]

I'm signalling left to turn left and some yoff in a hoodie on an electric scooter wizzes past up my inside just as I'm turning in. I slammed the brakes on, missed a collision by millimetres, the yoff continues on down the road, totally unaware.

[67Dino]

PH answered its own question for me here…

[Red9zero]

21st Century Man said:

I'm signalling left to turn left and some yoff in a hoodie on an electric scooter wizzes past up my inside just as I'm turning in. I slammed the brakes on, missed a collision by millimetres, the yoff continues on down the road, totally unaware.

Don't they have right of way in that instance now, according to the latest Highway Code ? I could be wrong though.

[21st Century Man]

Red9zero said:

21st Century Man said:

I'm signalling left to turn left and some yoff in a hoodie on an electric scooter wizzes past up my inside just as I'm turning in. I slammed the brakes on, missed a collision by millimetres, the yoff continues on down the road, totally unaware.

Don't they have right of way in that instance now, according to the latest Highway Code ? I could be wrong though.

I've checked and you're right, so it seems I'm the knob.

Apparently cyclists now have the right of way to continue straight on when coming up the inside of a vehicle signalling and slowing to turn left. A reversal of the previous position, which was never to go up the inside of a left turning vehicle.

In my defence, this was a scooter and it was feckin' flying along, I only saw him at the last moment. I always check thoroughly before turning in at this particular road as it's a very tight and narrow turn in.

Edited by 21st Century Man on Saturday 20th July 14:19

[Strangely Brown]

Red9zero said:

21st Century Man said:

I'm signalling left to turn left and some yoff in a hoodie on an electric scooter wizzes past up my inside just as I'm turning in. I slammed the brakes on, missed a collision by millimetres, the yoff continues on down the road, totally unaware.

Don't they have right of way in that instance now, according to the latest Highway Code ? I could be wrong though.

How can someone doing something illegal have priority (it's not RoW) over someone doing something perfectly legal.

[5s Alive]

21st Century Man said:

Red9zero said:

21st Century Man said:

I'm signalling left to turn left and some yoff in a hoodie on an electric scooter wizzes past up my inside just as I'm turning in. I slammed the brakes on, missed a collision by millimetres, the yoff continues on down the road, totally unaware.

Don't they have right of way in that instance now, according to the latest Highway Code ? I could be wrong though.

I've checked and you're right, so it seems I'm the knob.

Apparently cyclists now have the right of way to continue straight on when coming up the inside of a vehicle signalling and slowing to turn left. A reversal of the previous position, which was never to go up the inside of a left turning vehicle.

In my defence, this was a scooter and it was feckin' flying along, I only saw him at the last moment. I always check thoroughly before turning in at this particular road as it's a very tight and narrow turn in.

Edited by 21st Century Man on Saturday 20th July 14:19

Yes, but...

What the rule doesn’t do
The rules make it clear that greater power brings greater responsibility, but do not detract from the responsibility of all road users, including people on foot, bike or horse, to:

“… have regard for their own and other road users’ safety”

and...


Turning. When approaching a junction on the left, watch out for vehicles turning in front of you, out of or into the side road. If you intend to turn left, check first for other cyclists or motorcyclists before signalling. Do not ride on the inside of vehicles signalling or slowing down to turn left.

It's not carte blanche to fly up the inside of slow moving traffic with total disregard for those who are indicating (or not) and may not have seen you.

Unless you are Jeremy Vine.

However, overtaking a cyclist and then turning directly in front of them would be an entirely different level of knobbishness. I've been turned in on a few times over the years - once while stuck to the side of the offending car!

[FezOnYourHeadFezOnMyDrive]

Me, this morning. Joining the A11 from the slip road and didn't check my blindspot thoroughly enough and nearly side swiped some poor woman in her VW Golf. Immediately I held my hands up and apologised. She did nothing wrong and had the composure to not blast her horn or get angry and then accepted my apology and cracked on with her journey.

I will chastise myself for a long while for my mistake. And I'll be sure to check my blindspot better.

Bloody plonker.

[Hackney]

The dangerous idiot on the A34 / M40 / A43 the other day, driving a van with Highways Agency or whatever it is people who occasionally work on trunk roads have on their vehicles.

It was busy but steady on the A34 but yer man was swerving between lanes, cutting people up time and time again. Causing others to brake hard to avoid an accident.

Based on how many times I saw him do it you can tell he wasn’t actually making any progress. He swerved left the. One last swerve to the right, then left again despite there being two lanes turning left onto the M40 (the right lane is usually quicker) and I passed him and joined the M40.

These days especially doing the commute I’m tending to get into the left lane in loads of time so I don’t have to rely on people letting me in.

Needless to say matey boy had no such qualms and swerved into lane one to take the exit to the A43 at the last second. He continued his knobish behaviour up the A43 until he turned off at Barkley. Again, made no actual progress by his daft antics.

[swisstoni]

Subtley thwarting these lane zigzaggers is a bit of entertainment on boring journeys, I find.

[Killer2005]

Two today

First, the absolute plum in a G83 M5 who decided to turn right into this junction taking the racing line at a decent speed, not bothering that anyone (me) was coming the other way



Second, the fat fk in a Vectra who didn't check that the single track leaving Fraisthorpe beach was clear when he followed someone else through, meaning he had to reverse back and then started being abusive.