The voice of L J K Setright

The voice of L J K Setright

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12TS

1,875 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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Couple of things also spring to mind.

His love of a Philips radio that he could programme for all the national frequencies of Radio 3 and it would automatically re-tune. Many columns on this.

The annual mpg contest, where he never one but was the fastest.

I also can't look at any Bristol and wonder to myself, can they really be that good? One day I will find out

otolith

56,475 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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carinaman said:
His '93 Prelude, K486RLR, was a VTEC.

I think LJKS previously had a Mk1 Scirocco Storm.
I seem to remember that he was displeased with the VW's brakes.

AC43

11,522 posts

209 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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carinaman said:
skwdenyer said:
12TS said:
I remember the Gamma! I remember a mate bought one of these the car was maybe 5 or 6 years old, but it was forever throwing cambelts, so it has a ring of truth about it.

I was thinking about the Dron book, but I’m sure I want to read something so vain. But that story about GB. Wow!
Re the Gamma, something about cardboard seals IIRC - it is ah-hem 33 years ago since I read it...
Didn't they throw belts when the steering was used? Something to do with them chucking an auxiliary belt when the PAS pump was loaded taking the cambelt with it?

Sorry if I've repeated duff gen.
The general advice was to avoid full lock when you'd just fired it up because that made it very likely to happen.

Riley Blue

21,067 posts

227 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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carinaman said:
His '93 Prelude, K486RLR, was a VTEC.

I think LJKS previously had a Mk1 Scirocco Storm.
yes

coppice

8,663 posts

145 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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Hew also a big fan of the Uno. He had some sort of breakdown in the 80s - his wife's suicide? - and I remember him having a cathartic interlude in the USA with the Fiat . His Jewish faith also started to be mentioned more - and his Old Testament prophet beard also started to become ever more flamboyant

skwdenyer

16,686 posts

241 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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coppice said:
Hew also a big fan of the Uno. He had some sort of breakdown in the 80s - his wife's suicide? - and I remember him having a cathartic interlude in the USA with the Fiat . His Jewish faith also started to be mentioned more - and his Old Testament prophet beard also started to become ever more flamboyant
Yup. Texas was where he went, IIRC he had an X1/9 there.

Let’s be clear; how many motoring journalists over the last 40 years or so would even deserve such a thread, let alone have so many people with such clear recollections? Whatever you thought of his prose style, he was heard.

tumble dryer

2,027 posts

128 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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skwdenyer said:
coppice said:
Hew also a big fan of the Uno. He had some sort of breakdown in the 80s - his wife's suicide? - and I remember him having a cathartic interlude in the USA with the Fiat . His Jewish faith also started to be mentioned more - and his Old Testament prophet beard also started to become ever more flamboyant
Yup. Texas was where he went, IIRC he had an X1/9 there.

Let’s be clear; how many motoring journalists over the last 40 years or so would even deserve such a thread, let alone have so many people with such clear recollections? Whatever you thought of his prose style, he was heard.
Agreed. His style could be hard work at times, but we're better for having had his prose to ponder over.

c2mike

421 posts

150 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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LJKS certainly had a Honda obsession. I grew up in NZ and was an avid reader of CAR magazine in the 80s. At the time LJKS was doing paid TV adverts for Honda NZ - that grated a bit!
Drive On! is a great read - better than most of his magazine articles IMO.

skwdenyer

16,686 posts

241 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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c2mike said:
LJKS certainly had a Honda obsession. I grew up in NZ and was an avid reader of CAR magazine in the 80s. At the time LJKS was doing paid TV adverts for Honda NZ - that grated a bit!
Drive On! is a great read - better than most of his magazine articles IMO.
I'll confess I never knew about the Honda ads.

I wonder if anyone still has one on an old VHS tape?

NomduJour

19,172 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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Here’s a print one in the meantime:


12TS

1,875 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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skwdenyer said:
Yup. Texas was where he went, IIRC he had an X1/9 there.

Let’s be clear; how many motoring journalists over the last 40 years or so would even deserve such a thread, let alone have so many people with such clear recollections? Whatever you thought of his prose style, he was heard.
At the time I had no idea that he was so popular. Today it would be very obvious.

I guess the Editors of the mags knew, but how accurately?

tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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coppice said:
Hew also a big fan of the Uno. He had some sort of breakdown in the 80s - his wife's suicide? - and I remember him having a cathartic interlude in the USA with the Fiat . His Jewish faith also started to be mentioned more - and his Old Testament prophet beard also started to become ever more flamboyant
His wife committed suicide in his favourite Bristol

"Another where he convinced Fiat to leave a Fiat Uno 55s in Florida, after the international launch held at Daytona, and set off on an 8400 mile journey around the USA. It was brave of Fiat to let him loose in a pre-release car, literally the only Uno in the USA (they were never sold there), with no support." I believe Fiat were not aware of his plans!



He ranked the Mini Cooper highly in a hot hatch group test.However , he was not so kind about another British icon!




Edited by tali1 on Thursday 19th March 19:18


Edited by tali1 on Thursday 19th March 19:26

coppice

8,663 posts

145 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Brilliant - a lovely response to the (quite inexplicable) beatification of the Defender. He was similarly iconoclastic about that other over-hyped creation , the Cobra

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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'Offender' has passed into the vocabulary of those that dislike Land Rovers, me included.


tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Many fellow motoring journalists refused to travel with him as he drove like a bat out of hell. (wrecked a Press Officer's Alfa apparently) Known to even jump red lights.

coppice

8,663 posts

145 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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I once had a long chat with a well known figure in the magazine world of the 60s , who was also a successful racer . He confimed that LJKS drove at astonishng pace , but also said that once you got used to it you didn't feel especially unsafe . He told me that the person nobody wanted to ride with was Denis Jenkinson - 'wild , erratic and bloody dangerous ' .

c2mike

421 posts

150 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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coppice said:
Hew also a big fan of the Uno. He had some sort of breakdown in the 80s - his wife's suicide? - and I remember him having a cathartic interlude in the USA with the Fiat . His Jewish faith also started to be mentioned more - and his Old Testament prophet beard also started to become ever more flamboyant
When he was in NZ shamelessly promoting the odd ball first gen Honda Jazz, he was asked what was the best small car - he then admitted the Fiat Uno was his joint favourite. No doubt Honda PR squirmed a bit.

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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tali1 said:
Many fellow motoring journalists refused to travel with him as he drove like a bat out of hell. (wrecked a Press Officer's Alfa apparently) Known to even jump red lights.
As well as barrel rolling an XJ12, old Kickstart also put a Chrysler Horizon on its roof as well. Legend. laugh

Lester H

2,772 posts

106 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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coppice said:
I'm delighted that , even after his death , Long John Kickstart's oeuvre continues to divide opinion . As a lifelong admirer I'd be appalled if he enjoyed universal acclaim now . I smiled at the self aggrandising charge - as a UCL trained lawyer, Fellow of IME , prolific author , award winning photographer and concert standard clarinet player he had more laurels than most of us on which to rest. Besides , anybody who smoked Sobranie Black Russian so theatrically is all right by m e

Bulgin was a sublime writer but his legacy is tainted by the fact that nearly every hack with more ambition than ability tries to ape Bulgin's style . And invariably fails . I have no first hand experience of his personality but a mutual friend always speaks very highly of him . In any case - , judge the art, not the artist .
Lovely pastiche of Bulgin ‘s “Hard boiled” Raymond Chandler style here. Spawned many lesser imitators. And still does.Today. Setright just massively erudite and cultured, apparently genuine. Latinisms far more acceptable than senior car journalists deluding themselves that they are philosophers.
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Edited by Lester H on Saturday 21st March 21:43

Touring442

3,096 posts

210 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Yoko Ono is/was another patron of Sobranie apart from when she was going through a chain smoking phase.