Child Seat Advice

[Zod]

Mr Purple said:

Hi , any ideas on a forward facing rear child seat in a DBS - bit tight in there
cheers

The best I managed in my DB9 was a Britax Duo Plus. For an older child, I used the MaxiCosi Rodi XR.

[scib4]

boobles said:

Hi,

The impact shield does pass the current R44-04 standard, but thats as far as it goes. The R44 tests are the basic requirement & all thats measured is chest accelerations & they monitor where the head goes. We have seen with certain shield products that as soon as you start to measure other accelerations such as neck forces & a few more, the shield system can fall short compared to products with harnesses. In short, yes the shield system does pass the minimum requirement but most harnessed seat's go behond that....

Thanks for the quick reply!

Hmm... think i will have a look a harnessed seat's instead.

While i have your attention, to Isofix or not? Am i right i thinking Isofix is no safer than the traditional seatbelt fitment, just that it takes away human error in the fitting progress?

Mike

[boobles]

scib4 said:

Thanks for the quick reply!

Hmm... think i will have a look a harnessed seat's instead.

While i have your attention, to Isofix or not? Am i right i thinking Isofix is no safer than the traditional seatbelt fitment, just that it takes away human error in the fitting progress?

Mike

You are correct... Isofix eliminates "human error" there for can be safer compared to an "incorrect" belted seat.
If the belted seat is fitted correctly, they are perfectly safe but the isofix does reduce "side impact" loads due to being more secure without less movement.

[boobles]

page3 said:

Hi

Looking for a new seat for our (soon to be) 4 year old.

We like the look of the Britax KidFix and the Kid Plus. It seems the only difference is that the KidFix has IsoFix and the Plus does not. Unfortunately the Britax website does not have any comparison functionality, so we may be wrong.

One of our cars has IsoFix and the other does not. It seems we could still use the KidFix on both, would would appreciate clarification on this as again the website is unclear.

Thanks.

Hi,

Yes the kidfix can be used with or without the isofix latches. Using just the 3pt car seat belt is an option...

[5678]

FWIW, we fitted out Britax Multi Tech at the weekend. It's a great seat IMO. Easy to fit (even in rear facing mode.) and our son loves it. It was the only rear facing seat that would fit in the front of the 650 too.

We looked at the Besafe range but they were far too big and cumbersome.

I've got a Recaro Young Expert fitted in my 182 for the odd time he comes in that too. It was free from a friend (so I know the history of the seat) and saves me having to move the Britax for all but longer journeys or when I swap cars with the wife for a bit.

[page3]

boobles said:

Hi,

Yes the kidfix can be used with or without the isofix latches. Using just the 3pt car seat belt is an option...

Thanks. Our son has now chosen the colour

[boobles]

page3 said:

Thanks. Our son has now chosen the colour

Exellent.. Pleasure to help.

[Vladimir]

5678 said:

FWIW, we fitted out Britax Multi Tech at the weekend. It's a great seat IMO. Easy to fit (even in rear facing mode.) and our son loves it. It was the only rear facing seat that would fit in the front of the 650 too.

We looked at the Besafe range but they were far too big and cumbersome.

I've got a Recaro Young Expert fitted in my 182 for the odd time he comes in that too. It was free from a friend (so I know the history of the seat) and saves me having to move the Britax for all but longer journeys or when I swap cars with the wife for a bit.

We have one of these in the BM - a tight fit but very safe. I imported one from Sweden because you couldn't buy them here. Two months after I got it, they started selling them in the UK for almost £100 less - DOH!! Very good seats but they are very "deep" so too tight for the middle seats of our 110 Landy - we use a Evolva 123 forward facer in that for our 3 year old.

[5678]

Vladimir said:

5678 said:

FWIW, we fitted out Britax Multi Tech at the weekend. It's a great seat IMO. Easy to fit (even in rear facing mode.) and our son loves it. It was the only rear facing seat that would fit in the front of the 650 too.

We looked at the Besafe range but they were far too big and cumbersome.

I've got a Recaro Young Expert fitted in my 182 for the odd time he comes in that too. It was free from a friend (so I know the history of the seat) and saves me having to move the Britax for all but longer journeys or when I swap cars with the wife for a bit.

We have one of these in the BM - a tight fit but very safe. I imported one from Sweden because you couldn't buy them here. Two months after I got it, they started selling them in the UK for almost £100 less - DOH!! Very good seats but they are very "deep" so too tight for the middle seats of our 110 Landy - we use a Evolva 123 forward facer in that for our 3 year old.

I bought mine from Securatot. Kirsty was very helpful. You need to go and see them really as they cannot sell the Britax without seeing you first (a condition set by Britax as I understand it, Boobles?)

[boobles]

5678 said:

I bought mine from Securatot. Kirsty was very helpful. You need to go and see them really as they cannot sell the Britax without seeing you first (a condition set by Britax as I understand it, Boobles?)

Can't be certain on that one. Will find out though.

due to it being the "multitech" they basically order in what they need is my understanding, hence the need for an appointment.

Edited by boobles on Thursday 24th November 07:03

[lenats31]

I communicate with the owners of Securatot on a more private level once in a while. They say that this is a condition.

It´s because rearfacing seats are thought to be more difficult to install. there are more stages to the installation and with that higher risk of getting it wrong. Another issue is SPACE. It is SOOO sad and SOOO annying (I´m serious)having bought a seat without having seen it first or having it test fitted into your car, only to find out that it presses your knees into the glovebox or up your chin. Then you have to dig out money to return it and after that comes the struggle with finding another one. SO the condition is really fair enough. Rearfacing seats aren´t bad at all when you have seen it and tried it.

there are a lot of places where you can install the tether straps if you haven´t read up on it, which some people don´t. The best exsample of this would be the family that we met on a parking lot in Sweden. They had bought a rearfacing seat (not Britax) and had decided to try to install it themselves. the straps were attached to two different spots in the car - one in the front seat rail and the other one in the front seat itself (no space under that rail). Then they had "fenced" the seat with the straps and not attached them to the back of the seat. The car had the Volvo seperate eyelet set attached to the front seat rails. They weren´t clients by the way. it happend 3 years ago.

So taking the extra time and going those extra miles to buy a ´rearfacing car seat is time and money well spent in the long run. It might save you some hassle.

It is no different with forward facing seats really. Just because the car list says Ford Focus (EX)it could been Ford Focus 2008 or newer. and not Ford Focus 2000. Several of my clients have bought forward facing seats that didn´t fit after all no matter what.

[5678]

lenats31 said:

I communicate with the owners of Securatot on a more private level once in a while. They say that this is a condition.

It´s because rearfacing seats are thought to be more difficult to install. there are more stages to the installation and with that higher risk of getting it wrong. Another issue is SPACE. It is SOOO sad and SOOO annying (I´m serious)having bought a seat without having seen it first or having it test fitted into your car, only to find out that it presses your knees into the glovebox or up your chin. Then you have to dig out money to return it and after that comes the struggle with finding another one. SO the condition is really fair enough. Rearfacing seats aren´t bad at all when you have seen it and tried it.

there are a lot of places where you can install the tether straps if you haven´t read up on it, which some people don´t. The best exsample of this would be the family that we met on a parking lot in Sweden. They had bought a rearfacing seat (not Britax) and had decided to try to install it themselves. the straps were attached to two different spots in the car - one in the front seat rail and the other one in the front seat itself (no space under that rail). Then they had "fenced" the seat with the straps and not attached them to the back of the seat. The car had the Volvo seperate eyelet set attached to the front seat rails. They weren´t clients by the way. it happend 3 years ago.

So taking the extra time and going those extra miles to buy a ´rearfacing car seat is time and money well spent in the long run. It might save you some hassle.

It is no different with forward facing seats really. Just because the car list says Ford Focus (EX)it could been Ford Focus 2008 or newer. and not Ford Focus 2000. Several of my clients have bought forward facing seats that didn´t fit after all no matter what.

Trial fitting was essential for us. The Besafe turned out to be far too big and hit the windscreen before it touched the dash in our 6 series.

[boobles]

Very sad indeed.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/285822/Mercy-f...

[Zod]

boobles said:

Very sad indeed.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/285822/Mercy-f...

It beggars belief that a parent would not take care to ensure that a child is properly secured.

[boobles]

Zod said:

It beggars belief that a parent would not take care to ensure that a child is properly secured.

She probably thought that the seat inquestion was installed correct.

When I said "such a shame" I genuinely aimed it at educating parents in seat installations rather then blaming her.
She has paid the ultimate price & no parent should have to go through that.

[lenats31]

Agree! Nobody with in their right mind would do this on purpose. Thanks for the link Boobles. I´m going to use it!

[williamp]

Hi boobles. My son has just reached 12 months, and our car seat/pram combo needs to be replaced. My wife really likes the "Recaro young expert plus" with a isofix base for her Audi A6 and my C-class estate.

Any issues? Does it work better with isofix or without for these cars?

[boobles]

williamp said:

Hi boobles. My son has just reached 12 months, and our car seat/pram combo needs to be replaced. My wife really likes the "Recaro young expert plus" with a isofix base for her Audi A6 and my C-class estate.

Any issues? Does it work better with isofix or without for these cars?

Hi,

So long as the Isofix Base has been approved to use in both vehicles, it will be fine.
It's a good idea to pop along to the shop selling it & asking to see the vehicle application list (the product should come with this) atleast then you can see if both cars are listed on there as being ok to use. If any of the cars are not on the list, I wouldn't use it and I would look at others instead.

[tomvcarter]

Does this mean its not possible to use the car set in the fixed bucket seat at all, even if the Airbag can be deactivated with the OEM switch? The seat fits in the bucket well.

[boobles]

tomvcarter said:

Does this mean its not possible to use the car set in the fixed bucket seat at all, even if the Airbag can be deactivated with the OEM switch? The seat fits in the bucket well.

Which seat?