The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol II

[Blakewater]

The Vambo said:

donkmeister said:

The lorry driver is in no way blameless.

Unfortunately you cant force people to go faster, the bald tit was doing 80-85% of the speed limit almost all of the time and as annoying as this is, it is his perogative.

The wagon driver was driving either a class 1 or 2 (Merc Actros at a guess) and souded loaded when he was pulling away. So somewhere between 20-40 tons way too close to a 1.2 ton car, any sort of issue and they would be cutting baldylocks out with a tin opener.

Both a pair of clowns but only one of then is paid to drive, did extra training and knows better.

The Meriva driver was slowing a little over cautiously for bends, warnings of roadworks and traffic lights and was a little sudden on braking for the 40mph speed limit. He also never got up to the 50mph speed limit but was probably nearer to it according to his speedometer needle than the readout on the video shows. Really, he wasn't going any slower than the lorry driver was at the beginning of the video before he caught up with him at the lights. The lorry driver just became focused on driving up his chuff because he maybe wasn't quite as smooth in and out of the bends as the lorry driver would have been with a clear road ahead.

The lorry driver didn't know if he was following an elderly driver or a new driver who was driving within his personal limits. I'm not one for saying older drivers should be removed from the roads and new drivers need to be allowed to develop their skills.

I don't buy that the lorry driver couldn't avoid getting so close to the Meriva driver, the Meriva driver wasn't slowing randomly but was slowing for specific hazards towards the beginning of the video and in response to the tailgating towards the end. The lorry driver was either exercising poor observation and vehicle control to get so close or was seeking to intimidate the Meriva driver. Intimidate someone you think isn't going fast enough, deliberately or unintentionally, and they're unlikely to just start driving faster but safely and smoothly. You're going to cause an accident as they become distracted and panicked by you or they're going to get wound up and retaliate in some way like this guy did.

[Twilkes]

DM79 said:

My old man captured a bizarre little road rage incident earlier. There's no sound as it's my old mini 0801 I gave him and if you have sound on it crashes. https://youtu.be/1ci40uCMODY

The little wheels and the rider doing a left-turn signal with his arm make that video awesome.

[Blakewater]

robbiekhan said:

saaby93 said:

you were lucky
an innocent looking piece of water can hide a hole the size of a skip

Haha!

Remember this chap who thought he could drive through a puddle everyone else was turning round to avoid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HnYo8MInTA

You drove into deep water in the dark without getting out of your car to check it for depth and hidden hazards first. You got lucky, that doesn't mean you were right to take the risk.

[grayme]

Twilkes said:

DM79 said:

My old man captured a bizarre little road rage incident earlier. There's no sound as it's my old mini 0801 I gave him and if you have sound on it crashes. https://youtu.be/1ci40uCMODY

The little wheels and the rider doing a left-turn signal with his arm make that video awesome.

I'm really ANGRY, let me at you. Oh the door's locked, erm, I better get on my bike and drive like nothing happened...

[gretsch drummer]

grayme said:

Twilkes said:

DM79 said:

My old man captured a bizarre little road rage incident earlier. There's no sound as it's my old mini 0801 I gave him and if you have sound on it crashes. https://youtu.be/1ci40uCMODY

The little wheels and the rider doing a left-turn signal with his arm make that video awesome.

I'm really ANGRY, let me at you. Oh the door's locked, erm, I better get on my bike and drive like nothing happened...

Harrogate folk don't like causing scenes.

[Vipers]

gretsch drummer said:

grayme said:

Twilkes said:

DM79 said:

My old man captured a bizarre little road rage incident earlier. There's no sound as it's my old mini 0801 I gave him and if you have sound on it crashes. https://youtu.be/1ci40uCMODY

The little wheels and the rider doing a left-turn signal with his arm make that video awesome.

I'm really ANGRY, let me at you. Oh the door's locked, erm, I better get on my bike and drive like nothing happened...

Harrogate folk don't like causing scenes.

What a tt. Little bike = little richard.

[Bullett]

They know each other, looked like the Corsa looked his door as the biker got off.

[Byker28i]

Blakewater said:

I don't buy that the lorry driver couldn't avoid getting so close to the Meriva driver, the Meriva driver wasn't slowing randomly but was slowing for specific hazards towards the beginning of the video and in response to the tailgating towards the end. The lorry driver was either exercising poor observation and vehicle control to get so close or was seeking to intimidate the Meriva driver. Intimidate someone you think isn't going fast enough, deliberately or unintentionally, and they're unlikely to just start driving faster but safely and smoothly. You're going to cause an accident as they become distracted and panicked by you or they're going to get wound up and retaliate in some way like this guy did.

Old boy was a tt - deliberately slowing as he didn't like the truck so close, then to brake check a lorry - unforgivable. Thats reportable straight away, so his licence isnt renewed.

Truck driver let the old boys antics get to him. Also stupid given the suggested size of vehicle and load, but you can understand his frustration

[Byker28i]

grayme said:

Twilkes said:

DM79 said:

My old man captured a bizarre little road rage incident earlier. There's no sound as it's my old mini 0801 I gave him and if you have sound on it crashes. https://youtu.be/1ci40uCMODY

The little wheels and the rider doing a left-turn signal with his arm make that video awesome.

I'm really ANGRY, let me at you. Oh the door's locked, erm, I better get on my bike and drive like nothing happened...

What kicked that off? Also is that bike legal without rear lights/brake lights?

[Mr Snrub]

Perhaps they had some previous? Both chav wagons so probably showed some disrespect on Facebook

[xRIEx]

gretsch drummer said:

grayme said:

Twilkes said:

DM79 said:

My old man captured a bizarre little road rage incident earlier. There's no sound as it's my old mini 0801 I gave him and if you have sound on it crashes. https://youtu.be/1ci40uCMODY

The little wheels and the rider doing a left-turn signal with his arm make that video awesome.

I'm really ANGRY, let me at you. Oh the door's locked, erm, I better get on my bike and drive like nothing happened...

Harrogate folk don't like causing scenes.

He looked through the window and saw that the driver was Ronnie Pickering.

[Mammasaid]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/shockin...

Thoughts?

Car driver in wrong by not indicating, biker in wrong by undertaking in bus lane?

[Frimley111R]

Mammasaid said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/shockin...

Thoughts?

Car driver in wrong by not indicating, biker in wrong by undertaking in bus lane?

Both wrong really although by braking for the corner the biker ends up inside the car and, iirc, its mirror-signal-m...

EDIT: Watched it again, car driver's fault 100%

Edited by Frimley111R on Friday 24th June 13:51

[ambuletz]

Mammasaid said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/shockin...

Thoughts?

Car driver in wrong by not indicating, biker in wrong by undertaking in bus lane?

100% driver
many bus lanes can be used by motorbikes, also it depends on the time of day, was the bus lane in force or not? if not then the golf was even more in the wrong as they should me in the left most lane. hardly undertaking when the car is the one thats slowing down.

[Chester draws]

Obviously the car driver at fault.

But I wonder if the biker would happily do the same thing again in the future, or will they consider the possibility of the car turning left and reduce their speed next time?

[sim16v]

Completely disagree.

Looked like the biker was going for an overtake in the bus lane.

What happened to riding defensively and actually expecting the unexpected happening in front of you?

Bike rider was going too fast if he couldn't avoid the car, no matter what the car decided to do.

[xRIEx]

sim16v said:

Completely disagree.

Looked like the biker was going for an overtake in the bus lane.

What happened to riding defensively and actually expecting the unexpected happening in front of you?

Bike rider was going too fast if he couldn't avoid the car, no matter what the car decided to do.

I've seen buses do that all the time. What would the situation have been if the bike had been a bus, instead?

[Marcellus]

xRIEx said:

I've seen buses do that all the time. What would the situation have been if the bike had been a bus, instead?

Big difference being a bus is big, red, slow, highly visible and you'd expect it to be there... a motorbike is small, quick, invisible (to a lot of drivers) and you wouldn't expect it to be undertaking you.

I suspect an insurer would settle on the car drives side.

[xRIEx]

Marcellus said:

xRIEx said:

I've seen buses do that all the time. What would the situation have been if the bike had been a bus, instead?

Big difference being a bus is big, red, slow, highly visible and you'd expect it to be there... a motorbike is small, quick, invisible (to a lot of drivers) and you wouldn't expect it to be undertaking you.

I suspect an insurer would settle on the car drives side.

So you're saying the car driver didn't look hard enough when they checked their mirrors?

Why would you not expect a motorbike to be in a bus lane in London?

ETA: Conversely, I would expect an insurer to side with the motorcyclist - the car was making a manoeuvre (and therefore making the 'risky' action), the bike was continuing in its direction and position in the road.

Yes, the biker should have anticipated st driving and I expect he's going to learn from this lesson.

Edited by xRIEx on Friday 24th June 13:45

[Marcellus]

I think the bike put themselves in a dangerous position, I think the car driver wasn't as observant as they could/should be.

But the car driver will say "the bike came out of no where, was in my blind spot whilst trying to illegally undertake me" all of which is supported by the bikers camera evidence whereas the bikers defence will be "the car driver should have seen me".