The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread
Discussion
Finlandia said:
Centurion07 said:
andy-xr said:
He just steamed into a roundabout that had someone on it and didnt like what they were doing on it.
What, you mean stopping for no good reason?
As I said, he didn't help himself by going so fast as to unsettle her. That doesn't excuse her piss-poor judgement in stopping where she did though.
The cyclist played no part in the car stopping? So if there was no cyclist, the car would have stopped? You can see what you're typing right?
As for stopping. It's not like we're short of videos of crashes which 99% of the time show vehicles stopping when sensing an imminent crash under similar conditions.
As for stopping. It's not like we're short of videos of crashes which 99% of the time show vehicles stopping when sensing an imminent crash under similar conditions.
Edited by Thermobaric on Wednesday 30th September 16:40
Thermobaric said:
The cyclist played no part in the car stopping? So if there was no cyclist, the car would have stopped? You can see what you're typing right?
Apparently you can't.centurion07 said:
He didn't help himself by going so fast as to unsettle her
The point is no matter how fast the cyclist was going, she stopped in THE worst place possible because she gave him nowhere to go. That was down to her poor judgement.Centurion07 said:
Finlandia said:
Centurion07 said:
andy-xr said:
He just steamed into a roundabout that had someone on it and didnt like what they were doing on it.
What, you mean stopping for no good reason?As I said, he didn't help himself by going so fast as to unsettle her. That doesn't excuse her piss-poor judgement in stopping where she did though.
Centurion07 said:
Thermobaric said:
The cyclist played no part in the car stopping? So if there was no cyclist, the car would have stopped? You can see what you're typing right?
Apparently you can't.centurion07 said:
He didn't help himself by going so fast as to unsettle her
The point is no matter how fast the cyclist was going, she stopped in THE worst place possible because she gave him nowhere to go. That was down to her poor judgement.Nowhere to go? How about behind the give way line?
As Heebee said, it wasn't necessary for him to stop; if she'd just carried on he would've gone round the back of her.
She did two things wrong: not checking properly for traffic entering the roundabout which led to the second which was a kneejerk reaction in just stopping where she was.
She did two things wrong: not checking properly for traffic entering the roundabout which led to the second which was a kneejerk reaction in just stopping where she was.
Thermobaric said:
Centurion07 said:
Thermobaric said:
The cyclist played no part in the car stopping? So if there was no cyclist, the car would have stopped? You can see what you're typing right?
Apparently you can't.
Finlandia said:
She did what she did out of instinct, something suddenly heads your way with speed then your instinct tells you to brake or swerve.
IF she'd been paying attention as she came round the roundabout she would've clocked the cyclist, the speed he was going, and made a judgement call on if he was going to end up in front or behind her. For that reason he didn't "suddenly" appear. Dozy bint didn't see him early enough. You're wrong. She should have checked? Lol. She's driving around the roundabout with right of way. He should have checked his route was clear.
Have you never seen an accident? As I said, it's instinct to stop if you think an accident is about to happen. You're a liability on the roads if you think what he did is acceptable. All because he didn't want to do a bit of extra pedaling. Perhaps he shouldn't be bloody cycling if that's the case.
Have you never seen an accident? As I said, it's instinct to stop if you think an accident is about to happen. You're a liability on the roads if you think what he did is acceptable. All because he didn't want to do a bit of extra pedaling. Perhaps he shouldn't be bloody cycling if that's the case.
Centurion07 said:
As Heebee said, it wasn't necessary for him to stop; if she'd just carried on he would've gone round the back of her.
She did two things wrong: not checking properly for traffic entering the roundabout which led to the second which was a kneejerk reaction in just stopping where she was.
It wasn't necessary to stop, but to give way.She did two things wrong: not checking properly for traffic entering the roundabout which led to the second which was a kneejerk reaction in just stopping where she was.
Since when is it the responsibility of the one in the roundabout to check for those entering it? Unless this happened in France, it's the one entering the roundabout who should slow down and/or stop to let traffic already in the roundabout clear off before entering.
Centurion07 said:
Finlandia said:
She did what she did out of instinct, something suddenly heads your way with speed then your instinct tells you to brake or swerve.
IF she'd been paying attention as she came round the roundabout she would've clocked the cyclist, the speed he was going, and made a judgement call on if he was going to end up in front or behind her. For that reason he didn't "suddenly" appear. Dozy bint didn't see him early enough. Thermobaric said:
You're wrong. She should have checked? Lol. She's driving around the roundabout with right of way. He should have checked his route was clear.
Of course she should have f
king checked!!!!! It's called "being aware of your surroundings". Do you not look around you when driving to assess any potential hazards?His route WOULD have been clear had she just carried on but because she hadn't assessed the hazard properly she panicked when she caught him in her peripheral vision.
Centurion07 said:
I agree, he should have anticipated something could happen, but there was nothing in front of her causing her stop, and since she was turning in there it doesn't matter what was coming get out of there.
As I said, 80% her fault, 20% him.
You've got it backwards. Seriously, are you thick? If you are, just say so because I can lower my expectation of what to expect. As I said, 80% her fault, 20% him.
The driver in this case did nothing wrong, decided to stop to avert an accident from a cyclist who was going too quick and trying too hard to keep going when they didnt have right of way.
The cyclist is a more vulnerable road user, and the driver I'd hope recognised that and probably, hopefully didnt want to knock someone off their bike. So they stopped. You cant hit someone if you're stationary
In the case of the Audi vs the cyclist, the Audi driver was a throbber, I'm not anti cyclist, it's anti nobhead
Centurion07 said:
I agree, he should have anticipated something could happen.
0% her fault, 100% him.
EFA. A problem entirely of the cyclist's own making and he should've accepted it as such. s0% her fault, 100% him.
t roadcraft. More boring than Ronnie Pickering now, but at least there is a consensus on this.Centurion07 said:
IF she'd been paying attention as she came round the roundabout she would've clocked the cyclist,
At the 8 second mark it looks like she is looking directly at him. ( not very clear though)It's only the cyclists opinion that she didn't see him, he has no idea what she did or didn't see or what she thought.
andy-xr said:
Cyclist did none of these things:
When reaching the roundabout you should
give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off
He just steamed into a roundabout that had someone on it and didnt like what they were doing on it.
1 give priority to traffic from the right? Yes he did, as he intended to go behind the car not cut in front of itWhen reaching the roundabout you should
give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off
He just steamed into a roundabout that had someone on it and didnt like what they were doing on it.
2 irrelevant
3 he's watching the car and able to stop in time
4 I assume this means queuing traffic, and there's nothing queuing in front of him
It was a silly reaction from the woman, and a misjudgement of speed from the cyclist. That's all.
Edited by budgie smuggler on Wednesday 30th September 17:19
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