Why hasn't the 370z worked?

Why hasn't the 370z worked?

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Baryonyx

18,034 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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I think it's because the 350Z wasn't particularly good, there was no fire of excitement about the 370Z.

B Huey

4,881 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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I haven't seen many Nissans about, similarly I see very few new Z4s around either.

I think buyers in this segment are holding on to their cash.

Olivera

7,285 posts

241 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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The 350Z and Mazda RX8 sold very well initially before the c02 based road tax was introduced. The new c02 bands caused the road tax for these cars to double overnight, to a now frankly ridiculous £460 a year, or £503 a year if you buy 6 monthly! This reason more than any other is why the 370Z is not selling.

PGN 500sl

2,946 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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jvl said:
The BMW 135i looks like a better deal even if it costs a bit more. Similar performance but you get 4 seats, much better fuel economy and much cheaper road tax.
you are correct on all the above but........... the 1 series looks crap.

collateral

7,238 posts

220 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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RichB said:
Not as good looking as the 350Z IMO...
Agree. Doesn't look as good as the old one, uses even more fuel, doesn't have a German badge on the front...

It's a shame because I suspect the unpopularity of the Z over here has put Hyundai off bringing the Genesis coupe across the water

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

192 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Baryonyx said:
I think it's because the 350Z wasn't particularly good, there was no fire of excitement about the 370Z.
I'm sorry but what???

Baryonyx

18,034 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
I'm sorry but what???
Please see the numerous recent threads about the 350Z.

Grovsie26

1,302 posts

169 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Maybe if they were a Turbo Diesel, which 300 kindly pointed out sound awesome, it would of sold?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

192 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Baryonyx said:
300bhp/ton said:
I'm sorry but what???
Please see the numerous recent threads about the 350Z.
Maybe you could point me towards one or two of them?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

192 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Grovsie26 said:
Maybe if they were a Turbo Diesel, which 300 kindly pointed out sound awesome, it would of sold?
Doesn't seem to have done any harm to 1 Series Coupe or Audi TT sales.

AndyLB

428 posts

166 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Chrisw666 said:
The 350Z was never a huge seller and struggled to better 20mpg for most of the owners I have spoken to.
350Z Owner here, spirited driving gives an easy 24-26mpg, careful driving can see high 20s, can even see 33 on the motorway.

Whoever's struggling to better 20mpg must have something wrong with their Z!

66comanche

2,369 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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jon1980 said:
I had mine for 9 months and sold it for just under what I paid for it, but it was the black edition. Heavy old girl but still fun, very nice for a motorway waft!
I think this is damning with faint praise and reveals the reason why it hasn't worked, if it is best praised for how it is on a motorway! IMO it should be a sports car and in its element on a road with some corners, many other cars will do motorway wafting much better, more efficiently and with a better badge for those that are bothered.

John D.

18,059 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Baryonyx said:
I think it's because the 350Z wasn't particularly good, there was no fire of excitement about the 370Z.
What crap.

I've wondered recently why I see so few 370Z. Only reason I can come up with is the state of economy/cost of fuel putting people off, perhaps coupled with more competition from cars such as VW Scirocco (sp?!) which come in more economical diesel flavour.

Great looking car in my book.

mike9009

7,080 posts

245 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Well according to the stats there are some 7444 350Zs licensed at the moment and Only 1276 370Zs. So therefore the 370Z is nowhere near as popular as the 350Z.

I know the 370 has not been on sale as long as the 350, but the numbers are still significantly different.

Mike

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

200 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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I've never liked the fat heavy looking arse on them, then looking closer the rear strutbrace ruins the boot space, it is heavy, it isn't particularly quick, it's thirsty, not spacious I think it has little going for it really. However it is a segment if the market I have never been interested in its firmly a GT car for me. I prefer light and nimble or a proper cruiser. You could I guess say it's a compromise between both if you only own one car - however it's lack of practicality stops that.

B Huey

4,881 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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The 370 hasn't sold nearly as well as the 350 in the States, if Wikipedia is to be believed.

otolith

56,739 posts

206 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Crafty_ said:
I think the engine killed them really, why have the heavy fuel & road fund costs when you could have a 4 pot turbo with the same (or better) performance and cheaper costs, probably be a bit lighter too.
I can only speak for the 350Z, I've not tried the 370Z, but I would say that the main reason for not fitting a four pot instead is that the V6 is a really nice engine that doesn't sound st, and a blown four pot would fail on both those counts.

Olivera

7,285 posts

241 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Herman Toothrot said:
I've never liked the fat heavy looking arse on them, then looking closer the rear strutbrace ruins the boot space, it is heavy, it isn't particularly quick, it's thirsty, not spacious I think it has little going for it really. However it is a segment if the market I have never been interested in its firmly a GT car for me. I prefer light and nimble or a proper cruiser. You could I guess say it's a compromise between both if you only own one car - however it's lack of practicality stops that.
The 370Z has no rear brace blocking the passenger shelf, is lighter than a 350Z at 1496kg (less than most other 6 cylinder coupes), and has been tested as 0-60mph in 4.7s, probably the fastest of any car on sale at it's price point. It is a very good car, but isn't selling due to the maximum road tax band and mpg/cost of fuel.

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

200 months

Monday 3rd October 2011
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Olivera said:
The 370Z has no rear brace blocking the passenger shelf, is lighter than a 350Z at 1496kg (less than most other 6 cylinder coupes), and has been tested as 0-60mph in 4.7s, probably the fastest of any car on sale at it's price point. It is a very good car, but isn't selling due to the maximum road tax band and mpg/cost of fuel.
Maybe you just demonstrated another reason with me, I looked over the old car and assumed the new one to be much the same.

kambites

67,723 posts

223 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Olivera said:
The 370Z has no rear brace blocking the passenger shelf, is lighter than a 350Z at 1496kg (less than most other 6 cylinder coupes), and has been tested as 0-60mph in 4.7s, probably the fastest of any car on sale at it's price point. It is a very good car, but isn't selling due to the maximum road tax band and mpg/cost of fuel.
It's still heavier than the Cayman, Evora, TTV6 or Z4C and I can't really think of any other similar sized 6-cylinder coupes. I'm certainly not saying it's a bad car, but it is still quite heavy.

I think I'd put the relative lack of sales down to badge snobbery and lack of awareness more than anything tangible about the car itself. Most "sports cars" are not bought by driving enthusiasts. As sad as it is, if they offered a four-pot diesel version for a bit less money, it'd probably sell in droves.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 4th October 10:18