What car - for the end of the world?
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I thought about this as a kid. I always pictured myself in some VAG 1.9TDI with mad-max oil drums in the boot affording me a range of thousands of miles. Obviously id need some secret performance weapon for when 110hp lugging around half a ton of diesel wasnt quick enough to outrun motorcycle gangs.
Are we assuming the roads are full of broken down cars or are they clear of traffic?
Is there much petrol to be found?
Are there zombies? Hippies? Angry corporate bankers with knuckdusters made from smashed Breitling watches?
Do I need to travel each day stopping in a new place each night?
Or – do I just need a vehicle for scavenging mission out from my base of operations?
Will I need to bring things back from my missions?
If so, will it be fuel, food, damsels that I have rescued from distress, clean underwear?
I'm thinking, depending on all those questions and more.
I'll have the Goodyear blimp with an enduro bike on a rope.
Is there much petrol to be found?
Are there zombies? Hippies? Angry corporate bankers with knuckdusters made from smashed Breitling watches?
Do I need to travel each day stopping in a new place each night?
Or – do I just need a vehicle for scavenging mission out from my base of operations?
Will I need to bring things back from my missions?
If so, will it be fuel, food, damsels that I have rescued from distress, clean underwear?
I'm thinking, depending on all those questions and more.
I'll have the Goodyear blimp with an enduro bike on a rope.
12gauge said:
I thought about this as a kid. I always pictured myself in some VAG 1.9TDI with mad-max oil drums in the boot affording me a range of thousands of miles. Obviously id need some secret performance weapon for when 110hp lugging around half a ton of diesel wasnt quick enough to outrun motorcycle gangs.
Don't forget you'll need a good stock of VW 505.01 spec oil too. Wouldn't want you getting caught out with some inappropriate 505.00 for heaven's sake.peterperkins said:
You also need something that can run on hooch or melted down bodies/animals or veg oil or the crudest of fuels as petrol/diesel will be one of the first things to be used up. In fact a steam powered vehicle might be your best bet, the steam lorry/bus that runs around Whitby might be a good choice.
given older diesels can run on diesel, avtur, kero, heating oil, warmed and filtered veg oil or bucket chemistry biodiesel ( and in the true end of the world scenario vosa would not be diesel dipping) and a petrol engine could be adapted to run on 'producer gas' this renders that argument a little moot - especially given the skilled car a steam locomotive whether on rails or tyres needs r1ch said:
I don't know much about robust cars owning a Peugeot.
But I think maybe this
Is this a good choice or are they rubbish.
They even do a Peugeot version.But I think maybe this
Is this a good choice or are they rubbish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_P4
12gauge said:
I really like that actually.peterperkins said:
You also need something that can run on hooch or melted down bodies/animals or veg oil or the crudest of fuels as petrol/diesel will be one of the first things to be used up. In fact a steam powered vehicle might be your best bet, the steam lorry/bus that runs around Whitby might be a good choice.
Good suggestion. Some people converted petrol cars to steam power during WW2 so that might be the way to go in the very long term.I was thinking an old diesel car for your reasons too. Any simple pre-common rail engine should be able to burn basically anything (less to get clagged up). Gas turbine would be even better, but not so easy to find. Something like this:
chazola said:
my Merc W124 diesel estate- it's solid, low key, I can fit loads in it and it runs fine on vegetable oil I can loot from corner shops and supermarkets once all the petrol stations have run dry.
Which is one of my favourites so far. It's discreet - far more so than a pickup which is the sort of thing everyone will want - it's very easy to maintain and will run forever. It might need 4WD though, so:Snowboy said:
Assuming it's a vehicle we need to source ourselves from the local area, without resorting to excessive violence.
I'm going for a Toyota Hilux.
Either the Surf (estate) imported version or a twin cab pick up.
I'd probably prefer my 15 year old 3L 3rd gen Surf – it has less tricky electrics than a modern one and can run on pretty much any sort of liquid fuel.
This is also a great suggestion, as was the Nissan Patrol.I'm going for a Toyota Hilux.
Either the Surf (estate) imported version or a twin cab pick up.
I'd probably prefer my 15 year old 3L 3rd gen Surf – it has less tricky electrics than a modern one and can run on pretty much any sort of liquid fuel.
VR6 Turbo said:
also does the OP know something we don't?
Not now I've shared it all with you This is a vehicle which has to serve you and your immediate family for 'a while.' You're going to be on the move a fair bit. The sea might be your eventual escape but you've got to find a vessel, round up your crew (I think the naked blonde comes as standard on anything over 50') and provision the boat, all of which might take a few weeks. Zombies are not part of this scenario, which is good in one way but does mean that the population is about the same as it is now. Competition for resources will be fierce.
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