RE: Detroit show: the NSX is back
Discussion
It does seem a fragmentation is happening in the super car sector - Porsche 911, some Astons, Audi R8 and now this (i'm guessing) forming a £80-120k price area of lovely but very parctical and stunning cars that really are daily drivers and totally liveable with - with then the Ferrari et al £150k+ segment for the few who can afford and know how to drive them, but much more for the can afford and want to drive on the Kings Road brigade - perhaps more stunning but not something you'd use every day.
When I was young you really did only have the 911 for the practical users and every road test was the 911 against the 308 - we are being very blessed to have these choices!!
When I was young you really did only have the 911 for the practical users and every road test was the 911 against the 308 - we are being very blessed to have these choices!!
Dakkon said:
PHMatt said:
V6 Hybrid.
If it's more than £70k I think they may be pushing their luck.
When you get to £100k for super cars I'd personally be looking over at Italy and a baby Lamborghini. One that when you hit the throttle it makes a noise that releases the caveman hormones.
Not a whiney Honda engine and a big remote control car engine.
Visially it looks a whole lot more interesting than the old one did though.
I 100% agree, the pricing of this car is critical, if it is up at LFA prices then it is really not worth it and it will have to be really special if it is over 100k to tempt people away from anything Italian.If it's more than £70k I think they may be pushing their luck.
When you get to £100k for super cars I'd personally be looking over at Italy and a baby Lamborghini. One that when you hit the throttle it makes a noise that releases the caveman hormones.
Not a whiney Honda engine and a big remote control car engine.
Visially it looks a whole lot more interesting than the old one did though.
If it is 911 / R8 money then they may do well with it.
I'm getting bored of this currently in-vogue design language that seems to be prevalent across the automotive world at the moment.
The Macca, the new Esprit, this NSX, the Evora, the Lambo stable, the 458 are all seem to follow one homogenised sharp edged, faceted, super-car template to my eyes.
It would be nice to see a super-car with some feminine curves for a change.
Here starts the 'Bring Back French Curves into Automotive Design Campaign'
And for you youngsters that have no idea what I'm talking about:
It's what us designers used to use before CAD existed
The Macca, the new Esprit, this NSX, the Evora, the Lambo stable, the 458 are all seem to follow one homogenised sharp edged, faceted, super-car template to my eyes.
It would be nice to see a super-car with some feminine curves for a change.
Here starts the 'Bring Back French Curves into Automotive Design Campaign'
And for you youngsters that have no idea what I'm talking about:
It's what us designers used to use before CAD existed
rhinochopig said:
I'm getting bored of this currently in-vogue design language that seems to be prevalent across the automotive world at the moment.
The Macca, the new Esprit, this NSX, the Evora, the Lambo stable, the 458 are all seem to follow one homogenised sharp edged, faceted, super-car template to my eyes.
It would be nice to see a super-car with some feminine curves for a change.
Here starts the 'Bring Back French Curves into Automotive Design Campaign'
And for you youngsters that have no idea what I'm talking about:
It's what us designers used to use before CAD existed
Everything to me is now designed in a wind tunnel, and hence all basically have the same profile.The Macca, the new Esprit, this NSX, the Evora, the Lambo stable, the 458 are all seem to follow one homogenised sharp edged, faceted, super-car template to my eyes.
It would be nice to see a super-car with some feminine curves for a change.
Here starts the 'Bring Back French Curves into Automotive Design Campaign'
And for you youngsters that have no idea what I'm talking about:
It's what us designers used to use before CAD existed
Johnboy Mac said:
rhinochopig said:
Here starts the 'Bring Back French Curves into Automotive Design Campaign'
What you really mean is the best looking Sports/Supercars were designed in the 60,70 & 80's In the 60s it was all about the curves baby and the sports cars reflected that.
In the image obsessed nineties and noughties where stick thin angular models are king we get these pointy monstrosities.
rhinochopig said:
I'm getting bored of this currently in-vogue design language that seems to be prevalent across the automotive world at the moment.
The Macca, the new Esprit, this NSX, the Evora, the Lambo stable, the 458 are all seem to follow one homogenised sharp edged, faceted, super-car template to my eyes.
It would be nice to see a super-car with some feminine curves for a change.
Here starts the 'Bring Back French Curves into Automotive Design Campaign'
And for you youngsters that have no idea what I'm talking about:
It's what us designers used to use before CAD existed
And it's what us young designers still use today. I agree about the styling though. Although the 458 has a great flow to it. This doesn't, not for me. But the original never sold on it's looks, it was the performance that attracted most owners. That's going to have to change if they want it to be a sales success. No doubt the production model will be watered down a tad.The Macca, the new Esprit, this NSX, the Evora, the Lambo stable, the 458 are all seem to follow one homogenised sharp edged, faceted, super-car template to my eyes.
It would be nice to see a super-car with some feminine curves for a change.
Here starts the 'Bring Back French Curves into Automotive Design Campaign'
And for you youngsters that have no idea what I'm talking about:
It's what us designers used to use before CAD existed
If only the guy who penned the Mk1 Focus had realised what he did was to be wrecklessly reproduced for years to come, he may never have bothered.
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