Amargeddon proof cars!
Discussion
Johnboy Mac said:
GravelBen said:
The Nissan GQ Safari/Patrol trumps the Landcruiser.
Why so? And what version?
Johnboy Mac said:
I considered nominating the G but I suspect (from driving many) the Land Cruiser would be hard to beat, also not to be dismissed, all those Aussies can't wrong.
they tend to prefer the landrovers but due them being more expensive the landcruiser is a cheaper option (and I live on the outback border and also work in the most remote community in Australia)james280779 said:
they tend to prefer the landrovers but due them being more expensive the landcruiser is a cheaper option (and I live on the outback border and also work in the most remote community in Australia)
I've seen one "Proper" LR in the last 18months and it's a polished garage queen.Most the mines I've heard are Toyota (Hilux or Troopy).
Me and the missus love Hi Luxes and i also love Landcruisers, Im sure they are the default bush tracking car for a reason. you never see a Range Rover on "worlds most dangerous roads" do you!!! Not that Ive a downer on JLR, as i love the classic defender...
Honda motocycle is definitely armagedden proof but Im also wondering if the Peugeot 205 is?
There seem to be a lot still around, mainly diesels, but I know someone who used to service GTIs who reckon the 1.9 engine is bomb proof...ours is still going strong at 22 years, they dont rust and once they valve seals are done at 100K they will do another 100K easily!!
But the diesel, now they will do 500K miles easily and dont rust, so there will still be a few around in another decade, not had for a flimsy french car, eh, all you french car haters!!
Honda motocycle is definitely armagedden proof but Im also wondering if the Peugeot 205 is?
There seem to be a lot still around, mainly diesels, but I know someone who used to service GTIs who reckon the 1.9 engine is bomb proof...ours is still going strong at 22 years, they dont rust and once they valve seals are done at 100K they will do another 100K easily!!
But the diesel, now they will do 500K miles easily and dont rust, so there will still be a few around in another decade, not had for a flimsy french car, eh, all you french car haters!!
Edited by Bezza1969 on Sunday 5th August 09:43
After putting my toolbox and mountain bike in the boot and as many spares for the bicycle as I could fit in, I'd drive my own car to a remote place where I could survive as I needed.
Then I'd put the car up on bricks and drain the fluids, to be reinstated if I needed to. After that, I'd use the mountain bike and never look back.
Some of you can spanner a Landcruiser/Hilux to keep it going, and I know a little to spanner what I could but I know I'd struggle. I can change bits on a bicycle if I have to and I'm confident I could keep one going for a very long time if I needed to. Petrol and diesel degrades over time in storage; tyres will be a sod to replace; spares will be hard to come by.
If I had time, I might try to nab a Hilux and a 50cc or 125cc bike for future use because I might have a fighting chance at spannering one, but I know for a fact that I could keep a mountain bike moving for longer.
Then I'd put the car up on bricks and drain the fluids, to be reinstated if I needed to. After that, I'd use the mountain bike and never look back.
Some of you can spanner a Landcruiser/Hilux to keep it going, and I know a little to spanner what I could but I know I'd struggle. I can change bits on a bicycle if I have to and I'm confident I could keep one going for a very long time if I needed to. Petrol and diesel degrades over time in storage; tyres will be a sod to replace; spares will be hard to come by.
If I had time, I might try to nab a Hilux and a 50cc or 125cc bike for future use because I might have a fighting chance at spannering one, but I know for a fact that I could keep a mountain bike moving for longer.
Screw you guys, I'm getting something serious!
Engine BHP: 300 BHP
Engine Displacement: 19,200 cc
Engine Torque: 875 ft lbs
Oh, and it's amphibious. And will run on anything you can pour into its tanks.
Though I suspect the fuel efficiency may not be the greatest. And I suspect missile not included.
Engine BHP: 300 BHP
Engine Displacement: 19,200 cc
Engine Torque: 875 ft lbs
Oh, and it's amphibious. And will run on anything you can pour into its tanks.
Though I suspect the fuel efficiency may not be the greatest. And I suspect missile not included.
Johnboy Mac said:
GravelBen said:
GQ model - late 80s-90s 4.2 diesel. Commonly regarded among 4wd communities as being stronger and more reliable than Landcruisers. Not that the Cruiser is weak or bad, just the Safari is a bit better.
You mean the Nissan may have been a bit better 20/30 years ago. Plenty of farmers are hanging onto their old Hiluxes because the new ones break too easily as well, the problem IMO is the market pressure of people who want to buy one but never go offroad and want it to be nicer on the road instead - the companies will make whatever sells better.
Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 5th August 13:27
Genelec said:
Screw you guys, I'm getting something serious!
Engine BHP: 300 BHP
Engine Displacement: 19,200 cc
Engine Torque: 875 ft lbs
Oh, and it's amphibious. And will run on anything you can pour into its tanks.
Though I suspect the fuel efficiency may not be the greatest. And I suspect missile not included.
I've already called a tank.Engine BHP: 300 BHP
Engine Displacement: 19,200 cc
Engine Torque: 875 ft lbs
Oh, and it's amphibious. And will run on anything you can pour into its tanks.
Though I suspect the fuel efficiency may not be the greatest. And I suspect missile not included.
GravelBen said:
I mean the newer models of both are often considered less reliable than the old versions (mainly because of simplicity vs more technology to go wrong), and of the old versions the Nissan is a bit better. Agreed that of the newer engine designs the Toyotas have a better rep, but wikipedia tells me you can actually still buy Y61 Patrol/Safaris with the TD42 and TB48 straight-6 motors.
Plenty of farmers are hanging onto their old Hiluxes because the new ones break too easily as well, the problem IMO is the market pressure of people who want to buy one but never go offroad and want it to be nicer on the road instead - the companies will make whatever sells better.
I don't think you have any experience of the poor build quality of modern Patrols, they were so poor even one Army ditched them after being a customer for thirty years. Plenty of farmers are hanging onto their old Hiluxes because the new ones break too easily as well, the problem IMO is the market pressure of people who want to buy one but never go offroad and want it to be nicer on the road instead - the companies will make whatever sells better.
Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 5th August 13:27
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