RE: £4m classic on the limit...
Discussion
scholesy said:
It is odd when you think that it is really an entirely reproducible bit of metal, obviously you can't make the history and heritage that goes with it, but I know what you're saying at root. Strange things us human beings, nostalgia and provenance can make something arguably worthless, priceless, just like that, all because of an emotion.
Nicely put... it just got me thinking about this the other day…I was looking at a period photo of a 300SL gullwing, it was a stripped car, with the parts roughly assembled in the correct position. There really was not very much to add upto the current monetary valuation of the car. Metal panels, a few seats, wheels, an engine. It is a question when you look at the sum of its parts, is a car ever actually worth over a certain amount of money and what is that amount.Motorheads said:
Its true you can't rationalise the value. But thats not the point. If we were rational we'd all be driving Golfs. We're not and we don't. We climb moutains, fall in love and invent iPhones. Being human isn't about being rational, thank God.
I think it's pretty evident that everyone knows the prices for things like this aren't rational, we were just being reflective on the value of them because of the emotions surrounding them, rather than their quantifiable value.
Itsallicanafford said:
...the current monetary valuation of the car. Metal panels, a few seats, wheels, an engine. It is a question when you look at the sum of its parts, is a car ever actually worth over a certain amount of money and what is that amount.
An argument which can be applied to any antique or artwork. take any of the works by the grand masters, they are clearly reproducable for a few hundred quid by a good artist so why pay millions? Because the brush strokes were laid down by Rembrandt not Ron Brown. People pay for provenance and history. duncanlarke said:
If that's what Itsallicanafford really thinks I don't understand why he is a member of Pistonheads,seeing as the majority of people on this site would spend their hard earned cash going to Goodwood or Le Man& the Classic to lust/drool over beautiful and expensive cars.
... It doesn't have to be expensive to appreciate it, does it? SOTW tells us that.Itsallicanafford said:
duncanlarke said:
If that's what Itsallicanafford really thinks I don't understand why he is a member of Pistonheads,seeing as the majority of people on this site would spend their hard earned cash going to Goodwood or Le Man& the Classic to lust/drool over beautiful and expensive cars.
... It doesn't have to be expensive to appreciate it, does it? SOTW tells us that.
I did my ARDS test with Wil, and also some driver tuiton before hand. He was encouraginging me to not only use all the track(obviously), but also the kerbs in the pouring rain - even occaisionally grabbing the wheel and making me run well out onto the kerbs(almost over on a few occasions 
) - Legend 
I learnt a lot from him that day. I think we did OK as we managed to keep up with a 964 in my 110 TDI VW in the pouring rain!
) - Legend I learnt a lot from him that day. I think we did OK as we managed to keep up with a 964 in my 110 TDI VW in the pouring rain!marmite monster said:
no roll over bar death on a stick !
What possible use would a roll over bar be, when there are no seat belts anyway? A roll over bar would only be likely to catch & squash you, as you fell out. death on a stick !I drove in the last ever propper Le Mans start in Oz, Bathurst 1964, with not a seat belt or roll over bar in sight. Also drove in the last attempt, Surfers Paradice 1968, when we were all strapped into our cars with the now mandatory seat belts, & the co-driver ran across the road with the key. Only trouble many of the cars did not have a key, just a switch, so a LITTLE cheating occured.
Was it journalistic licence or is the author that naive. Almost all the cars of that era, [my era] up to late 60s handle that way. They were easy to drive, & so much more fun, because of that.
Steering boxes may not have been very precise, but they gave full feed back. It was nice to have, but you knew the thing was going to be tail happy anyway, particularly on narrow cross ply tyres.
My ideal car was, [& still is], the XK150S. Went like stink, stopped well, & was so slow around corners, you could feel like Fangio at speeds so slow you shouldn't get hurt if you did crash it.
The best cars ever. Most drivers could handle them, with their low limit, unlike today, when most cars have a limit the average driver will never reach, PHers excepted of course.
Marvelous car, epicly driven (I like how he started gently seeing as it was wet :-)
Tragic video but I think others have covered that....
Nothing sadder than a classic rusting over a full oil pan in a museam, much rather see them being ragged, it was what they where built for. Bet it looked "happy" ticking and sizzling in the rain afterwards too! :-)
Tragic video but I think others have covered that....
Nothing sadder than a classic rusting over a full oil pan in a museam, much rather see them being ragged, it was what they where built for. Bet it looked "happy" ticking and sizzling in the rain afterwards too! :-)
That's a fun video.
This vid is 30 secs in the famous Ian Appleyard NUB120
http://tinyurl.com/JaguarXKNUB120
This vid is 30 secs in the famous Ian Appleyard NUB120
http://tinyurl.com/JaguarXKNUB120
Nice article guys but FFS what a pointless video.
Does Chris Harris have all the gopro cameras at PH? They are cheap and the more the merrier..
Why not have one looking at his feet and another in the footwell looking at him, another stuck over his shoulder loking forward.
Instead it is a pointless video of a Gopro with a suction cup stuck above the fuel tank with the sound of the car fecked
Does Chris Harris have all the gopro cameras at PH? They are cheap and the more the merrier..
Why not have one looking at his feet and another in the footwell looking at him, another stuck over his shoulder loking forward.
Instead it is a pointless video of a Gopro with a suction cup stuck above the fuel tank with the sound of the car fecked
duncanlarke said:
If that's what Itsallicanafford really thinks I don't understand why he is a member of Pistonheads,seeing as the majority of people on this site would spend their hard earned cash going to Goodwood or Le Man& the Classic to lust/drool over beautiful and expensive cars.
Steady on. I understand what he means - it's odd in a way that such a thing's worth 4 million quid largely because of who owned it. Doesn't necessarily mean he appreciates it any less.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff