RE: Nissan GT-R MY14 and NISMO: Driven

[Benjaminbopper]

Would it be fair to say that the price difference of c.£40k would be better spent on a MY14 standard car with a some modifications?

I suppose it wouldn't be official and the purists may seek that...

[Axel350Z]

Residuals...

[BUG4LIFE]

I want one, bad!

[loveice]

Dave Hedgehog said:

is this the one that's just done a 7.08 ring time?

loving the red trim details

it appears it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUW47Uio6Y_pC_0N...

That one has an optional larger rear wing and some other optional cf exterior trim. They are called track package in the US. Don't know what this option package will be called in the rest of world.

[loveice]

the_hood said:

The standard GT-R should be fast enough for most people. The Nismo doesn't offer enough to justify the premium.

7.8 min ring time almost the same as P1 and 918 for 1/5-1/7 the price. If that isn't justification, what is?

[foxhounduk]

I love how the GTR is the epitomy of an underdog.

It doesn't care how it looks, or about it's badge, it just keeps its head down and focuses, getting better and improving every year, so much so that the other competitors look at it, green with pure envy and say, 'how is it doing this? how can it be so fast and so capable? at this price? how has it become so famous? how is it that the mere mention of it's name brings respect? how dare it? it shouldn't be this way.'

Oh but it is my friends. Oh but it is...

[toppstuff]

foxhounduk said:

I love how the GTR is the epitomy of an underdog.

It doesn't care how it looks, or about it's badge, it just keeps its head down and focuses, getting better and improving every year, so much so that the other competitors look at it, green with pure envy and say, 'how is it doing this? how can it be so fast and so capable? at this price? how has it become so famous? how is it that the mere mention of it's name brings respect? how dare it? it shouldn't be this way.'

Oh but it is my friends. Oh but it is...

I agree. Nissan are a perplexing company, so full of fantastic engineers when it comes to the GT-R programme. And you are right, they have a very, very different approach to the rest of the car industry. It is a cultural thing as well, they make no attempt to compete with the European brands in terms of marketing. They take a very different path.

I am personally pretty bored with some of the European brands. Cars from VAG, Porsche , all seem to be going in a different direction than I would like. Even Ferrari these days, are so wrapped up in their own image, full of ego and preening and posing, that it turns me right off. I am not the sort of person who wears a cashmere sweater over my shoulders and sunglasses on when I am indoors. And I am not a football player. Or a music producer. Most car companies seem to want to cater for that market and people who want to be in that market. There is too much of the footballer or Peter Andre about owning a Ferrari these days.

And then you get this GT-R. It is not very fashionable. It is a Nissan. It does not pretend to be anything else. It is not some badge-engineered, shared platform, aspirational "thing" that people choose based on brand or fashion.

These cars get on with the job and, considering they started work on this design years ago and the first R35 came out in 2008, it is amazing that other manufacturers have still only just started to catch up.

This is an engineers car. A geeks car. Unliked by many. Loved by some. And IMO it is very, very cool.

I want one badly. It is much more desirable than a 911 for me. After all, everyone gets a 911. I'd rather have the big Datsun.

[GS88]

So the Time Attack version weighs in at 1,670kg?

[Dusty964]

toppstuff said:

foxhounduk said:

I love how the GTR is the epitomy of an underdog.

It doesn't care how it looks, or about it's badge, it just keeps its head down and focuses, getting better and improving every year, so much so that the other competitors look at it, green with pure envy and say, 'how is it doing this? how can it be so fast and so capable? at this price? how has it become so famous? how is it that the mere mention of it's name brings respect? how dare it? it shouldn't be this way.'

Oh but it is my friends. Oh but it is...

I agree. Nissan are a perplexing company, so full of fantastic engineers when it comes to the GT-R programme. And you are right, they have a very, very different approach to the rest of the car industry. It is a cultural thing as well, they make no attempt to compete with the European brands in terms of marketing. They take a very different path.

I am personally pretty bored with some of the European brands. Cars from VAG, Porsche , all seem to be going in a different direction than I would like. Even Ferrari these days, are so wrapped up in their own image, full of ego and preening and posing, that it turns me right off. I am not the sort of person who wears a cashmere sweater over my shoulders and sunglasses on when I am indoors. And I am not a football player. Or a music producer. Most car companies seem to want to cater for that market and people who want to be in that market. There is too much of the footballer or Peter Andre about owning a Ferrari these days.

And then you get this GT-R. It is not very fashionable. It is a Nissan. It does not pretend to be anything else. It is not some badge-engineered, shared platform, aspirational "thing" that people choose based on brand or fashion.

These cars get on with the job and, considering they started work on this design years ago and the first R35 came out in 2008, it is amazing that other manufacturers have still only just started to catch up.

This is an engineers car. A geeks car. Unliked by many. Loved by some. And IMO it is very, very cool.

I want one badly. It is much more desirable than a 911 for me. After all, everyone gets a 911. I'd rather have the big Datsun.

What a hysterically peculiar post.

[Axel350Z]

and arent you the bastion of objectivity mister 964

FWIW I think hes fairly spot on

[plenty]

loveice said:

7.8 min ring time almost the same as P1 and 918 for 1/5-1/7 the price. If that isn't justification, what is?

The price difference between the NISMO and the MY14 car will buy a 2009 GT-R which will lap the 'Ring straight out of the box in 7.26. Or it will buy an awful lot of driving lessons.

[isaldiri]

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/11/nismo-rin...

Not sure if this one has been mentioned yet...but food for thought anyway...

[NomduJour]

isaldiri said:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/11/nismo-rin...

Not sure if this one has been mentioned yet...but food for thought anyway...

Even by the standards of the site, that is a particularly crap article. Is he trying to say it had over 800 bhp or not?

[J4CKO]

Would be interesting to pitch the factory special against a well modded one and see which comes out on top.

2.5 seconds to sixty is scarcely credible for a road car available to mere mortals, surely that must be the zenith, 1 tenth slower than the Super Veyron.

I wonder if we will ever see a production road car break the 2 sec barrier, i.e. one you can buy from a showroom and not Red Victor.

[loveice]

plenty said:

loveice said:

7.8 min ring time almost the same as P1 and 918 for 1/5-1/7 the price. If that isn't justification, what is?

The price difference between the NISMO and the MY14 car will buy a 2009 GT-R which will lap the 'Ring straight out of the box in 7.26. Or it will buy an awful lot of driving lessons.

That's true. But, 20 seconds around the ring (below 7.30 min) different been improved on the same car does cost that much difference. In fact, no other manufactures can beat that price difference.

[GS88]

toppstuff said:

I agree. Nissan are a perplexing company, so full of fantastic engineers when it comes to the GT-R programme. And you are right, they have a very, very different approach to the rest of the car industry. It is a cultural thing as well, they make no attempt to compete with the European brands in terms of marketing. They take a very different path.

I am personally pretty bored with some of the European brands. Cars from VAG, Porsche , all seem to be going in a different direction than I would like. Even Ferrari these days, are so wrapped up in their own image, full of ego and preening and posing, that it turns me right off. I am not the sort of person who wears a cashmere sweater over my shoulders and sunglasses on when I am indoors. And I am not a football player. Or a music producer. Most car companies seem to want to cater for that market and people who want to be in that market. There is too much of the footballer or Peter Andre about owning a Ferrari these days.

And then you get this GT-R. It is not very fashionable. It is a Nissan. It does not pretend to be anything else. It is not some badge-engineered, shared platform, aspirational "thing" that people choose based on brand or fashion.

These cars get on with the job and, considering they started work on this design years ago and the first R35 came out in 2008, it is amazing that other manufacturers have still only just started to catch up.

This is an engineers car. A geeks car. Unliked by many. Loved by some. And IMO it is very, very cool.

I want one badly. It is much more desirable than a 911 for me. After all, everyone gets a 911. I'd rather have the big Datsun.

+ 1

Best post I've read on the PH forum for a while.

[gofasterrosssco]

Dusty964 said:

toppstuff said:

foxhounduk said:

I love how the GTR is the epitomy of an underdog.

It doesn't care how it looks, or about it's badge, it just keeps its head down and focuses, getting better and improving every year, so much so that the other competitors look at it, green with pure envy and say, 'how is it doing this? how can it be so fast and so capable? at this price? how has it become so famous? how is it that the mere mention of it's name brings respect? how dare it? it shouldn't be this way.'

Oh but it is my friends. Oh but it is...

I agree. Nissan are a perplexing company, so full of fantastic engineers when it comes to the GT-R programme. And you are right, they have a very, very different approach to the rest of the car industry. It is a cultural thing as well, they make no attempt to compete with the European brands in terms of marketing. They take a very different path.

I am personally pretty bored with some of the European brands. Cars from VAG, Porsche , all seem to be going in a different direction than I would like. Even Ferrari these days, are so wrapped up in their own image, full of ego and preening and posing, that it turns me right off. I am not the sort of person who wears a cashmere sweater over my shoulders and sunglasses on when I am indoors. And I am not a football player. Or a music producer. Most car companies seem to want to cater for that market and people who want to be in that market. There is too much of the footballer or Peter Andre about owning a Ferrari these days.

And then you get this GT-R. It is not very fashionable. It is a Nissan. It does not pretend to be anything else. It is not some badge-engineered, shared platform, aspirational "thing" that people choose based on brand or fashion.

These cars get on with the job and, considering they started work on this design years ago and the first R35 came out in 2008, it is amazing that other manufacturers have still only just started to catch up.

This is an engineers car. A geeks car. Unliked by many. Loved by some. And IMO it is very, very cool.

I want one badly. It is much more desirable than a 911 for me. After all, everyone gets a 911. I'd rather have the big Datsun.

What a hysterically peculiar post.

He's also just about spot on for those of us who appreciate Japanese cars, and don't have Stuttgart-tinted aviators...

[Nedzilla]

Its too heavy,too ugly,too soulless and i have no desire to own one.

[DB89]

[tjlees]

jason61c said:

tjlees said:

A lovely car but ...

A jumped up Datsun for £120k - what happened to nissan punching above its weight at half the price?? Even the beetle is losing its way at £145k and 1.6t :-(

There are lots and lots of much better secondhand cars at this price - 2010 Gtr for around £40k and turbo s for £80k for instance

Do you know what a Datsun is? Its nice of you to pay a complement though.

A totally epic car in every way. If only they made it in Europe and charged £150k more i'm sure it'd sell by the container load.

Not with a low quality ps3 interior it wouldn't. If you want left field and relatively cheap - go british beef ..



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