UK petrol pumps
Discussion
GC8 said:
TREMAiNE said:
JagXJR said:
Actually the real reason (that they don't tell you) is because it can interfere with the garage equipment and give them all sots of issues (used to work for a company that supported some of the equipment).
Just easier for them to say is risk of fire as most will accept that as logical.
That is complete bullsJust easier for them to say is risk of fire as most will accept that as logical.
t. I've recently started working as a router for a fuel company and have had to do an ADR awareness course - phones can cause fires and explosions, I was shown a video of a chap who dropped his phone after spilling unleaded, the whole thing caught fire and exploded and needless to say he died. The cellular waves the phone lets off is enough to ignite fuel vapours, its not guaranteed to cause an explosions - but it can and has.
t.In mine it is quite feasible as I have watched a demonstration where a 100w 20-odd MHz signal amplifier was used to generate enough interference for a fuel pump to record virtually nothing.
Im fully aware that RF can start a fire as wll, although an illegal CB amplifier (again) is far, far more likely to be the cause here, too.
As for your mobile causing a fire from the cellular waves I doubt it.
The other day I decided to put in X litres rather than a specific Y pounds worth of fuel. After I stopped pumping and give it the obligatory shake to get any last drops out, amongst other double entendres, I went to put the nozzle back in the holder. Just as I set it down the counter jumped up by a penny! The cheek of the bds.
ds. Every time there is one of these threads there is some argument about mobile phones and petrol stations.
Mobile phones don't stop garage equipment working. Mobiles phones don't cause fires at petrol stations. These are simple facts.
How do I know this? Because they have 24 hour petrol stations with pay-at-pump and no staff dishing out silly messages about fires etc. I can go to my local Tesco right now, fill up any container/car/pocket with whatever fuel I want because after 7pm the staff leave. I can do this while having a mobile phone party if I like. If there was a real risk or danger then these stations simply wouldn't be allowed. I'm certain Tesco would rather not get sued to hell when a family get blown to pieces putting fuel in their people carrier while the wife and kids all happily mess about on their mobile phones.
Mobile phones don't stop garage equipment working. Mobiles phones don't cause fires at petrol stations. These are simple facts.
How do I know this? Because they have 24 hour petrol stations with pay-at-pump and no staff dishing out silly messages about fires etc. I can go to my local Tesco right now, fill up any container/car/pocket with whatever fuel I want because after 7pm the staff leave. I can do this while having a mobile phone party if I like. If there was a real risk or danger then these stations simply wouldn't be allowed. I'm certain Tesco would rather not get sued to hell when a family get blown to pieces putting fuel in their people carrier while the wife and kids all happily mess about on their mobile phones.
Sorry.
Was in a field on a mobile phone and it was bloody freezing.
The fact that it is generally frowned upon to use a mobile when dispensing fuel isn't a bad idea. It keeps peoples minds on the job.
The energy flow through the refilling hose is substantial.
If you are refuelling at 1 litre/second.
1 KG of gasoline is about 40 MJ energy.
1 litre = 750g gasoline
Energy Flow = 30MW
I used 1 litre/sec as a convenient number. Thats probably a little high. Realistically it's probably 10-20MW.
My original reply that was so cryptic initially said 10MW, I changed it to 1MW as I had a brain fart.
The usual issue in the US is that the punter starts to fill, hits the clicker and sits in the car, when the pump clicks off they get out again, this is where the static risk comes from, especially as the fuel tank has been expelling a mixture of fuel vapour and air around the filler nozzle during filling. Punter touches nozzle, spark, flash fire. Lots of vids of this, it's not pleasant.
Was in a field on a mobile phone and it was bloody freezing.
The fact that it is generally frowned upon to use a mobile when dispensing fuel isn't a bad idea. It keeps peoples minds on the job.
The energy flow through the refilling hose is substantial.
If you are refuelling at 1 litre/second.
1 KG of gasoline is about 40 MJ energy.
1 litre = 750g gasoline
Energy Flow = 30MW
I used 1 litre/sec as a convenient number. Thats probably a little high. Realistically it's probably 10-20MW.
My original reply that was so cryptic initially said 10MW, I changed it to 1MW as I had a brain fart.
The usual issue in the US is that the punter starts to fill, hits the clicker and sits in the car, when the pump clicks off they get out again, this is where the static risk comes from, especially as the fuel tank has been expelling a mixture of fuel vapour and air around the filler nozzle during filling. Punter touches nozzle, spark, flash fire. Lots of vids of this, it's not pleasant.
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