Successful facelifts
Discussion
trashbat said:
ou're horribly wrong about this, but at least it lets me ask a question: what are those lights on the bulge of the original? Sidelights? Port and starboard?
I'm not sure what I've got wrong: the second-generation Multipla did look a lot more mundane, but in truth I think the first-gen has charm. I like odd cars myself, and the original Multipla delivers on that. I'd say the facelift was successful, but I'd like to hear why you disagree as well. It's nowhere near as distinctive, I'll happily admit.Ferson said:
I'm not sure what I've got wrong: the second-generation Multipla did look a lot more mundane, but in truth I think the first-gen has charm. I like odd cars myself, and the original Multipla delivers on that. I'd say the facelift was successful, but I'd like to hear why you disagree as well. It's nowhere near as distinctive, I'll happily admit.
They at least had major interest in the first one, and you still see a few, but none of the facelift, which was entirely forgettable and a product failure AFAIK - hence not successful. However I think we actually agree, so I apologise steviegunn said:
Mastodon2 said:
That is misleading though, as you have shown the hotted up, bodykitted version as the "facelift".
This would have been a more honest picture to use:
Still a vast improvement (IMO) either way.This would have been a more honest picture to use:
jkh112 said:
N Dentressangle said:
The Ital was supposedly a lot more than just a facelifted Marina. The name indicated the complete redesign undertaken by an Italian design studio.The differences are so obvious I find it hard to believe anyone would think they were in any way related.
I remember going on the ferry to France in the same month the new Ital was launched. My family went in a BMW 2002 and the family who went with us went on their new Ital. At the ferry port they were mobbed by the British tourists looking at the new Ital, whilst the 2002 did not get a second glance.
For the relatively tiny cost of the facelift, it was very successful. The press regarded the Ital quite highly (suspension apart). Just a shame the suspension remained essentially unaltered for another 3 years before the front suspension was upgraded with telescopic dampers for the final year of the car's life (and the last year of production was at Longbridge as opposed to Cowley).
The Ital pictured also seems to have had other wheels photoshopped on to it?
I would happily have either ...
MagneticMeerkat said:
I own one of the latter Fiestas, it's a 3 door so the better looking version anyway, but all round a more aesthetically pleasing car than my Mum's old pre-facelift five door. The teardrop shaped headlights are much better realised than the old, flat lozenge shaped ones.
My first car was a Fiesta similar to the one in the picture. In so many ways, a st car, but ultimately still a great car overall.aw51 121565 said:
ItalDesign only helped to put the Ital into production, Harris Mann actually 'drew' the facelift. Also, a lot of hidden engineering went into stiffening the saloon body and soundproofing to all models (for two examples) as well as the design of the A-Plus 1300 engine for the Ital (then the Metro [and the Allegro] in 1.0 form as well) and later the Mini, Maestro & Montego 1.3s.
For the relatively tiny cost of the facelift, it was very successful. The press regarded the Ital quite highly (suspension apart). Just a shame the suspension remained essentially unaltered for another 3 years before the front suspension was upgraded with telescopic dampers for the final year of the car's life (and the last year of production was at Longbridge as opposed to Cowley).
The Ital pictured also seems to have had other wheels photoshopped on to it?
I would happily have either ...
Very interesting about the input from ItalDesign and Harris Mann as I recall that at the time it was the input from the former which was played up in the advertising. For the relatively tiny cost of the facelift, it was very successful. The press regarded the Ital quite highly (suspension apart). Just a shame the suspension remained essentially unaltered for another 3 years before the front suspension was upgraded with telescopic dampers for the final year of the car's life (and the last year of production was at Longbridge as opposed to Cowley).
The Ital pictured also seems to have had other wheels photoshopped on to it?
I would happily have either ...
I would prefer a 2002.
calibrax said:
hondansx said:
Perhaps a little off the wall, but i actually think, given the budget constraints, Rover did bloody well with the 75 facelift. Still handsome to this day in my eyes!
I agree, the Rover 75 facelift is a big improvement. The MG ZT facelift however looked worse than the original.Original
Facelift
Rover 75 facelift is better
BUT
MG mk1 is better looking than the face lift version
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